Canada’s shameful history of marginalization exposed again.

Budley Doright

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schuylaar said:
that's because people have selective memory; remember what they wish to.

hence the wall.

sometimes fiction is reality look at The Simpsons..how en pointe were they/are?

Blade Runner 2049. It was just found out that a child had been born to a Replicant. What Madam says to K.

black people in Africa have slaves to this day- why?

this world barely makes sense any longer but seems as if it's always been this way- warring peoples..black on black..white on everyone....russian on all..romans on all.
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FIFY ;).
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Hundreds of Ryerson professors sign letter demanding university change its name | CBC News

Hundreds of Ryerson professors sign letter demanding university change its name
More than 300 professors, including 3 associate deans, sign letter demanding name change, statue removal
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A statue of Egerton Ryerson lies on the grounds of the university that bears his name after being toppled on Jun. 6, 2021.

Hundreds of professors and other faculty members at Ryerson University in Toronto have signed a letter demanding that the school change its name — just a day after Egerton Ryerson's statue was toppled on campus.

About 345 professors, including three associate deans, signed a letter saying that "now is the time to stop commemorating Ryerson." It's one of several petitions and letters making similar demands coming out of the university community; open letters have been written by the university's staff, its Indigenous faculty and its Indigenous students.

"Today, there remains no cover or excuse to turn away from the truth about the namesake of our university," the faculty letter reads. "Every Indigenous family in this country has been touched by Indian Residential Schools and our namesake's legacy as an architect of the residential school system is the reason we must act now as faculty members at this institution."

On Sunday, the statue of Egerton Ryerson at the university was toppled following a rally — called Bring the Children Home — that saw up to 1,000 people attend and march from Queen's Park to Gould Street in Toronto.
The rally was held in response to the reported discovery of the remains of as many as 215 Indigenous children buried on the site of a former residential school in Kamloops, B.C.

Egerton Ryerson is considered one of the primary architects of Canada's residential school system and in recent years staff and students have been calling for the removal of his statue and for the university to change its name.
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The head of the statue of Egerton Ryerson now on a spike at Land Back Lane in Caledonia, Ont. | CBC News

The head of the statue of Egerton Ryerson now on a spike at Land Back Lane in Caledonia, Ont.

Statue of one of the architects of residential schools was toppled outside the Toronto university
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The head from a Ryerson University statue of Egerton Ryerson, one of the architects of Canada's residential school system, is seen after its removal, at 1492 Land Back Lane reclamation camp set up by Six Nations of the Grand River in Caledonia, Ont. (Carlos Osorio/Reuters)

Last seen decapitated from a statue on the Ryerson University campus in Toronto, the head of Egerton Ryerson has made its way to 1492 Land Back Lane in Caledonia, Ont.

The area is the subject of an ongoing land battle between the Six Nations of the Grand River and local developers, who are attempting to build residential housing on land that the Six Nations say was never ceded by the Haudenosaunee.

The statue head is now resting on a "pike" overseeing the land, according to Skyler Williams, a Six Nations of the Grand River member who has been acting as spokesperson for 1492 Land Back Lane. The area is about 20 kilometres south of Hamilton near the Six Nations of the Grand River reserve.

Williams said he doesn't know how it got to the site, but they'll keep it unless someone else "is wanting to take it on tour."

Ryerson was one of the architects of Canada's residential school system, which separated 150,000 Indigenous children from their families until the last one closed in 1996.

"It'll stay in its spot on the hill for the foreseeable future," he said about the statue head.

A post from a Twitter account associated with 1492 Land Back Lane showed it overlooking the land nearby.
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CunningCanuk

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The head of the statue of Egerton Ryerson now on a spike at Land Back Lane in Caledonia, Ont. | CBC News

The head of the statue of Egerton Ryerson now on a spike at Land Back Lane in Caledonia, Ont.

Statue of one of the architects of residential schools was toppled outside the Toronto university
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The head from a Ryerson University statue of Egerton Ryerson, one of the architects of Canada's residential school system, is seen after its removal, at 1492 Land Back Lane reclamation camp set up by Six Nations of the Grand River in Caledonia, Ont. (Carlos Osorio/Reuters)

Last seen decapitated from a statue on the Ryerson University campus in Toronto, the head of Egerton Ryerson has made its way to 1492 Land Back Lane in Caledonia, Ont.

The area is the subject of an ongoing land battle between the Six Nations of the Grand River and local developers, who are attempting to build residential housing on land that the Six Nations say was never ceded by the Haudenosaunee.

The statue head is now resting on a "pike" overseeing the land, according to Skyler Williams, a Six Nations of the Grand River member who has been acting as spokesperson for 1492 Land Back Lane. The area is about 20 kilometres south of Hamilton near the Six Nations of the Grand River reserve.

Williams said he doesn't know how it got to the site, but they'll keep it unless someone else "is wanting to take it on tour."

Ryerson was one of the architects of Canada's residential school system, which separated 150,000 Indigenous children from their families until the last one closed in 1996.

"It'll stay in its spot on the hill for the foreseeable future," he said about the statue head.

A post from a Twitter account associated with 1492 Land Back Lane showed it overlooking the land nearby.
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My wife used to teach at Ryerson. She will love this.
 
hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/11/deb-haaland-indigenous-boarding-schools/
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Deb Haaland, the U.S. interior secretary, is the first Native American to serve as a Cabinet secretary.

As I read stories about an unmarked grave in Canada where the remains of 215 Indigenous children were found last month, I was sick to my stomach. But the deaths of Indigenous children at the hands of government were not limited to that side of the border. Many Americans may be alarmed to learn that the United States also has a history of taking Native children from their families in an effort to eradicate our culture and erase us as a people. It is a history that we must learn from if our country is to heal from this tragic era.

I am a product of these horrific assimilation policies. My maternal grandparents were stolen from their families when they were only 8 years old and were forced to live away from their parents, culture and communities until they were 13. Many children like them never made it back home.

Over nearly 100 years, tens of thousands of Indigenous children were taken from their communities and forced into scores of boarding schools run by religious institutions and the U.S. government. Some studies suggest that by 1926, nearly 83 percent of Native American school-age children were in the system. Many children were doused with DDT upon arrival, and as their coerced re-education got underway, they endured physical abuse for speaking their tribal languages or practicing traditions that didn’t fit into what the government believed was the American ideal.

My great-grandfather was taken to Carlisle Indian School in Pennsylvania. Its founder coined the phrase “kill the Indian, and save the man,” which genuinely reflects the influences that framed these policies at the time.

My family’s story is not unlike that of many other Native American families in this country. We have a generation of lost or injured children who are now the lost or injured aunts, uncles, parents and grandparents of those who live today. I once spent time with my grandmother recording our history for a writing assignment in college. It was the first time I heard her speak candidly about how hard it was — about how a priest gathered the children from the village and put them on a train, and how she missed her family. She spoke of the loneliness she endured. We wept together. It was an exercise in healing for her and a profound lesson for me about the resilience of our people, and even more about how important it is to reclaim what those schools tried to take from our people.

The lasting and profound impacts of the federal government’s boarding school system have never been appropriately addressed. This attempt to wipe out Native identity, language and culture continues to manifest itself in the disparities our communities face, including long-standing intergenerational trauma, cycles of violence and abuse, disappearance, premature deaths, and additional undocumented physiological and psychological impacts.

Many of the boarding schools were maintained by the Interior Department, which I now lead. I believe that I — and the Biden-Harris administration — have an important responsibility to bring this trauma to light.

Our children, parents and grandparents deserve a federal government that works to promote our tribal languages, culture and mental health. Many Native children want to learn their tribe’s language, songs and ceremonies. Many Native families want the children who were lost to come home, regardless of how long ago they were stolen.

The obligation to correct and heal those unspeakable wrongs extends to today and starts with investments such as those President Biden has made to strengthen tribal sovereignty through the American Rescue Plan, the American Jobs Plan and the budget for fiscal 2022.

Our administration has set out to forge a new path to engage with tribal communities and to live up to its trust and treaty responsibilities. But that obligation also requires that all Americans listen and learn, that we allow federal boarding school survivors and their families an opportunity to be heard, and that we engage in meaningful tribal consultation to seek justice.
Though it is uncomfortable to learn that the country you love is capable of committing such acts, the first step to justice is acknowledging these painful truths and gaining a full understanding of their impacts so that we can unravel the threads of trauma and injustice that linger. We have a long road of healing ahead of us, but together with tribal nations, I am sure that we can work together for a future that we will all be proud to embrace.
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schuylaar said:
the 100k year war of Neanderthals and Humans. it's always been this way for supremacy. you would think since we can communicate we'd be able to work things out.

but we can't.

www.sciencealert.com

Neanderthals And Humans Were at War For Over 100,000 Years, Evidence Shows

Around 600,000 years ago, humanity split in two.
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Read the article.

"Neanderthals resisted modern human expansion.

Why else would we take so long to leave Africa? Not because the environment was hostile but because Neanderthals were already thriving in Europe and Asia."

Sorry, that is not proof. There are other questionable statements in the article also. I am glad to have read it as it does give more threads to unravel. But as far as the Neanderthals beating back the hordes of humans,

"Around 70,000 years ago, humanity's global population dropped down to only a few thousand individuals, and it had major effects on our species."

www.businessinsider.com

The human race once came dangerously close to dying out — here's how it changed us

Did a supervolcano almost kill all humans?
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Not a lengthy article but one idea I have read before. As to the idea that humans were contained by Neanderthals, the spaces were vast as compared to the number of individuals. The academic research has shown that Neanderthals were often only in small groups, that interbreeding took place as there were not a lot of individuals to mate with. Anyway, I enjoyed reading the article even though I am taking some of the statements as theory and not fact.

"Two fossilized human crania (Apidima 1 and Apidima 2) from Apidima Cave, southern Greece, were discovered in the late 1970s but have remained enigmatic owing to their incomplete nature, taphonomic distortion and lack of archaeological context and chronology. Here we virtually reconstruct both crania, provide detailed comparative descriptions and analyses, and date them using U-series radiometric methods. Apidima 2 dates to more than 170 thousand years ago and has a Neanderthal-like morphological pattern. By contrast, Apidima 1 dates to more than 210 thousand years ago and presents a mixture of modern human and primitive features. These results suggest that two late Middle Pleistocene human groups were present at this site—an early Homo sapiens population, followed by a Neanderthal population. Our findings support multiple dispersals of early modern humans out of Africa, and highlight the complex demographic processes that characterized Pleistocene human evolution and modern human presence in southeast Europe. "

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One of the papers used to say there was conflict between human and Neanderthals was that two skulls were found in the same area 30,000 years apart is proof that they were in conflict? Hah!
 
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Saw there were comments below the war article. Seems others have questioned the author's reasoning along the same lines.
 
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BudmanTX said:
i did also when i read it, that's why i remember bout Lucy.......his timeline is just a tad off imo
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I don't have a problem with his timeline, Lucy is nowhere near as human as Neanderthals and Humans. Lot of years to get her up to today's standards. There is a hole in the story of the Neanderthals predecessors leaving Africa and the time after that. Then there is his map on the areas the different humanoids lived in. The Denisovans range is guesstimated given that we only have two sights where their bones have been found. The genetic material from them does make its way through vast areas but If I recall correctly Northwestern Europe also has some of their DNA in them. No, much of his dissertation is conjecture.
 
Mr.Estrain

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Sad for sure but this is old news. This all came to light over ten years ago. There's actually over 2800 children believed to have died while at those schools. So the discovery of a portion of the bodies shouldn't be a surprise or illicit the social response, TEN years later. It's almost like people don't pay attention to the news unless it's on their social media feed lolol. DOLTS. If people would do some research they would know that there was a THREE BILLION DOLLAR PAYOUT ($3,000,000,000)in a class action lawsuit. So yeah it's sad, but it's old news and people have been compensated.

Judging history through today's Rosey glasses is a joke, gtfo with that gibberish. Times were different then. When a nation conquered another they had their way with it, in every way. Deal with it and get over it or call a wahhhmbulance.

Look up - residential school settlement and - the truth and reconciliation committee.
 
hanimmal

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Mr.Estrain said:
Sad for sure but this is old news. This all came to light over ten years ago. There's actually over 2800 children believed to have died while at those schools. So the discovery of a portion of the bodies shouldn't be a surprise or illicit the social response, TEN years later. It's almost like people don't pay attention to the news unless it's on their social media feed lolol. DOLTS. If people would do some research they would know that there was a THREE BILLION DOLLAR PAYOUT ($3,000,000,000)in a class action lawsuit. So yeah it's sad, but it's old news and people have been compensated.

Judging history through today's Rosey glasses is a joke, gtfo with that gibberish. Times were different then. When a nation conquered another they had their way with it, in every way. Deal with it and get over it or call a wahhhmbulance.

Look up - residential school settlement and - the truth and reconciliation committee.
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You seem a bit triggered.

You don't think finding a mass grave of children is something that should illicit a 'social response'?

I would think that the real problem was that there was not a social response a decade ago.
 
Mr.Estrain

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hanimmal said:


You seem a bit triggered.

You don't think finding a mass grave of children is something that should illicit a 'social response'?

I would think that the real problem was that there was not a social response a decade ago.
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You again,*palm to face lol

Congratulations on making my block list goof


 
CunningCanuk

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Mr.Estrain said:
Sad for sure but this is old news. This all came to light over ten years ago. There's actually over 2800 children believed to have died while at those schools. So the discovery of a portion of the bodies shouldn't be a surprise or illicit the social response, TEN years later. It's almost like people don't pay attention to the news unless it's on their social media feed lolol. DOLTS. If people would do some research they would know that there was a THREE BILLION DOLLAR PAYOUT ($3,000,000,000)in a class action lawsuit. So yeah it's sad, but it's old news and people have been compensated.

Judging history through today's Rosey glasses is a joke, gtfo with that gibberish. Times were different then. When a nation conquered another they had their way with it, in every way. Deal with it and get over it or call a wahhhmbulance.

Look up - residential school settlement and - the truth and reconciliation committee.
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Fogdog

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Mr.Estrain said:
Sad for sure but this is old news. This all came to light over ten years ago. There's actually over 2800 children believed to have died while at those schools. So the discovery of a portion of the bodies shouldn't be a surprise or illicit the social response, TEN years later. It's almost like people don't pay attention to the news unless it's on their social media feed lolol. DOLTS. If people would do some research they would know that there was a THREE BILLION DOLLAR PAYOUT ($3,000,000,000)in a class action lawsuit. So yeah it's sad, but it's old news and people have been compensated.

Judging history through today's Rosey glasses is a joke, gtfo with that gibberish. Times were different then. When a nation conquered another they had their way with it, in every way. Deal with it and get over it or call a wahhhmbulance.

Look up - residential school settlement and - the truth and reconciliation committee.
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reparations and reconciliation aren't just about money. As your post indicates, a lot more work is needed.
 
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