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st0wandgrow

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Oh, and as for the testosterone concern, it doesn't affect it negatively. All they do is tie your sperm shooters off so they don't get out. Your body reabsorbs them. The only thing I noticed was that my money shot is about the size of a quarter (otherwise, I would have made my own osterich milk art on Shitbaggy's sister's pic). In my 40's still strong like bull.

It's really a quick and pretty much painless procedure. Have a jock strap and bag of frozen peas ready at the house.
I went with the reversable one. Just a couple plastic clamps on the tubes.

Only downside is that it now feels like I've got 2 pieces of legos in my nutsack. Takes some getting used to. :shock:
 

Unclebaldrick

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She is the one that deserves better than you. You should get a good life insurance policy on yourself, make your kid the beneficiary, and then accidentally die.
No dude. Get one that permits suicide. A lot of them do after a year or so. That way there is no chance that the insurance company can get out of paying.
 

panhead

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why does anyone ? I was attracted to her at one stage obviously. where are all these relationships that last an entire lifetime? 6 years is a long fkn time, way long enough to realise you could and should be doing better. is it shallow, maybe.it's nature, it's evolution. we are hardwired to desire attractive mates. If you lose an attraction the urge is to replace it , but the moral bs that society has invented makes it a very hard thing to do
Society invented morals because without them we would be animals , being shallow & self absorbed isnt evolution or nature , its childish , immature , loathsome & a unrealistic view of life .

I dont see why your all fuked up over this & cant see the bigger picture , in your initial post its all about how unattracted YOU are to her , how YOU feel YOU can do better , how YOU think your missing out ect ect ect , maybe if you spent more time being a better husband vs lusting after what YOU dont have things would be better for you .

Nothing but a brief mention of your 4 yr old child , have you given any thought to the other 2 people stuck in this right along with you ?

Here's some cons you didnt list .

1 Shitting on a woman who adores you ?
2 Leaving your child fatherless , weekend parenting is a fart in the wind ,especially when new super hot girlfriend hates your kid ?
3 The next 20 guys your kid's gonna call daddy or uncle bob ?
4 Kids from broken homes are less likely to succeed in life ?
5 What if your wife remarries & her new husband is a kick ass father , loves her & your child enough to adopt him or her ?

Why ruin lives when its you that has the problem , ive been married to the same woman for 40 yrs & yes i got tired of the pussy but i dealt with it like a man , life isnt supposed to be perfect at all times , i dont think she's became less attractive at all , its your self.centered thoughts making you ugly inside .

I'd be willing to bet cash money your woman is closer to an 8 or 9 than the low 6 you made her out to be , your seeing her in a different way than before , your seeing the mom , your seeing the cook , your seeing the cleaning lady , you listed those as pro's in your reasons.
From the way you wrote your 1st post it sounds like you dont treat the mother of your child with much respect but she still worships you , put the shoe on the other foot & you'll get a sneak peak at how you will be treated once you leave your family looking for the hottest girl you can get .

After she's spent your last penny & your working overtime ya really think she's gonna be waiting at the door with a kiss & a cold beer ? You'll end up with a shallow ass bitch who stomps on your feelings once it isnt fun for her 24/7 & she see's the real you , you'll be the one doing all the crying & pleading , meanwhile she's asking her friends how to dump the needy not so handsome sissy she's stuck with , she will loose all respect for you once you start pleading & blubbering when she wants to ditch you because she's the shallow cunt your being twords your family .

Monogomy isnt a western ideal its world wide & in many countries deadly serious , ive been married to the same non western woman for 40 yrs & there were a few yrs where i got tired of being with the same woman , but i didnt shit on her , crush her feelings & destroy our childrens lives to fulfill my desires , i dealt with it like a man who thinks about family 1st & personal desire last .

Im in my 60's now & looking back i wouldnt change a thing , i have 3 awesome sons ( lost eldest in Iraq god bless him ) & i was a part of everything they did growing up into men , i was there to teach them honor , dignity , honesty , truth , loyalty ,sacrifice , what love is & how to give & recieve love , all the things good men know & all the things you'll never be able to teach your child , weekend parents have zero positive influence on a childs life & end up causing more harm than good by insisting the woman still submit to their desires , demanding the child be available on weekends for " Visitation " rights , so now you'll be the visitor who ruins the kids chance of spending weekends with friends playing & learning how to interact with his/her peer group , you'll never be a good role model to the child .

IMO you should be on your knee's kissing her ass for putting up with the self centered , selfish & childish drama you put her thru , the fear of loosing her family SHE ADORES ,the fear of raising a fatherless child , and for making her live her life as if she's done something to be such a bad mother & wife where you'd dump her .

Ive seen this shit happen several times in my 62 yrs of life & its allways the same , the next guy she marries will adore her & be the man of her dreams while being a great father to the child you walked away from , saying you can still be part of the kids life while you build a new life without the child is a bullshit cop out , its shit loosers say to excuse their unexcusable actions .

Wake up & be the husband & father you promised to be when you found out you were gonna be a father , before she tires of you & replaces you with a man who lives up to her expectations of what a husband & father should be .
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
Society invented morals because without them we would be animals , being shallow & self absorbed isnt evolution or nature , its childish , immature , loathsome & a unrealistic view of life .

I dont see why your all fuked up over this & cant see the bigger picture , in your initial post its all about how unattracted YOU are to her , how YOU feel YOU can do better , how YOU think your missing out ect ect ect , maybe if you spent more time being a better husband vs lusting after what YOU dont have things would be better for you .

Nothing but a brief mention of your 4 yr old child , have you given any thought to the other 2 people stuck in this right along with you ?

Here's some cons you didnt list .

1 Shitting on a woman who adores you ?
2 Leaving your child fatherless , weekend parenting is a fart in the wind ,especially when new super hot girlfriend hates your kid ?
3 The next 20 guys your kid's gonna call daddy or uncle bob ?
4 Kids from broken homes are less likely to succeed in life ?
5 What if your wife remarries & her new husband is a kick ass father , loves her & your child enough to adopt him or her ?

Why ruin lives when its you that has the problem , ive been married to the same woman for 40 yrs & yes i got tired of the pussy but i dealt with it like a man , life isnt supposed to be perfect at all times , i dont think she's became less attractive at all , its your self.centered thoughts making you ugly inside .

I'd be willing to bet cash money your woman is closer to an 8 or 9 than the low 6 you made her out to be , your seeing her in a different way than before , your seeing the mom , your seeing the cook , your seeing the cleaning lady , you listed those as pro's in your reasons.
From the way you wrote your 1st post it sounds like you dont treat the mother of your child with much respect but she still worships you , put the shoe on the other foot & you'll get a sneak peak at how you will be treated once you leave your family looking for the hottest girl you can get .

After she's spent your last penny & your working overtime ya really think she's gonna be waiting at the door with a kiss & a cold beer ? You'll end up with a shallow ass bitch who stomps on your feelings once it isnt fun for her 24/7 & she see's the real you , you'll be the one doing all the crying & pleading , meanwhile she's asking her friends how to dump the needy not so handsome sissy she's stuck with , she will loose all respect for you once you start pleading & blubbering when she wants to ditch you because she's the shallow cunt your being twords your family .

Monogomy isnt a western ideal its world wide & in many countries deadly serious , ive been married to the same non western woman for 40 yrs & there were a few yrs where i got tired of being with the same woman , but i didnt shit on her , crush her feelings & destroy our childrens lives to fulfill my desires , i dealt with it like a man who thinks about family 1st & personal desire last .

Im in my 60's now & looking back i wouldnt change a thing , i have 3 awesome sons ( lost eldest in Iraq god bless him ) & i was a part of everything they did growing up into men , i was there to teach them honor , dignity , honesty , truth , loyalty ,sacrifice , what love is & how to give & recieve love , all the things good men know & all the things you'll never be able to teach your child , weekend parents have zero positive influence on a childs life & end up causing more harm than good by insisting the woman still submit to their desires , demanding the child be available on weekends for " Visitation " rights , so now you'll be the visitor who ruins the kids chance of spending weekends with friends playing & learning how to interact with his/her peer group , you'll never be a good role model to the child .

IMO you should be on your knee's kissing her ass for putting up with the self centered , selfish & childish drama you put her thru , the fear of loosing her family SHE ADORES ,the fear of raising a fatherless child , and for making her live her life as if she's done something to be such a bad mother & wife where you'd dump her .

Ive seen this shit happen several times in my 62 yrs of life & its allways the same , the next guy she marries will adore her & be the man of her dreams while being a great father to the child you walked away from , saying you can still be part of the kids life while you build a new life without the child is a bullshit cop out , its shit loosers say to excuse their unexcusable actions .

Wake up & be the husband & father you promised to be when you found out you were gonna be a father , before she tires of you & replaces you with a man who lives up to her expectations of what a husband & father should be .

That's a hell of a good post panhead! I agree with everything you said, but I still don't think it's a good idea for him to stay with her. He clearly doesn't value her as a person, and no matter how much lipstick he puts on it she will pick up on his lack of love towards her and be miserable in the process. His reasons for leaving are shallow and selfish, but if it's not there it's not there. I truly believe that this girl will be better off without him and will one day look back on this and be thankful that he moved on.

edit: Sorry to hear about your son. As a father I can't imagine going through that
 

ClaytonBigsby

Well-Known Member
That's a hell of a good post panhead! I agree with everything you said, but I still don't think it's a good idea for him to stay with her. He clearly doesn't value her as a person, and no matter how much lipstick he puts on it she will pick up on his lack of love towards her and be miserable in the process. His reasons for leaving are shallow and selfish, but if it's not there it's not there. I truly believe that this girl will be better off without him and will one day look back on this and be thankful that he moved on.

edit: Sorry to hear about your son. As a father I can't imagine going through that

 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
Society invented morals because without them we would be animals , being shallow & self absorbed isnt evolution or nature , its childish , immature , loathsome & a unrealistic view of life .

I dont see why your all fuked up over this & cant see the bigger picture , in your initial post its all about how unattracted YOU are to her , how YOU feel YOU can do better , how YOU think your missing out ect ect ect , maybe if you spent more time being a better husband vs lusting after what YOU dont have things would be better for you .

Nothing but a brief mention of your 4 yr old child , have you given any thought to the other 2 people stuck in this right along with you ?

Here's some cons you didnt list .

1 Shitting on a woman who adores you ?
2 Leaving your child fatherless , weekend parenting is a fart in the wind ,especially when new super hot girlfriend hates your kid ?
3 The next 20 guys your kid's gonna call daddy or uncle bob ?
4 Kids from broken homes are less likely to succeed in life ?
5 What if your wife remarries & her new husband is a kick ass father , loves her & your child enough to adopt him or her ?

Why ruin lives when its you that has the problem , ive been married to the same woman for 40 yrs & yes i got tired of the pussy but i dealt with it like a man , life isnt supposed to be perfect at all times , i dont think she's became less attractive at all , its your self.centered thoughts making you ugly inside .

I'd be willing to bet cash money your woman is closer to an 8 or 9 than the low 6 you made her out to be , your seeing her in a different way than before , your seeing the mom , your seeing the cook , your seeing the cleaning lady , you listed those as pro's in your reasons.
From the way you wrote your 1st post it sounds like you dont treat the mother of your child with much respect but she still worships you , put the shoe on the other foot & you'll get a sneak peak at how you will be treated once you leave your family looking for the hottest girl you can get .

After she's spent your last penny & your working overtime ya really think she's gonna be waiting at the door with a kiss & a cold beer ? You'll end up with a shallow ass bitch who stomps on your feelings once it isnt fun for her 24/7 & she see's the real you , you'll be the one doing all the crying & pleading , meanwhile she's asking her friends how to dump the needy not so handsome sissy she's stuck with , she will loose all respect for you once you start pleading & blubbering when she wants to ditch you because she's the shallow cunt your being twords your family .

Monogomy isnt a western ideal its world wide & in many countries deadly serious , ive been married to the same non western woman for 40 yrs & there were a few yrs where i got tired of being with the same woman , but i didnt shit on her , crush her feelings & destroy our childrens lives to fulfill my desires , i dealt with it like a man who thinks about family 1st & personal desire last .

Im in my 60's now & looking back i wouldnt change a thing , i have 3 awesome sons ( lost eldest in Iraq god bless him ) & i was a part of everything they did growing up into men , i was there to teach them honor , dignity , honesty , truth , loyalty ,sacrifice , what love is & how to give & recieve love , all the things good men know & all the things you'll never be able to teach your child , weekend parents have zero positive influence on a childs life & end up causing more harm than good by insisting the woman still submit to their desires , demanding the child be available on weekends for " Visitation " rights , so now you'll be the visitor who ruins the kids chance of spending weekends with friends playing & learning how to interact with his/her peer group , you'll never be a good role model to the child .

IMO you should be on your knee's kissing her ass for putting up with the self centered , selfish & childish drama you put her thru , the fear of loosing her family SHE ADORES ,the fear of raising a fatherless child , and for making her live her life as if she's done something to be such a bad mother & wife where you'd dump her .

Ive seen this shit happen several times in my 62 yrs of life & its allways the same , the next guy she marries will adore her & be the man of her dreams while being a great father to the child you walked away from , saying you can still be part of the kids life while you build a new life without the child is a bullshit cop out , its shit loosers say to excuse their unexcusable actions .

Wake up & be the husband & father you promised to be when you found out you were gonna be a father , before she tires of you & replaces you with a man who lives up to her expectations of what a husband & father should be .
Ditto Panhead.
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ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Society invented morals because without them we would be animals , being shallow & self absorbed isnt evolution or nature , its childish , immature , loathsome & a unrealistic view of life .

I dont see why your all fuked up over this & cant see the bigger picture , in your initial post its all about how unattracted YOU are to her , how YOU feel YOU can do better , how YOU think your missing out ect ect ect , maybe if you spent more time being a better husband vs lusting after what YOU dont have things would be better for you .

Nothing but a brief mention of your 4 yr old child , have you given any thought to the other 2 people stuck in this right along with you ?

Here's some cons you didnt list .

1 Shitting on a woman who adores you ?
2 Leaving your child fatherless , weekend parenting is a fart in the wind ,especially when new super hot girlfriend hates your kid ?
3 The next 20 guys your kid's gonna call daddy or uncle bob ?
4 Kids from broken homes are less likely to succeed in life ?
5 What if your wife remarries & her new husband is a kick ass father , loves her & your child enough to adopt him or her ?

Why ruin lives when its you that has the problem , ive been married to the same woman for 40 yrs & yes i got tired of the pussy but i dealt with it like a man , life isnt supposed to be perfect at all times , i dont think she's became less attractive at all , its your self.centered thoughts making you ugly inside .

I'd be willing to bet cash money your woman is closer to an 8 or 9 than the low 6 you made her out to be , your seeing her in a different way than before , your seeing the mom , your seeing the cook , your seeing the cleaning lady , you listed those as pro's in your reasons.
From the way you wrote your 1st post it sounds like you dont treat the mother of your child with much respect but she still worships you , put the shoe on the other foot & you'll get a sneak peak at how you will be treated once you leave your family looking for the hottest girl you can get .

After she's spent your last penny & your working overtime ya really think she's gonna be waiting at the door with a kiss & a cold beer ? You'll end up with a shallow ass bitch who stomps on your feelings once it isnt fun for her 24/7 & she see's the real you , you'll be the one doing all the crying & pleading , meanwhile she's asking her friends how to dump the needy not so handsome sissy she's stuck with , she will loose all respect for you once you start pleading & blubbering when she wants to ditch you because she's the shallow cunt your being twords your family .

Monogomy isnt a western ideal its world wide & in many countries deadly serious , ive been married to the same non western woman for 40 yrs & there were a few yrs where i got tired of being with the same woman , but i didnt shit on her , crush her feelings & destroy our childrens lives to fulfill my desires , i dealt with it like a man who thinks about family 1st & personal desire last .

Im in my 60's now & looking back i wouldnt change a thing , i have 3 awesome sons ( lost eldest in Iraq god bless him ) & i was a part of everything they did growing up into men , i was there to teach them honor , dignity , honesty , truth , loyalty ,sacrifice , what love is & how to give & recieve love , all the things good men know & all the things you'll never be able to teach your child , weekend parents have zero positive influence on a childs life & end up causing more harm than good by insisting the woman still submit to their desires , demanding the child be available on weekends for " Visitation " rights , so now you'll be the visitor who ruins the kids chance of spending weekends with friends playing & learning how to interact with his/her peer group , you'll never be a good role model to the child .

IMO you should be on your knee's kissing her ass for putting up with the self centered , selfish & childish drama you put her thru , the fear of loosing her family SHE ADORES ,the fear of raising a fatherless child , and for making her live her life as if she's done something to be such a bad mother & wife where you'd dump her .

Ive seen this shit happen several times in my 62 yrs of life & its allways the same , the next guy she marries will adore her & be the man of her dreams while being a great father to the child you walked away from , saying you can still be part of the kids life while you build a new life without the child is a bullshit cop out , its shit loosers say to excuse their unexcusable actions .

Wake up & be the husband & father you promised to be when you found out you were gonna be a father , before she tires of you & replaces you with a man who lives up to her expectations of what a husband & father should be .
First, my sincerest condolences for your loss, I can't even imagine how that would feel. Thank you for your sacrifice and for his, for his service protecting our way of life. Such honor uplifts us all.

After reading this thread from start to finish, I'm convinced the OP doesn't deserve the chance to raise that kid. I mean, what kind of values can such a twit really teach?

I was going to post an outline of how my ex-wife and I handled this situation as an example of how to do it RIGHT- but he doesn't deserve to hear me give him the time of day, let alone hard won advice.

To the OP: Fucking GROW UP, YO. Some assholes in this country just can't be dragged kicking and screaming to think about anyone but themselves. She's not hot enough? SERIOUSLY?

That is all.
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
I just feel like I'm missing out on the "game" and trying to "level up" . I'm all about self development and realizing your potential, and I know for a fact I deserve a far more attractive life partner. cruel but true.
My god , thats horrible for real , the " deserve " bit says volumes upon volumes , i feel bad for your wife & child , the "game " stops once kids are born , cant you see the gift god's bestowed in your hands ?

That's a hell of a good post panhead! I agree with everything you said, but I still don't think it's a good idea for him to stay with her. He clearly doesn't value her as a person, and no matter how much lipstick he puts on it she will pick up on his lack of love towards her and be miserable in the process. His reasons for leaving are shallow and selfish, but if it's not there it's not there. I truly believe that this girl will be better off without him and will one day look back on this and be thankful that he moved on.

edit: Sorry to hear about your son. As a father I can't imagine going through that
The more i think about it & after reading everybody else's opinion im thinking i was wrong in telling him to stay with her , when you disect his post there are so many issues he has she needs to flee asap , im not a head shrinker but it appears he has serious self esteem issues.

Your right , if she isn't strong enough to leave him then he should leave her , she sounds like a woman who would make some guy a good wife , IMO she stands a great chance of finding a better husband who appreciates her & treats her like a pretty girl & will love her child & be a good father .

Your right about women picking up on shit , she'll sense he aint really diggin her & make her feel worse about herself , my wife lights up like a school girl when i tell her she's beautiful because she knows/ senses how i truly feel about her , girls know shit .

I just cant get past the part where a child is involved & his primary concern is his hooking up with the beautiful woman he deserves , the child deserves a full time dad who isnt self absorbed , ive lost a child in the gulf war & feel his absence from my life 24 hrs a day so the whole walking away from a child deal is beyond my comprehension .

I cant imagine not seeing my kids everyday , watching them play , grow & learn while being a part of it all , how do you purposely walk away from a childs life & try to be a dad 48 hours a week ?

Thank you for your kind words about my son , he was a great young man & he loved being a Marine , my wife is from Beirut Lebanon & is proud that our son took part , as am I , being my 1st born he was my best friend & i miss him so much , im extremely thankfull of the memories my wife & i share about him growing up , being there for his 1st words,teaching him to ride a bike then at 16 giving him his 1st Harley & teaching him to ride safe , being his best man at his wedding & holding my grandson with him .

Im gettin teary eyed thinking about everything i'd of missed out on if i was a weekend father , i cant wrap my head around how these kids have kids then break up like they were in high school , in this guys case your right that he wont respect her & divorce is for the best .
 

Growan

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I didn't know planned parenthood did that. Thanks, I know what I'm doing next week, snip snip no more babies for me.
My missus and her mate were on about having us boys fixed as they've both decided they're done with squeezing and screaming.
I said I'd be OK with it if the price was right. I told her to ring a clinic and see if they'll do some sort of a deal for 2 jobs in one, kind of a ' tie one get one free'...
 
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