Bush Convicted of War Crimes in Absentia
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MuyLocoNC
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The water boarding subject has been argued endlessly in these forums and it comes down to one single fact. Every single instance of water boarding that took place and was authorized during Bush's presidency was legal under US law at the time they occurred.
It's a fact and it isn't debatable. You don't get to restrict an interrogation method and then call it's use prior to that restriction unlawful.
It's a fact and it isn't debatable. You don't get to restrict an interrogation method and then call it's use prior to that restriction unlawful.
smok3y1
Active Member
You skipped over the other parts mate:
"The court heard how
"The court heard how
- Abbas Abid, a 48-year-old engineer from Fallujah in Iraq had his fingernails removed by pliers.
- Ali Shalal was attached with bare electrical wires and electrocuted and hung from a wall.
- Moazzam Begg was beaten, hooded and put in solitary confinement.
- Jameelah was stripped and humiliated, and was used as a human shield whilst being transported by helicopter."
MuyLocoNC
Well-Known Member
Anything is possible. But, I've never heard of any of that being directly linked to Bush or his administration. I would have a hard time believing it without an incontrovertible smoking gun.
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
I dont wonder why
I already know
The reason Bush Cheney Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz Dont go overseas
They know better
Because there will be an attempt to arrest them for war crimes
And the USA would Look bad defending them
I already know
The reason Bush Cheney Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz Dont go overseas
They know better
Because there will be an attempt to arrest them for war crimes
And the USA would Look bad defending them
abandonconflict
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The only division that matters is the only one people seem to ignore. So many false dichotomies divide the world. Race and religion have been the most over-used. The last thing the Oligarchy wants is for the masses to see how much power and wealth is concentrated in so few hands and passed by hereditary means. I think people are starting to come to and see that the American dream of socioeconomic upward mobility is nonexistent. I don't think that an occupy protest will accomplish anything either however.
People need to vote with their money. The way we spend tells them what we want. So far, it appears we all want them to stay in control. I don't buy power from the grid. I do this out of contempt for our energy infrastructure, since it was Tesla's design for AC to be an infrastructure of free energy for all. Another example, don't just complain about Monsanto and GMOs, man up and grow some food. We keep the few in power.
abandonconflict
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Someone should at least throw some shoes...
canndo
Well-Known Member
We can no longer sue Mcdonalds for making us fat. You seem to have missed my other posts that indicate that companies don't spend billions in marketing campaigns because they don't work. What is perpetualy interesting to me are arguments that tell us how individuals "should" behave, that the answer to our social problems is that individuals "should" to this or "should" refrain from doing that. While it is the individual's "fault" you do not account for how all of those formerly strong, reasonable people have, in the last 40 years magicaly lost their "self accountability".
"maybe if...." is not an asessment of reality, it is wishful thinking. wishful thinking doesn't make much of a difference when confronted with high powered marketing.
canndo
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As I said, the torture memos from Bybee and Yoo are the smoking gun. You can try to blame underlings all you wish but when the very top is assured that torture is ok, the odds are that the lower ranks simply followed orders, explicit or implicit.