CC's Hempy Grow - Top 44

ChipotleChips

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well u defently dont want the temps to be 90 thats too high and that will cause ur plants to because males or herms.......the hps gets hot soo u need to get an intake and maybe even a fan blowing air on the light.....idk u need to see ur space to really clarify what needs to be done...u want ur temps to be around 73 to low 80s like 82 or so...
I never knew high temps=males/hermie???? Fuck i dont want any of those...thankfully the plants havent been chillin in any temps like that...only if i shut the door which i havent...

Yeah, temps are 90 if I shut the door. Like I said Ive just left the door to my closet open and the temps stay around 78-84F max with lights on. 70-75F at night.

Gonna be getting some more duct and bringing it right to my A/C and into the grow room, so that should fix shit.
 

downhiller6325

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there u go problem solved.....stressin a plant will make it switch from feamle to male...even if u have a femisized seed it will.....its all about the enviroment!!!lol
 

ChipotleChips

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there u go problem solved.....stressin a plant will make it switch from feamle to male...even if u have a femisized seed it will.....its all about the enviroment!!!lol
Damn, good to know. Well shit should be solved. I'm actually going to get a new reflector for my HPS light. The one I have now is just generic cheap sunsystem reflector.

I'm going to buy a sunsystem reflector with the duct vents and glass so that I can contain the heat and vent it right out. Ordering that shit today!
 

ChipotleChips

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So theyve been under the HPS for 2 full days now. I can already see faster growth....

I ordered a new Reflector/Hood. It has glass under the light and two vent ducts so that I can keep the heat contained and hook it right up to an out-duct and pull the hot air out of the light...Should have it by next wednesday, just in time to switch to flowering.

So far so good I guess? I think i'm seeing some pistols on one of the plants...keeping my fingers crossed here.

Enjoy the pics
 

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ChipotleChips

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Can anyone tell if my leaves/plants look funny. My buddy was saying the leaves aren't perky. I don't know if this i just how the plant grows or if the leaves face kinda down like that normally.

The plant is pretty green, the colas are strong and the stems coming from the leaves are strong, but I'm not sure if their facing the side cause it's getting too warm?

Any feedback on my above pics?

In hindsight the plant has grown about 2-3 inches since i put in the HPS
 

badtoad2

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Yes they do look funny. I think the leaves should be pointed out instead of down. I wouldn't know what the problem is.
 

littlewhitewhore

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maybe overwatering......Are the roots saturated all the time? i know that its only the bottom inch or so but if the root has grown mainly in that area then it may be over saturated.... I find that underwatering makes the plant sag in a very obvious manner, like its feignting whereas overwatering makes it sag in the green, drunken manner like yours. Also one of the bottom leaves is yellowing out a lil, i never worry too much bout that though.
 

ChipotleChips

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I'm not sure what has really changed but the plants have perked up 100% Their last watering (2 days ago) had a higher amount of nutes also.... I'll post some pics tonight or tomorrow when I water.

Peaceeee
 

ChipotleChips

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So it looks like heat was the issue causing them to not open up. Today temps were around 70-75 in the grow closet and they were happy as can be.

I've attached some pic's, if you compare em to the last set i posted you can see a huge difference....The color is kinda off on the plants since i took it under my HPS, but they look great....
 

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ChipotleChips

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Yeah really not sure whats going on here. Temps have been stable at 74-78 with lights on, and 60's with lights off. Plants are looking kinda sluggish again.

Pissing me off because I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I just watered yesterday after 3 days of no watering. My next water is going to be just straight water no nutes and ill just flush.

Any advice?
 

shnkrmn

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hmmmm. Your plants were really droopy 4 days ago. No water, they got perky, then you watered yesterday and they are droopy again? It LOOKS like overwatering, but A) you are in hempy and B) every three days just isn't enough. I have never gotten plants to look like that in hempy, soil yes.

Are you using tap water or RO? And I forget, all perlite, or perlite/vermiculite blend? Maybe high ppms in tap water could account for it? Obviously you should do nothing (don't flush) until they dry out again and, presumably, perk up. If you aren't using RO water, I would recommend trying it. Your last pix didn't look bad at all, so don't freak out.:leaf::leaf::leaf:
 

ChipotleChips

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Thanks for checking it out...The last pics I posted were when they were doing great, and actually it was a day after I watered them that I took those pics...

They are kinda droopy again at the moment and don't look as alive. My tap water straight up has a PPM of 100-130 and a PH of 6.5 I usually run the water through my Brita filter and use that water which brings it down to 80ppm and 5.5PH, then I add my nutes and up the PH to about 6

I'm gonna go get some RO water today and water with that in a couple days and see what that does. I mean, the plants are alive, but they don't look like their thriving and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
 

shnkrmn

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It doesn't sound like your water is the problem. My next hypothesis would be root rot or excessive algae or bacteria in your medium. This could be caused by excessive temperatures or watering with an insufficient volume of water resulting in bacterial growth in the reservoir. I use Hygrozyme with every watering as a preventive measure,and for general root health. You could try using that or hydrogen peroxide and see if there is any improvement. The only way to firmly diagnose root rot is to look directly at your roots. If they are brown and dissolving/slimy, it's root rot. I'm really not sure how you would go about getting rid of that in hempy. It's not like you can just scrub your res and change your nutes! I really don't know what to tell you; I guess now I WOULD flush, with a hydrogen peroxide solution and then a weak pH'd nutrient solution.
 

ChipotleChips

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It doesn't sound like your water is the problem. My next hypothesis would be root rot or excessive algae or bacteria in your medium. This could be caused by excessive temperatures or watering with an insufficient volume of water resulting in bacterial growth in the reservoir. I use Hygrozyme with every watering as a preventive measure,and for general root health. You could try using that or hydrogen peroxide and see if there is any improvement. The only way to firmly diagnose root rot is to look directly at your roots. If they are brown and dissolving/slimy, it's root rot. I'm really not sure how you would go about getting rid of that in hempy. It's not like you can just scrub your res and change your nutes! I really don't know what to tell you; I guess now I WOULD flush, with a hydrogen peroxide solution and then a weak pH'd nutrient solution.
yeah i think your right on with that one. My clairvoyance says that thats the issue....

Order Hygrozyme might take too long, would you know what ratio of Hydrogen Peroxide i should use to water?

Thanks for the help here.
 

ChipotleChips

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I'm probably making a fool of myself here but I guess thats the process of learning.

So last night i moved my light up about a foot. I came back today and the plants look really happy again, so maybe they were moving their leaves downward because the light was too much??? I think if it was root rot or something of that sort, the leaves would look shitty. They didn't look shitty, they just were all bunched up and close together.

Also, the res is pretty dry, so it could be that too?

I'm going to go with the light was too close to them.

In either case I've already ordered Hygrozyme and will use that with my feedings as a precaution, can't hurt right? I have some Hydrogen Peroxide that I could flush with right now, but the plants look pretty good so why fuck with em.

shrkman thanks for your input here I appreciate you checkin out my thread since your a pro and all kiss-ass

Will update with pics lata....peaceeee
 

DaGambler

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i've heard the Hygrozyme is gentler... so use that i guess...

i use H2O2 with no problem regularly. it helps keep green algae in check as well as staving off root rot and keeping the medium pretty sterile all around. you can just get a 3 percent Hydrogen Peroxide solution at walmart for a dollar for 32 oz. i use from 1 to 3 mL per gallon. (Or just dump an ounce or two into the 40 gal. rez every few days.)

ur water don't sound too bad. but you can't go wrong with RO water. also you didn't mention if you let the chlorine evaporate off before using it.

at first i was thinking 'over-nuted' when i saw ur plants. with a slight pH problem. if your plants have an appropriate rez its really almost impossible to overwater in a Hempy Bucket setup. Hopefully you started with perlite Not made by Miracle Grow... that could have roughened the start. Growing in Hempy is kind of like getting a clone to root... i'd say water small amounts frequently (at least daily) until you know the tap root has hit the rez. and until it hits the rez a person has to be much more vigilant about the ppm and pH every watering than after.

and when are we gonna find out if its a boy or a girl ? :blsmoke: that air-cooled hood you have coming will deffinitely help ur environmental control.
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ChipotleChips

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i've heard the Hygrozyme is gentler... so use that i guess...

i use H2O2 with no problem regularly. it helps keep green algae in check as well as staving off root rot and keeping the medium pretty sterile all around. you can just get a 3 percent Hydrogen Peroxide solution at walmart for a dollar for 32 oz. i use from 1 to 3 mL per gallon. (Or just dump an ounce or two into the 40 gal. rez every few days.)

ur water don't sound too bad. but you can't go wrong with RO water. also you didn't mention if you let the chlorine evaporate off before using it.

at first i was thinking 'over-nuted' when i saw ur plants. with a slight pH problem. if your plants have an appropriate rez its really almost impossible to overwater in a Hempy Bucket setup. Hopefully you started with perlite Not made by Miracle Grow... that could have roughened the start. Growing in Hempy is kind of like getting a clone to root... i'd say water small amounts frequently (at least daily) until you know the tap root has hit the rez. and until it hits the rez a person has to be much more vigilant about the ppm and pH every watering than after.

and when are we gonna find out if its a boy or a girl ? :blsmoke: that air-cooled hood you have coming will deffinitely help ur environmental control.
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Hey man thanks for stoppin in. I'm not exactly sure what the issue is to be honest, i came back tonight and the plants look alright, not bad, not fantastic. Temps are at 75's, didnt water in a couple days, nutes are at 400-450ppm, PH is around 6 (low 6's). I'm 100% perlite, the brand is Schultz? I feel like all my conditions are right, but the plants just don't look as perky.


I've never heard that to let the cholorine evaporate. Usually my water has been sitting in the brita for atleast 12 hours before i use it, not sure if thats enough but I'm gonna start getting RO water from the store.

I WAS able to pickup some Hygrozyme at a shop today, so I included that in my watering today with just a hint of Cal-Mag...130ppm and PHed to about 6.

Today I decided to flip the switch and change to 12/12 Hopefully they should start showing signs of sex within a week or so...they sure as hell smell like bud when I walk in my place, not sure if thats a sign that they might be female....

I'm just at the point where this is whatever. I'm keeping them at good temps, watering every 2-3 days, keeping ppm at a decent level (i think) ph at 6, and they have a good environment. I feel like I'm doing what I can so I'm not gonna stress it, overall theyre growing and their green, they dont look unhealthy. It's my first grow so I can just learn from this and put more knowledge into my second grow.

The count begins....44 days from today! Their sleeping right now but ill get some pics in tomorrow hopefully.
 

shnkrmn

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I'm just at the point where this is whatever. I'm keeping them at good temps, watering every 2-3 days, keeping ppm at a decent level (i think) ph at 6, and they have a good environment. I feel like I'm doing what I can so I'm not gonna stress it, overall theyre growing and their green, they dont look unhealthy. It's my first grow so I can just learn from this and put more knowledge into my second grow.
This is a great attitude to have and staying calm will always get you far in this game. Root rot or not, learning about and adding H2O2 and/or Hygrozyme can only help you in the future. You are doing pretty much everything right so you should be rewarded. It ain't rocket science!

I'm no pro, but thanks for the kiss-ass.I've just progressed beyond journeyman plantkiller, lol.
 

DaGambler

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i follow the thread but it's slipping my mind atm... but someone has a journal called "Diary of a Level 2 Plant Slayer" or something like that, heheh. ;-)
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