Cleaning Bongs With Alcohol

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d.s.m. said:
That's simply not true.
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It is 100% true. The government isn't directly mixing chemicals - but government taxes are what makes it poison.

"Denatured alcohol provides a solution to permit legitimate use and manufacture of ethanol, whereby cheap ethanol can be made available for non-consumption use without the risk of it being converted for consumption. The process creates a modified ethanol that is not suitable for drinking, but is otherwise similar to ethanol for most purposes. As a result there is no duty on denatured alcohol in most countries, making it considerably cheaper than pure ethanol. Consequently, its composition is tightly defined by government regulations which vary between countries. In instances where absolutely pure ethanol is needed at a reasonable non-consumption-taxed price (for example, at chemical research laboratories), tight security procedures are required to eliminate the possibility of conversion for human consumption — specifically, tracking the purchase and distribution of the alcohol and ensuring compliance of workers who handle the pure ethanol."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol

"It is prepared from a special denatured alcohol solution and contains 97.5-100% by volume of pure, concentrated ethanol (ethyl alcohol)[1]."

"Denatured alcohol is ethanol that has additives to make it toxic, unpalatable, or otherwise undrinkable."
 
ethanol ≠ isopropyl alcohol

Ethanol (everclear) is denatured with just enough methanol to avoid paying taxes.

How will the governments denature cannabis?
 
hmm, I havent had this experience with glass...I use 99% ISO and kosher salt, after the tars are removed and the glass is sparkling I rinse it with RO.... and dry it with a paper towel. It tastes nice and clean, no alcohol taste what so ever. bongsmilie

CK
 
tnrtinr said:
It is 100% true. The government isn't directly mixing chemicals - but government taxes are what makes it poison.

"Denatured alcohol provides a solution to permit legitimate use and manufacture of ethanol, whereby cheap ethanol can be made available for non-consumption use without the risk of it being converted for consumption. The process creates a modified ethanol that is not suitable for drinking, but is otherwise similar to ethanol for most purposes. As a result there is no duty on denatured alcohol in most countries, making it considerably cheaper than pure ethanol. Consequently, its composition is tightly defined by government regulations which vary between countries. In instances where absolutely pure ethanol is needed at a reasonable non-consumption-taxed price (for example, at chemical research laboratories), tight security procedures are required to eliminate the possibility of conversion for human consumption — specifically, tracking the purchase and distribution of the alcohol and ensuring compliance of workers who handle the pure ethanol."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol

"It is prepared from a special denatured alcohol solution and contains 97.5-100% by volume of pure, concentrated ethanol (ethyl alcohol)[1]."

"Denatured alcohol is ethanol that has additives to make it toxic, unpalatable, or otherwise undrinkable."
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Dude, you really ought to read the wikipedia article that you posted a link to.

Here's a quote:

"Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol, USP / B.P. contains 68-99% of isopropanol (isopropyl alcohol) by volume, the remainder consisting of water, with or without color additives, suitable stabilizers, and perfume oils. Isopropyl alcohol is oxidized by the liver into acetone. Symptoms of isopropyl alcohol poisoning include flushing, headache, dizziness, CNS depression, nausea, vomiting, anesthesia, and coma."

So, it seems that isopropyl alcohol is poisonous to drink because, well, it just is. No additives needed.

It's also a good clean solvent that evaporates completely.
 
They do add denatonium to rubbing alcohol to make it unbearable to drink (per the gov't) and there in no other reason for it being in there, and yeah rubbing alcohol is poisonous.....JR
 
Don't EVER Drink Rubbing (isopropyl) Alcohol!!!

The amount of acetone your body would make from ingested residual alcohol is negligible.

Some prefer to keep their pieces sticky.
 
The only point I was trying to make was if it's poisonous to drink ( I think we all agree with that now) Do you want to be inhaling it accidentally if you leave some residue in the bong. I don't and have not ever used a harsh chemical to clean any of my paraphernalia. That's all....JR
 
d.s.m. said:
Dude, you really ought to read the wikipedia article that you posted a link to.

Here's a quote:

"Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol, USP / B.P. contains 68-99% of isopropanol (isopropyl alcohol) by volume, the remainder consisting of water, with or without color additives, suitable stabilizers, and perfume oils. Isopropyl alcohol is oxidized by the liver into acetone. Symptoms of isopropyl alcohol poisoning include flushing, headache, dizziness, CNS depression, nausea, vomiting, anesthesia, and coma."

So, it seems that isopropyl alcohol is poisonous to drink because, well, it just is. No additives needed.

It's also a good clean solvent that evaporates completely.
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You outta read the entire link, buddy. Ethanol (ethyl alcohol) is Isopropryl's main ingredient and it IS NOT POISONOUS unless you drink in excess and get alcohol poisoning - it is the same EXACT stuff that is in liquor stores and has been used as a intoxicant since BEFORE written history. Rubbing alcohol (per my original post) is denatured (made poisonous / smell and taste bad so that it cannot be used as a substitute for liquor or beer) - it is a process that differentiates it from the stuff that is sold in stores SOLELY BECAUSE OF TAX REVENUE. They make Ethanol poison via additives. It is poison because we make it that way.

Legislation

In the United States, rubbing alcohol, USP and all preparations coming under the classification of Rubbing Alcohols must be manufactured in accordance with the requirements of the US Treasury Department, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, using Formula 23-H (8 parts by volume of acetone, 1.5 parts by volume of methyl isobutyl ketone, and 100 parts by volume of ethyl alcohol). It contains 97.5-100% by volume of absolute ethyl alcohol, the rest consists of water and the denaturants, with or without color additives, and perfume oils. Rubbing Alcohol contains in each 100 mL not less than 355 mg of sucrose octaacetate or not less than 1.40 mg of denatonium benzoate. The preparation may be colored with one or more color additives. A suitable stabilizer may also be added.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol#cite_note-5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol#cite_note-5

 
Rubbing alcohol is used to disinfect, to bring down fever and to soothe skin. Most rubbing alcohol is made of 70 percent isopropyl alcohol in water. Isopropyl isn't the same type of alcohol that is in alcoholic beverages---ethanol--- although sometimes ethanol is an ingredient in rubbing alcohol. When ethanol is an ingredient it will have been denatured. Denaturing is adding poisonous and bad-tasting ingredients, and it is done specifically to prevent people from drinking the alcohol. Often the poisonous ingredient added is methanol, which can cause blindness. Isopropyl is also found in mouthwashes and skin lotions. Isopropyl is very intoxicating. Because it is easily available and has no purchasing restrictions, it is sometimes used as a substitute for ethanol alcohol.
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The only rubbing alcohol I've ever seen is Isopropyl.
 
d.s.m. said:
The only rubbing alcohol I've ever seen is Isopropyl.
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me too. Research continues.

:dunce:

The last suggested use for rubbing alcohol on the wiki page is Marijuana tar residue ("resin") dissolves in alcohol, and rubbing alcohol is commonly used to clean smoking paraphernalia.

lol. So it's pretty important, huh!
I clean with iso and salt. I like clean shiny nonsticky glass!
 
This is kinda off topic but I had this glass pipe that I had not cleaned in forever and dropped it numerous times and then i decided to clean it (in iso)... turns out the risen was holding it together cause it completely shattered the next day!!
 
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