Cannabis is rights are dying

Dan Kone said:

There's a lie.

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No I have. I state we need to split it up into three units so we don't do the all or nothing.

So there!

Dan Kone said:

Giving all Californians the right to do something that 0.0001% of Californians want to do is not the same as proposition that benefits all Californians.

Ok. Now that I've answered your questions very throughly, you can answer mine.

Why are the overwhelming majority of the cannabis community who buy their cannabis less deserving of legalization than you?

Why would the majority of Californians vote for something that protects Ernest and has little to no benefit to them?

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That would be a voting majority am I correct?

We can also say that all Californians are a majority can we not?

No you have not answered.

Is it not true that a majority of Californians are all Californians?

It's a simple question.

You mentioned a Voting Majority. I'm asking if you agree that all is a majority.

Do you agree?

budlover13 said:

Majority is 50%+1. Period. Are Californians a minority? No. They are a group. And a majority of that group means 50%+1. All Cali Republicans and Democrats are Californians, but that doesn't make them both a majority. By the rules of logical math anyways. 50%+1 of Californians constitutes a majority. 100% constitutes the electorate.

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I'm sorry are you Dan's Dad?

He is old enough to play yes?

Excuse me? Little feisty over a simple mathematical statement. Yes? i haven't been taking sides in any of these threads, but you sure know how to push a person away from yours. Juuuuuust an observation Ernst.

budlover13 said:

Excuse me? Little feisty over a simple mathematical statement. Yes? i haven't been taking sides in any of these threads, but you sure know how to push a person away from yours. Juuuuuust an observation Ernst.

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Anyone with a dissenting opinion gets the same treatment budlover. He's not interested in what others think. He is only interested in his spamming agenda.

Ernst said:

That would be a voting majority am I correct?

We can also say that all Californians are a majority can we not?

No you have not answered.

Is it not true that a majority of Californians are all Californians?

It's a simple question.

You mentioned a Voting Majority. I'm asking if you agree that all is a majority.

Do you agree?

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I'm not interested in debating what the word "majority" means. This is getting tiresome. You should go back on your meds.

In order to stop this insanity, I'll agree with whatever the hell you just said above.

Now what's your point? What you're supporting only benefits 0.001% of Californians, as apposed to other more serious legalization efforts that attempt to benefit the majority.

Carne Seca said:

Anyone with a dissenting opinion gets the same treatment budlover. He's not interested in what others think. He is only interested in his spamming agenda.

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Yeah, i kinda got that from reading his posts. i simply threw a mathematical fact out there and got jumped. Obviously, he knows not of the game called politics.

doc111 said:

I would say it's safe to assume it's the same problem the rest of us have with you. You are acting in your own self interests, are annoying the piss out of the rest of us with your condescending tone and your taunting with the "fake person" bullshit. I highly doubt anybody is jealous of you Ernst. I take pity on you, I don't envy you.

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And you are not?

What an ass!

budlover13 said:

Yeah, i kinda got that from reading his posts. i simply threw a mathematical fact out there and got jumped. Obviously, he knows not of the game called politics.

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He obviously has some point he's trying to make which requires me to agree with whatever the hell he's trying to say in order to set me up for some gotcha moment. I've now agreed with him so hopefully he can get it over with.

Either that or he's just off his medication. Could go either way.

budlover13 said:

Yeah, i kinda got that from reading his posts. i simply threw a mathematical fact out there and got jumped. Obviously, he knows not of the game called politics.

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Who made you God?

What you posted was to bolster your own rank.. It has nothing to do with me..

LOL!

Ernst said:

Who made you God?

What you posted was to bolster your own rank.. It has nothing to do with me..

LOL!

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OK guy. Bolster my own rank? By quoting math on a pot forum. +REP! +REP!

Who childishly, immaturly, and relentlessly attacks others? Isn't me. Grab a mirror Ernst. Our problem lies right there.

hmm,well, preaching about legalization on a growsite is a bit, either its the choir or scumbags who want it illegal so they can grow a buck.

but you guys are just picking fights to pick fights, irritated blue balls much?

lol, abused and oppressed minority and gardeners to boot, anyone who fights here over so trivial things is an idiot (trolls are idiots)
cannabis has been illegal so long because of idiots that dont stick together and greedy idiots that take advantage of that and then there are the idiots that go around trolling. (newest member of the idiot family)

And God? This isn't the religion forum numbskull.

sso said:

hmm,well, preaching about legalization on a growsite is a bit, either its the choir or scumbags who want it illegal so they can grow a buck.

but you guys are just picking fights to pick fights, irritated blue balls much?

lol, abused and oppressed minority and gardeners to boot, anyone who fights here over so trivial things is an idiot (trolls are idiots)
cannabis has been illegal so long because of idiots that dont stick together and greedy idiots that take advantage of that and then there are the idiots that go around trolling. (newest member of the idiot family)

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No problem with people discussing legalization. It's the spamming of personal agendas in a repetitive manner every day that is annoying.

Dan Kone said:

No problem with people discussing legalization. It's the spamming of personal agendas in a repetitive manner every day that is annoying.

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1, maybe 2 threads is understandable. MOST people know how to bump a thread and keep it going. But those that attack everyone in the thread generally have to start MANY threads. Kinda like the kid at the market throwing a tantrum b/c he didn't get his candy.

I agree it's an idiot's dance.

It's the reason we will fail in 2012 for sure..

On the No side it's all about "Not in my town" and here it's "Not without commerce."

So how do we bring them both together?

Medical seems to supply the answer as in private cannabis horticulture via permit.

But that means for the "for profit cannabis grower" that they can expect Federal Prison either way so I understand how clinging to false hope is the mantra.

This isn't so much a fight as a needed discussion for our community at large.

I am but a man; an imperfect man.. The question is what are We?

So far it seems obvious there is no we or at least it is a masked and hiding community and by that it is ineffectual by nature in effecting cannabis freedom. Everyone is waiting for someone to pay the way.
Everyone wants to know it safe before they risk exposure and not here exactly but in the communities and the States..



The question arises of how do we turn our non-organized cannabis community into an organized force for change in 2012.

It won't be by coddling and making everyone comfortable if they never organize to start with.


So, I may be going about it poorly but I am going about it.

What do you do outside this forum?

i am not worried a bit. Here, FB, Yahoo. EVERYONE knows i grow and smoke cannabis. i'm down for legalization but attacking each other isn't the way to do it.

meh. I'll just wait for the people who are serious about legalization to finish writing their ballot measure. Should be finished soon so they can get signatures over the summer!

budlover13 said:

i am not worried a bit. Here, FB, Yahoo. EVERYONE knows i grow and smoke cannabis. i'm down for legalization but attacking each other isn't the way to do it.

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yeah I would be right there.. I debated two undercovers at the bike shop last week.
I didn't know until they left and I was told who they were.
He was like.. Man you get some points with me for that!

Still in general terms we face a culture based on fear and JUVENILITY.

Where is the focus? Is it on ostracising the unwanted like we did in high school or is it in solidarity of action as in legalizing?

I do think you see the native environment in this forum.