Clone questions

J.HANDS

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clones of clones are no better nor any worse than the mother plant. you get the same trends passed on
eassentially you could have a clone of aclone of a clone of a clone
 

DWARD99

Member
I want to make a 2 chamber stealth grow box out of probably a nightstand. i only need to grow for myself (smoke about an oz a month) so i was thinking in the flowering chamber a two pot DWC reservoir and a HPS light while also using a short stain and the SOG tactic. Was looking for advice on an optimal set up similar to this with STEALTH BEING THE KEY. Also if can i take clones off of the two plants im flowering instead of a mother and when would be the best time to take the cuttings?
 
I have 3 plants growing I stole the seeds from my old roommate who use to smoke all my weed and I was wondering if you could clone them outside?
 

mr sunshine

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Yes u can clone bud outside .buy a tray with a humidity dome cut ur clones with a razor blade at a90 degree angle u dont have to but i always split the stem. Then use clonex or some cloning solution.stick in Rockwell cubes mist plants put dome over tray do not remove for 5 days straight except when ur gunna re water cubes after 5th day let it breath every once in a while by removing dome it shuld take a few weeks the more roots the better chance the clone has at being a reproductive plant.
 

Raeofsun13

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I also wanted to offer this about cloning, if you clone from a mom that has deficiencies, those deficiencies will be passed along to the clone. So make sure you plant is healthy and doesn't have any deficiencies. At least that is what I have read and I don't remember who said it but yes the bottom growth has more growth hormones naturally, compared to the top branches. The lower branches will be easier to get to take. Once you find a system that works, stick too it. We had issues with cloning because we changed too many variables all at once and then couldn't identify where the issues were. For instance we tried a different soil and hormone medium, so that is my word of advice. Good luck and happy cloning!
 

mr sunshine

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You are very welcome sir! Forgot to add ,place the tray in a shady spot indirect sunlight is what ur looking for!
 

Smudga

Active Member
An internode is the place on the stem where the leaf (plus its stem)
intersect the main stem.

When taking a cutting you must cut it long enough to have at least one
trimmed internode under the medium. Try to take a cutting that is at least 3 inches long. I visualize where to cut first.

I'll cut the branch about a half inch below the node I plan on
being below the surface of the medium (more than one node can be under
the medium surface).

Once the cut has been made, I trim off all leaves and branches except the top two fan leaves and the growing tip of the branch. This will leave a nice stem for planting.

Introduction
Most folks (including me) take only main growing tips as cuttings, but occasions arise when you want to preserve the maximum number of growing tips on the mother plant. Sometimes it is better to remove only one complete branch and make it into multiple clones. Occasionally, while training a plant, you will break off a branch. Here's a way to turn that branch into multiple clones.

Just as an aside, I discovered this technique when my knife slipped, and I cut across a node instead of trimming off the leaf and secondary growing tip at that node. I was surprised when the bottom half rooted faster than the main growing tip.

According to several sources, cuttings taken from below the main growing tip will usually root faster (and in my observation better) due to lower nitrogen levels and higher carbohydrate levels. I also find the stiffer woody stems from lower on a branch easier to deal with than soft green ones near the tip.

The smaller secondary growing tips will take a bit longer to develop into full fledged plants, but they will have a great set of roots to do it with.

Technique
Cut off the main growing tip by making a 45 degree cut through the main stem just above a node and prepare it as you normally would.

Cut up the remainder of the branch by making a succession of cuts through the nodes at 45 degree angles. You will end up with a bunch of short stems with a 45 degree cut at the top and the bottom, and a leaf and growing tip near the upper edge of the top cut.





If the cutting is too long to fit entirely inside your cloning medium, trim the bottom end of the cutting.






Holding the cutting by the leaf stem (petiole), scrape away some of the outer layer of the stem tissue to expose some phloem (the white tissue underneath). Dip the whole stem into your cloning gel or rooting hormone, be sure to cover both the bottom and the top cuts. Avoid getting any on the growing tip.



Insert the stem into the cloning medium, you may need to open up the hole in the rockwool or latex plug a bit first.










Use a sterile tool (a chopstick, q-tip stem, etc) to push on the top of the stem to push it inside the cloning medium. The leaf may tilt up as the stem goes inside the medium.
Fucking Brilliant I've been growing since I was a kid in the ?80s.ive allways had trouble with clones it's hit n miss I've read many blurb on clones but have never found such an easy read n I think I've spotted a flaw I've been doing .you have a talent n thanks for sharing it. Smudga
 

kupihea

Well-Known Member
This is a method that was passed on to me by an old grower friend. I have found this method to work with the most difficult and stubborn cuttings, including the strains that are labeled "difficult to clone".

Materials Needed



terrarium/old fishtank (I picked this one up at a garage sale for $0.25)
waterbed heater w/thermostat (same garage sale, $2.00)
fluorescent light
peat pellets
spray bottle
saran wrap (not shown)

Optional:
No-Damp
2x4's, plywood, light switch

Hang light to the desiered area, a 20 watt is reccomended for this project.
Now that my light is hung and ready, the next step is to lay out the waterbed heating pad. The pad is laid out so that the terrarium will be sitting directly ontop of it.



The thermostat is placed near by for easy access, and it is set at 80deg F for most cuttings. If rooting tropical varieties, I would suggest a setting nearer 90deg F.



The next step is preparation of the terrarium. I took mine down to the laundry sink and scrubbed it clean using detergent. I would not recommend using bleach, for bleach leaves a residue toxic to your plants. Once it is thoroughly cleaned, and dry, fill the bottom two inches with soil. I prefer to use Sunshine Mix #4. Once complete, place the terrarium ontop of the heating pad and beneath the light.



I mix the required amount of No-Damp into the water, before moistening the soil within the terrarium. Dampen the soil, do not leave it dry and do not make it wet. This will keep the peat pellet at the correct moisture.



Now is time to take your freshly cut clones and place them into peat pellets which have been expanded. The trick here is to bury the pellets most of the way into the soil, this will keep the pellets moist, warm, and will allow the roots to grow into the soil.

The pellet on the right is sitting ontop of the soil, the pellet on the left is correctly buried into the soil.



Once you have all the pellets in place, you are ready to place the temperature probe from the waterbed heating pad. I like to place the probe just above the soil, but not touching the soil, terrarium, or any plants and pellets. This will regulate the temperature within the terrarium to keep your new cuttings happy.



Mix up a spray bottle of cold water and the appropriate amount of No-Damp. Give the plants, the soil, and the inside walls of the terrarium a good misting. Mist everything without making the water bead and runoff.



Cover the terrarium with saran wrap to maintain humidity and temperature. Ensure to leave a one inch gap for fresh air.



Now you are all set to get started. Plug everything in, turn on your light and waterbed heating pad. The pad will warm your environment to optimum temperatures, plus you have just made a high humidity environment for your plants to root.
Now, just watch it go. There is really nothing more to do, the pellets will moisturize themselves from the soil and the temperature will remain the same. Check it daily, and give the inside of the terrarium a light misting, if needed. As long as there is still moisture on the terrarium glass, misting is not needed.



As long as your cloning methods are solid, in seven to ten days you will have roots running through the soil. The cutting pictured is shown at day ten, and some roots had to be broken to remove it from the soil.

Thanks so much. This appears to be a great system and I am going to try it. I already have a heating pad that came with a germinating tray I bought years ago - a jiffy pot sort of thing with a clear conner to create humidity. I should be able to replace the cover with a larger container. Thanks again!
 

Smudga

Active Member
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Smudga

Active Member
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newGrows

Active Member
Holding the cutting by the leaf stem (petiole), scrape away some of the outer layer of the stem tissue to expose some phloem (the white tissue underneath). Dip the whole stem into your cloning gel or rooting hormone, be sure to cover both the bottom and the top cuts. Avoid getting any on the growing tip.
So you are saying to cover the bottom and top cuts of the lower parts of the branch in rooting gel?
1 leaf per clone enough?
What's the success rate of the clones that don't have an actual growth tip?
 

Dannabis!

Active Member
Ok my question is this:

Can i clone successfully with out a humidity dome?

Querkle and Tange are ready to cut..
 
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