Bubble hash or wax? which is better to make?

Susanne

Susanne

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Help! I originally looked up how to make hash over a year ago, and it looked a little difficult; now, it looks like the instructions on the forum are in Greek. I thought my main dilemma was which kind, and now I'm seeing SO many ways and new terms that aren't even in the slang dictionary, like: BHO, RSO, loop, etc. I'm so confused I don't know where to begin.
SO, for starters, I noticed that wax is much stronger. I've been using wax bought at dispensaries and it helps me sleep through the night. THAT is what I'm trying to do. Will bubble hash be strong enough for that? If so, I know it's safer to make.
Also, SO many instructions it makes my head spin. I know if I make bubble hash, I need to buy bubble bags, and some other stuff, but I've got to look it all up.
Any help will be greatly appreciated! I've been successful making tincture (boiling it down), so, I have experience there and with Cannabutter also. But, this looks much harder, and I need to get it done, as I only have about 2 weeks worth left.
Also, there are SO many bubble bags on Amazon, I have no idea which to buy. Some have little washers with them, too. Any suggestions there?


THANKS!
 
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Joint Monster

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As far as helping you sleep, it more so depends on the strain that you run rather than the actual form that you take it in.

Concentrates like BHO/Wax/Shatter/Glass/LiveResin/Caviar are known to be much higher THC % 60-99%/ They're all different names for variations of the same thing, a cannabis concentrate. They have some differences in consistently, taste, medicinal strength.

Bubble Hash is usually a little lower, but still fairly high in THC %.

RSO is Rick Simpson oil. You can youtube that. It's what they give to cancer patients! (very potent, very pure, very effective, can be expensive)

You seem like a beginner, in which case I would suggest you stay away from making BHO like concentrates. Unless you plan on investing four figures for a closed loop system. Nooby's shouldn't open blast... really you just shouldn't open blast, period. If you don't know what I'm talking about - really do Not make BHO or Shatter or Wax. (it's goes KA-BOOM! when you don't know what you're doing!)

Bubble Hash can still be very effective for pain relief and sleep. (Again more dependent on the strain you run.) You can make bubble hash safely. I would start with a nice 5 or 6-bag set. I'd invest a quality brand like "Bubble Bag" brand bags (but that's just me).
(If you go to a dispensary, Hash's like Afghan, Black, Hindu, Moroccan tend to be more Indica Leaning, while Hash's like Blonde Hash tend to me a little more sativa leaning. At least from my experience.)

You can also look into making full melt bubble hash, which is more like Shatter/Wax. It's super nice, but harder to produce, takes more skill/practice.

Hope that helps! :)
 
tstick

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There is a real learning curve to making proper bubble hash. It's SO satisfying, though, when you get it 'right'.

I think the best answer for you, OP, is to get into quality ROSIN. Rosin making is relatively easy, involves NO solvent....AND can produce a superior wax.

You can pre-educate yourself with some rosin-making videos on YouTube to get the basic technique down.

I recommend investing a quality rosin press or making one, yourself.

In addition, you can still practice your bubble hash making skill and when you get it down, you can use your rosin press to press it into super-high quality rosin.

Right now. rosin wax made from bubble hash is the highest priced concentrate in the stores.
 
Susanne

Susanne

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@Joint Monster, thanks. You've helped a lot already. Yes, I'm a newbie. And, I agree that it looks too scary to make the BHO concentrates (at least for now). I'll look into the full melt bubble hash, too.

I guess the strains would be better if they're Indica dominant? I have Afghan and Gold Leaf that are. And, also have Trainwreck and AK-47 that are Sativa Dominant. I have fibromyalgia and a host of other pains, along with nausea. SO, I buy my seeds to help my symptoms. Funny, I can't tell the difference between them when I smoke the buds. No different than bag seed. I get the same feeling (not the euphoric "High" that I used to get before I became ill, just helps the nausea and a little with the pain...not much on the pain....but I don't care as much :lol:. Any suggestion as to which strain would be better for hash and sleeping? Gold Leaf and trainwreck say they're good for insomnia, but then AK-47 says it's good for migraines, and I found that NO cannabis is good for migraines, so I don't know what to believe.

I'm on my way to order the bubble bags to at least get started. I know there are other things to buy. I don't know about the washer that comes with some of them. Is that needed? I need to read more...I've read & read. The more I read, the more confused i get. Unfortunately, the fibro and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome are also bad for cognitive stuff like memory, reading, remembering words.....I used to have a good mind.. I was actually smart (wouldn't have said that back then, but now that I've lost it, I will!). I miss my brain!
thanks again.
 
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Susanne

Susanne

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tstick said:
There is a real learning curve to making proper bubble hash. It's SO satisfying, though, when you get it 'right'.

I think the best answer for you, OP, is to get into quality ROSIN. Rosin making is relatively easy, involves NO solvent....AND can produce a superior wax.

You can pre-educate yourself with some rosin-making videos on YouTube to get the basic technique down.

I recommend investing a quality rosin press or making one, yourself.

In addition, you can still practice your bubble hash making skill and when you get it down, you can use your rosin press to press it into super-high quality rosin.

Right now. rosin wax made from bubble hash is the highest priced concentrate in the stores.
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thanks, I thought about doing that just so I can at least get some hash. I think I'll start there before my bubble bags come in, and then get going on those. good idea!
 
Bugeye

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Joint Monster said:
As far as helping you sleep, it more so depends on the strain that you run rather than the actual form that you take it in.

Concentrates like BHO/Wax/Shatter/Glass/LiveResin/Caviar are known to be much higher THC % 60-99%/ They're all different names for variations of the same thing, a cannabis concentrate. They have some differences in consistently, taste, medicinal strength.

Bubble Hash is usually a little lower, but still fairly high in THC %.

RSO is Rick Simpson oil. You can youtube that. It's what they give to cancer patients! (very potent, very pure, very effective, can be expensive)

You seem like a beginner, in which case I would suggest you stay away from making BHO like concentrates. Unless you plan on investing four figures for a closed loop system. Nooby's shouldn't open blast... really you just shouldn't open blast, period. If you don't know what I'm talking about - really do Not make BHO or Shatter or Wax. (it's goes KA-BOOM! when you don't know what you're doing!)

Bubble Hash can still be very effective for pain relief and sleep. (Again more dependent on the strain you run.) You can make bubble hash safely. I would start with a nice 5 or 6-bag set. I'd invest a quality brand like "Bubble Bag" brand bags (but that's just me).
(If you go to a dispensary, Hash's like Afghan, Black, Hindu, Moroccan tend to be more Indica Leaning, while Hash's like Blonde Hash tend to me a little more sativa leaning. At least from my experience.)

You can also look into making full melt bubble hash, which is more like Shatter/Wax. It's super nice, but harder to produce, takes more skill/practice.

Hope that helps! :)
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Why do you consider RSO to be pure? More like a dirty sludge of chlorophyll if you ask me.
 
blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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Joint Monster said:
As far as helping you sleep, it more so depends on the strain that you run rather than the actual form that you take it in.

Concentrates like BHO/Wax/Shatter/Glass/LiveResin/Caviar are known to be much higher THC % 60-99%/ They're all different names for variations of the same thing, a cannabis concentrate. They have some differences in consistently, taste, medicinal strength.

Bubble Hash is usually a little lower, but still fairly high in THC %.

RSO is Rick Simpson oil. You can youtube that. It's what they give to cancer patients! (very potent, very pure, very effective, can be expensive)

You seem like a beginner, in which case I would suggest you stay away from making BHO like concentrates. Unless you plan on investing four figures for a closed loop system. Nooby's shouldn't open blast... really you just shouldn't open blast, period. If you don't know what I'm talking about - really do Not make BHO or Shatter or Wax. (it's goes KA-BOOM! when you don't know what you're doing!)

Bubble Hash can still be very effective for pain relief and sleep. (Again more dependent on the strain you run.) You can make bubble hash safely. I would start with a nice 5 or 6-bag set. I'd invest a quality brand like "Bubble Bag" brand bags (but that's just me).
(If you go to a dispensary, Hash's like Afghan, Black, Hindu, Moroccan tend to be more Indica Leaning, while Hash's like Blonde Hash tend to me a little more sativa leaning. At least from my experience.)

You can also look into making full melt bubble hash, which is more like Shatter/Wax. It's super nice, but harder to produce, takes more skill/practice.

Hope that helps! :)
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Thinking about making bho in the bathroom of my buddies trailer in high school makes me wanna throw up.. :spew:

I have actual fear about what my kids will do in middle/high school :wall::wall:
 
Bugeye

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Susanne said:
Help! I originally looked up how to make hash over a year ago, and it looked a little difficult; now, it looks like the instructions on the forum are in Greek. I thought my main dilemma was which kind, and now I'm seeing SO many ways and new terms that aren't even in the slang dictionary, like: BHO, RSO, loop, etc. I'm so confused I don't know where to begin.
SO, for starters, I noticed that wax is much stronger. I've been using wax bought at dispensaries and it helps me sleep through the night. THAT is what I'm trying to do. Will bubble hash be strong enough for that? If so, I know it's safer to make.
Also, SO many instructions it makes my head spin. I know if I make bubble hash, I need to buy bubble bags, and some other stuff, but I've got to look it all up.
Any help will be greatly appreciated! I've been successful making tincture (boiling it down), so, I have experience there and with Cannabutter also. But, this looks much harder, and I need to get it done, as I only have about 2 weeks worth left.
Also, there are SO many bubble bags on Amazon, I have no idea which to buy. Some have little washers with them, too. Any suggestions there?


THANKS!
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Make some bubble hash and rosin press some of it. Then you can compare. It all works and is just a matter of how much you consume.
 
gwheels

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Or make bubble hash and press some flowers. I have made qwiso and rosin and a shit ton of coconut oil. For sleep coconut oil infused with indica is pretty hard to beat after some great sex....I sleep a solid 6 to 8 every night thanks to a willing participant and edibles.

Rosin tastes way better than qwiso and has no solvents. I find the yield is tricky but after making a weed puck press jig it is decent and close to qwiso with better tasting product.

But for sleep edibles win. In my less than humble opinion. And I usually put a teaspoon of oil in hot water every night at 8pm and by 10 its lights out.
 
Susanne

Susanne

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gwheels said:
Or make bubble hash and press some flowers. I have made qwiso and rosin and a shit ton of coconut oil. For sleep coconut oil infused with indica is pretty hard to beat after some great sex....I sleep a solid 6 to 8 every night thanks to a willing participant and edibles.

Rosin tastes way better than qwiso and has no solvents. I find the yield is tricky but after making a weed puck press jig it is decent and close to qwiso with better tasting product.

But for sleep edibles win. In my less than humble opinion. And I usually put a teaspoon of oil in hot water every night at 8pm and by 10 its lights out.
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Do you use a tincture recipe for your oil, or something stronger?
 
Susanne

Susanne

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Susanne said:
Do you use a tincture recipe for your oil, or something stronger?
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I use a tincture recipe that I reduce by 2/3 volume to make it stronger. I don't notice that it's strong, though. That's just me. I use it for nausea. Something about my illness has taken away the ability to feel the cannabis high; instead I just get stupid. However, I don't feel much with the tincture except it working to help the nausea. And, I use a strong recipe.....
Funny, as far as "strong" goes, I use the hash to sleep, but I've never smoked it when I stay awake, so I don't know how it really feels :p, except how my thinking reels when I go to sleep. Nothing else works like that!
 
Joint Monster

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tstick said:
I think the best answer for you, OP, is to get into quality ROSIN. Rosin making is relatively easy, involves NO solvent....AND can produce a superior wax.
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Ah that's a good point! Totally forgot about rosin haha! OP would still have to invest a fair bit to get a good rosin press for decent yields. But it is by far the safest alternative to BHO (butane).

Bugeye said:
Why do you consider RSO to be pure? More like a dirty sludge of chlorophyll if you ask me.
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Pure as in you end up with just what the plant in its entirety, everything the plant had. Mixed with alcohol, if the alcohol is completely boiled away it would be considered "pure", as is just cannabis.

Not pure as in THCA extract pure.

Susanne said:
I use a tincture recipe that I reduce by 2/3 volume to make it stronger. I don't notice that it's strong, though. That's just me. I use it for nausea. Something about my illness has taken away the ability to feel the cannabis high; instead I just get stupid. However, I don't feel much with the tincture except it working to help the nausea. And, I use a strong recipe.....
Funny, as far as "strong" goes, I use the hash to sleep, but I've never smoked it when I stay awake, so I don't know how it really feels :p, except how my thinking reels when I go to sleep. Nothing else works like that!
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Strong is perspective ;). If you do play around with dosages be careful, because it's easy to over-do it, and that's no fun either. Ramp it up marginally each time.

Keep trying different strains, eventually you will start to find preferences for certain ones.

Have you tried vaping? It can be really sleep inducing with the right strain! Hash too!
 
gwheels

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I just found a quarter pound of trim i forgot i had. Most of it is budlets and popcorn. And I have 2 cups of VG. So the house smells like decarbing weed and in about an hour (240F) its all going in the magical butter machine for 4 to 8 hours on low. I love finding a bunch of trim. Almost free edibles are my favorite :D
 
Susanne

Susanne

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@Joint Monster, thanks for your input. I'm going to try the Rosin first just to get something.

I do check my dosages on the tinctures each time I make a new batch, which I'll be doing today. I'll try a different strain than what I've used before.

Vaping....... what exactly do you mean? I vape my hash. I used vape pens that I bought, but other than that, no, I don't vape anything else. How do you vape regular cannabis? is that what you mean? I'm learning as much as I can with this old brain :D.
thanks again!
 
Joint Monster

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Susanne said:
@Joint Monster, thanks for your input. I'm going to try the Rosin first just to get something.

I do check my dosages on the tinctures each time I make a new batch, which I'll be doing today. I'll try a different strain than what I've used before.

Vaping....... what exactly do you mean? I vape my hash. I used vape pens that I bought, but other than that, no, I don't vape anything else. How do you vape regular cannabis? is that what you mean? I'm learning as much as I can with this old brain :D.
thanks again!
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Yeah, like a vaporizer for dry herb. I find the right strain in the volcano vaporizer can really put me to sleep! (Although the volcano is a pricer unit, it's well worth it. There are other options too!)
 
Susanne

Susanne

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Joint Monster said:
Yeah, like a vaporizer for dry herb. I find the right strain in the volcano vaporizer can really put me to sleep! (Although the volcano is a pricer unit, it's well worth it. There are other options too!)
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ok, here's a question. How does a vaporizer make dry herb stronger than just smoking it out of a pipe?.....and, for good measure, what strain helps you sleep?... if you don't mind :).
 
Joint Monster

Joint Monster

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Susanne said:
ok, here's a question. How does a vaporizer make dry herb stronger than just smoking it out of a pipe?.....and, for good measure, what strain helps you sleep?... if you don't mind :).
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I don't really know how.. But scientists have recently proven it lol.

I was thinking more from a perspective that smoking is not good, especially when trying to manage pain. It's quite different than vaping, but hard to explain.

Try different indica strains. Go buy like 1g of like 14 different strains. :P (Master Kush, Afghan, Northern Lights, Purple Kush, Tahoe Og, Dark Star, Purple Urkle, White Widow, ..just off the top of my head, a list of strains known to be heavy indica, pain relieving and sleep inducing)
 
Susanne

Susanne

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Joint Monster said:
I don't really know how.. But scientists have recently proven it lol.

I was thinking more from a perspective that smoking is not good, especially when trying to manage pain. It's quite different than vaping, but hard to explain.

Try different indica strains. Go buy like 1g of like 14 different strains. :P (Master Kush, Afghan, Northern Lights, Purple Kush, Tahoe Og, Dark Star, Purple Urkle, White Widow, ..just off the top of my head, a list of strains known to be heavy indica, pain relieving and sleep inducing)
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Wish I could just buy different strains..... I live in a state that hasn't legalized it yet, and can only get seeds and grow. From what I've found, I can only buy a minimum of 5 of each strain, so with my health, 10 plants are all I (and my helping husband, who doesn't use it) can handle. He does the heavy work, and I do the rest. But, that limits me to 2 strains a year. I did grow Afghan last year and have been using it in my tinctures. I buy what will help my symptoms. Unfortunately, AK 47 was supposed to help migraines, and now I find NO cannabis helps migraines,....darn. At least it's good for nausea, like all weed. This year, I grew Gold Leaf and Trainwreck. I didn't have much yield, but they're decent. Gold Leaf is Indica dominant, and I plan to make my hash from it.

Oh, and I agree about smoking. I cough a lot when I vape my hash and the few times I've vaped herb (I had forgotten that) at my sister's because we can't smoke there. I don't know why I cough so much when I do, though. It's supposed to be better. Now, if I make hash, I have to smoke it don't I, if it's not wax?
 
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