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Warpedpassage

Warpedpassage

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Lovely plants, thanks for posting this grow. We really need more led shows.

Im wondering about scope in your link, it looks like it only magnifies 20-40x. But your pictures seem to be higher magnification. The same company has another one that goes up to 160x. Looks just like the one in the link. Just wondering.
 
SMT69

SMT69

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Warpedpassage said:
Lovely plants, thanks for posting this grow. We really need more led shows.

Im wondering about scope in your link, it looks like it only magnifies 20-40x. But your pictures seem to be higher magnification. The same company has another one that goes up to 160x. Looks just like the one in the link. Just wondering.
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This one only goes to 40X, and if you look closely, its barely close enough to see if they are clear enough. 60x is recommended. This one seems to be good enough, I'll know in a week or 2 if i can tell between clear cloudy and amber i hope....

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I’ve had a few small cheap microscopes and around 30x seems great for us.
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Yep, if you go too high magnification they are very difficult to focus/use.....im hoping this will be good enough for these old eyes
 
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SMT69

SMT69

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Lights on, 3k nuclear yellow, (they're not really this color in natural light)

They're drinking less water now, way more runoff, and taking in dbl the nutes, runoff ppm has been half what i put in, putin' up to 950ppm now... runoff is still 500...have tip burn so i dunno. its hard to figure out this coco.


 
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Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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SMT69 said:
Lights on, 3k nuclear yellow, (they're not really this color in real light)

They're drinking less water now, way more runoff, and taking in dbl the nutes, runoff has been half what i put in, putin' up to 950ppm now... runoff is still 500...have tip burn so i dunno. its hard to figure out this coco.





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They look healthy, i wouldn’t worry much about the tips at this stage.

I always wonder what people who obsess on tips are losing by backing off the nutes when they see some brown tips on otherwise healthy plants.

What’s your flush plan, when the time comes?
 
SMT69

SMT69

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Or_Gro said:
What’s your flush plan, when the time comes?
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Gradually reducing nutes....everyone's all over the place with thier process/lots a great threads.....so im going with ones that seem to make most sense/ safest approach for now...for coco---> not a complete withdrawl/flush....just a gradual lowering untill the end..maybe last few days just water....i doubt id be able to tell the diff anyways

Edit: makes me think about really wanting to go organic anyways....seriously
 
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Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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SMT69 said:
Gradually reducing nutes....everyone's all over the place with thier process/lots a great threads.....so im going with ones that seem to make most sense for coco--- not complete a withdrawl/flush....just a gradual lowering untill the end..maybe last few days just water....i doubt id be able to tell the diff anyways

Edit: makes me think about really wanting to go organic anyways....seriously
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Have no experience or desire to do anything other than dwc...so no advice to offer...
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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SMT69 said:
Amen, i see the advantages, you’re killing it !
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Thx

I’ve done indoor soil once, didn't like the uncertainty of pH and nutes vs dwc, couldn’t stand the bugs w soil (never had a single bug w dwc), feel comfortable with dwc risks (temp, water infection, pH and nute control) and quick feedback on variables.
 
Warpedpassage

Warpedpassage

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SMT69 said:
This one only goes to 40X, and if you look closely, its barely close enough to see if they are clear enough. 60x is recommended. This one seems to be good enough, I'll know in a week or 2 if i can tell between clear cloudy and amber i hope....


Yep, if you go too high magnification they are very difficult to focus/use.....im hoping this will be good enough for these old eyes
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Thanks for clarifying.
 
zypheruk

zypheruk

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Most people check their trichomes but are looking at the sugar leaves which is not correct. Also shade the bud your looking at as some times the trichomes look white and in reality what your seeing is the lights being reflected which is more noticeable under hps and burple led. Also agree with hillbill on this.
 
INF Flux

INF Flux

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SMT69 said:
Edit: makes me think about really wanting to go organic anyways....seriously
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Or_Gro said:
Thx

I’ve done indoor soil once, didn't like the uncertainty of pH and nutes vs dwc, couldn’t stand the bugs w soil (never had a single bug w dwc), feel comfortable with dwc risks (temp, water infection, pH and nute control) and quick feedback on variables.
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My take on going organic.
A sterile environment vs "C'mon in!
Indoors presents problems because we are removing our plants from the checks and balances that are present outside. A sterile environment makes this a non issue but can be difficult to maintain. Growing in dirt indoors but without the whole living soil thing can be like building a bug house and hoping they don't move in. I'm a bit of a slob, and garden outside for veggies a lot, so that was an issue for me.
The advantage as I see it for indoor organics is that you are attempting to bring the whole thing inside. Once you have established your beneficials, fungi, bacteria, worms, bugs and have it all going, it's very easy to maintain and all I spend on is predator bugs as IPM. I routinely gather plants from the yard, to use as top dressing, and don't wash or treat in any way.
Disadvantages, It takes a few months to get your first beds up and running so that the full cast of supporting actors are present and healthy. Learning curve! Actually, you don't need to know everything, but there is a lot to learn if you go down that rabbit hole. Bug freakouts! You'll be spending time figuring out WTF is that. 99% of the time it's a thing that helps. Do not nuke your beds because of soil mites lol.
Best thing you can do if going that route is read and prepare in advance. You don't NEED a worm bin, but it's easy to make and helps, if you have the space to set it up where it will be without growing in it yet, establishing the cover crop companion plants, worms, fungi etc. well in advance of the actual crop would be a good idea. If you don't, do the same in planters or something and keep them as intact as you can when ready.
I really dig it, is it for everyone? Maybe not, Is it better? Depends on the grower. I'm certainly not going to knock anyone growing dwc or coco and crushing it.
 
Or_Gro

Or_Gro

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INF Flux said:
My take on going organic.
A sterile environment vs "C'mon in!
Indoors presents problems because we are removing our plants from the checks and balances that are present outside. A sterile environment makes this a non issue but can be difficult to maintain. Growing in dirt indoors but without the whole living soil thing can be like building a bug house and hoping they don't move in. I'm a bit of a slob, and garden outside for veggies a lot, so that was an issue for me.
The advantage as I see it for indoor organics is that you are attempting to bring the whole thing inside. Once you have established your beneficials, fungi, bacteria, worms, bugs and have it all going, it's very easy to maintain and all I spend on is predator bugs as IPM. I routinely gather plants from the yard, to use as top dressing, and don't wash or treat in any way.
Disadvantages, It takes a few months to get your first beds up and running so that the full cast of supporting actors are present and healthy. Learning curve! Actually, you don't need to know everything, but there is a lot to learn if you go down that rabbit hole. Bug freakouts! You'll be spending time figuring out WTF is that. 99% of the time it's a thing that helps. Do not nuke your beds because of soil mites lol.
Best thing you can do if going that route is read and prepare in advance. You don't NEED a worm bin, but it's easy to make and helps, if you have the space to set it up where it will be without growing in it yet, establishing the cover crop companion plants, worms, fungi etc. well in advance of the actual crop would be a good idea. If you don't, do the same in planters or something and keep them as intact as you can when ready.
I really dig it, is it for everyone? Maybe not, Is it better? Depends on the grower. I'm certainly not going to knock anyone growing dwc or coco and crushing it.
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I agree, do what’s best for your situation, this weed is soooo adaptable...as i said earlier i admire your approach & style, just wanna spend my learning curve time on other stuff...imo, it’s all good...
 
SMT69

SMT69

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zypheruk said:
Most people check their trichomes but are looking at the sugar leaves which is not correct. Also shade the bud your looking at as some times the trichomes look white and in reality what your seeing is the lights being reflected which is more noticeable under hps and burple led. Also agree with hillbill on this.
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Thx Z that really helps

hillbill said:
Whenever checking trikes make very sure you have it finely focused. At times clear or cloudy trikes look amber but are not when microscope is just slightly out of focus.
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ty, also, i attempted looking while on the plant, good luck with that, it seems much easier to take a sample off the plant and have it stationary seems to be key. ....i noticed if some trichs looked cloudy, but i moved the bud they were actually still clear ( getting reflections and making them look cloudy or something). for me atleast , its seems way easier to take pics and then look on my computer as they are blown up even more
 
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