thenotsoesoteric

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Looked the lvtk buds over that I just harvested that got hit with a little tangerine power pollen and found at least 11-12 nice brown beans and the pale looking ones look like they have a chance of popping too. At least I know I've bought seeds that looked just as pale, most notably being hazeman's grapes 13, and they've popped so we'll see.

Stoked so far though because I know the lvtk at least makes nice looking beans. Shucking the beans is gonna be a pain in the arse though, these seeds are glued into the husk for the most part. Even the ones bursting out of the husk are stuck in there nicely too.
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jigfresh

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Being an actual case you had right to discovery he should have made them produce that weight in court ? This is the time to think not react.blessing to you
If you mean me, things don't work like that here in spain. I was arrested over 2 years ago, probably going to wait another year for trial. The evidence was destroyed long long ago.

No juries here. No speedy trial (obviously). No police in court to testify. Just me, the expert I'll hire, my lawyer and the prosecutor. Trial should last an hour or two. Judge has all deciding power. Appeals go to a panel of 3 judges. If guilty people get a few days to get things in order before going away. No jails here, just prison. No parole or early release. However under 2 years gets a suspended sentence.

Oh and about the expert. Here they only allow court approved experts. There are only 2 in all of spain.

Thankfully bail here is free.

My suggested sentence is 3 - 4.5 years and 30,000 € fine. Good times learning the inner workings of a foreign legal system.
 

Og grumble

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Them was freebies at southern cross..
He is more than likely out.
Fa sho. I see you got some good looking shit on strainly I've been thinking about grabbing some. Hows that goofy grape?
If you mean me, things don't work like that here in spain. I was arrested over 2 years ago, probably going to wait another year for trial. The evidence was destroyed long long ago.

No juries here. No speedy trial (obviously). No police in court to testify. Just me, the expert I'll hire, my lawyer and the prosecutor. Trial should last an hour or two. Judge has all deciding power. Appeals go to a panel of 3 judges. If guilty people get a few days to get things in order before going away. No jails here, just prison. No parole or early release. However under 2 years gets a suspended sentence.

Oh and about the expert. Here they only allow court approved experts. There are only 2 in all of spain.

Thankfully bail here is free.

My suggested sentence is 3 - 4.5 years and 30,000 € fine. Good times learning the inner workings of a foreign legal system.
So shitty. Im really sorry man that is such bullshit. Idk much about Spain, but if its even half as corrupt and backwards as America, you need to get your stacks up. Innocent or guilty, money is what wins cases.
 

genuity

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Fa sho. I see you got some good looking shit on strainly I've been thinking about grabbing some. Hows that goofy grape?

So shitty. Im really sorry man that is such bullshit. Idk much about Spain, but if its even half as corrupt and backwards as America, you need to get your stacks up. Innocent or guilty, money is what wins cases.
Goofy grape has had some good reports,I liked it for sure...
 

SSGrower

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GMO x Swayze 12/12 from seed recap
Got wet on or around 8/5/18
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By 11/24 all 5 had been chopped.

Will give remaining seeds a 3 week veg along with the remaining texas butter x swayze (2 of 2 were boys on the 1st try) starting sometime in the new year. Thanks to @genuity for allowing me to test these and the Graveyard Whisperer as well. Gimme a sec to pull a few rips of it and I'll post some more pics of it.
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Amos Otis

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GMO x Swayze 12/12 from seed recap
Got wet on or around 8/5/18
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By 11/24 all 5 had been chopped.

Will give remaining seeds a 3 week veg along with the remaining texas butter x swayze (2 of 2 were boys on the 1st try) starting sometime in the new year. Thanks to @genuity for allowing me to test these and the Graveyard Whisperer as well. Gimme a sec to pull a few rips of it and I'll post some more pics of it.
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Is the yield worth the time you spent? Are the finished buds 'mature' finished buds? I don't even know if it's a thing, but other than yield, do you lose any quality by going straight to 12/12 ? Only asking 'cause I don't know.
 

Bodyne

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Is the yield worth the time you spent? Are the finished buds 'mature' finished buds? I don't even know if it's a thing, but other than yield, do you lose any quality by going straight to 12/12 ? Only asking 'cause I don't know.
did it with the copper chem, 12/12 from seedling and yes the buds were mature, wasn't sure I lost anything in yield and the plant actually seemed to look better than all stretched out in a 2 gal pot, etc JME I'd do it on any sat dom, not sure bout indica dom, the la pure affie I did that way stretched more than I thought it would've but again, didn't deminish from quality or anything I could tell. It actually made it where there was no need to clean the lowers like you have to do sometimes with other strains JME. Best way to control tall bitches in the tent.imho Kinda stupid for me to say no effect on yield, there obviously was some, but the upside I thought was worth it.
 
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Amos Otis

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did it with the copper chem, 12/12 from seedling and yes the buds were mature, wasn't sure I lost anything in yield and the plant actually seemed to look better than all stretched out in a 2 gal pot, etc JME I'd do it on any sat dom, not sure bout indica dom, the la pure affie I did that way stretched more than I thought it would've but again, didn't deminish from quality or anything I could tell. It actually made it where there was no need to clean the lowers like you have to do sometimes with other strains JME. Best way to control tall bitches in the tent.imho
well, well......:idea:
 

blowincherrypie

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did it with the copper chem, 12/12 from seedling and yes the buds were mature, wasn't sure I lost anything in yield and the plant actually seemed to look better than all stretched out in a 2 gal pot, etc JME I'd do it on any sat dom, not sure bout indica dom, the la pure affie I did that way stretched more than I thought it would've but again, didn't deminish from quality or anything I could tell. It actually made it where there was no need to clean the lowers like you have to do sometimes with other strains JME. Best way to control tall bitches in the tent.imho
Any idea on the time window for taking clones from 12/12?
 

CoB_nUt

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Do you mean when to put clones into 12/12? If so, when they are fully rooted and have the shape you want. Or do you mean taking cutting from a flowering plant, ie monstorcropping? If so, no there isn't. The longer they are in flower, the longer they will take to root. I've recently taken cuttings @ my 45th day defoil mark. They rooted in 13 days, up from my usual 5-10 days with clones not taken from flowering gals.
Hope I understood your question.
 

blowincherrypie

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Do you mean when to put clones into 12/12? If so, when they are fully rooted and have the shape you want. Or do you mean taking cutting from a flowering plant, ie monstorcropping? If so, no there isn't. The longer they are in flower, the longer they will take to root. I've recently taken cuttings @ my 45th day defoil mark. They rooted in 13 days, up from my usual 5-10 days with clones not taken from flowering gals.
Hope I understood your question.
thx for takin the time 2 answer.. I was wondering if there's a good point, or time window, that you can take clones from the 12/12 seed plants before they're actually flowering.. or would it be better to reveg winners?
 

macsnax

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thx for takin the time 2 answer.. I was wondering if there's a good point, or time window, that you can take clones from the 12/12 seed plants before they're actually flowering.. or would it be better to reveg winners?
I believe of if you take clones up to about 2_3 weeks into flower they root faster than a clone from veg because of hormone's. It's not something I do, but I've seen it mentioned a few times around here.
 

CoB_nUt

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thx for takin the time 2 answer.. I was wondering if there's a good point, or time window, that you can take clones from the 12/12 seed plants before they're actually flowering.. or would it be better to reveg winners?
Ahh my bad, Im in the same predicament. I have some double dipped strawberries That either need to be up potted and flowered. Not sure if I should top for clones now, give 'em a week then flip them. Or, wait,run em natural and reveg.
I like to run new beans au natural to get a feel for the genetics.
 
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