Breaking Into The Business

MidwestMike

Active Member
How hard do you think/know it is to break into the Marijuana business in California. I would love to open my own dispensary but then again it's hard to move half-a-country a way to take a chance. I will graduate next year with a business degree and let's just say I would love to see the business behind Marijuana.
 

kmog33

Well-Known Member
the game has definitely changes in california in the past few years theres a lot more home cultivators and such but theyre nonprofit so you work off a salary. i plan on opening a dispensary this year after outdoor harvest.
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
Yay, let's propogate absolutely ridiculously priced weed despite the technical legality of it. Whooooo for profit driven lifestyles. Wish people would use more of their experience and knowledge to get people growing for free than to make a big buck off them :(
 

Watusippin?

Member
Yay, let's propogate absolutely ridiculously priced weed despite the technical legality of it. Whooooo for profit driven lifestyles. Wish people would use more of their experience and knowledge to get people growing for free than to make a big buck off them :(
Not everyone has a trust fund to live off of..
 

incognegro999

Well-Known Member
Yay, let's propogate absolutely ridiculously priced weed despite the technical legality of it. Whooooo for profit driven lifestyles. Wish people would use more of their experience and knowledge to get people growing for free than to make a big buck off them :(
I Dont see the problem with providing Cannabis at a markup. Not everyone has the time or inclination to grow a supply, some people are just to busy to be bothered with it. Why shouldnt they be able to purchase some? Is there something wrong with the "Tip Top Toker cannibis emporium"?
 

incognegro999

Well-Known Member
To the OP if you figure it out let me know, I think it would be amazing to make a living doing something I enjoy so much, It wouldnt even be a job.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Have you considered other states that are just getting into the medical community? California and Colorado are over saturated have the hardest laws in the nation (as far as places that allow dispensaries) there are other states that are just getting into it and haven't had the flood yet.
Also i am pretty sure that there are a couple other states considering making medical legal.
 

MidwestMike

Active Member
Yay, let's propogate absolutely ridiculously priced weed despite the technical legality of it. Whooooo for profit driven lifestyles. Wish people would use more of their experience and knowledge to get people growing for free than to make a big buck off them :(
That's the opposite of what I wanted to do, now or ever, in any form of "dream" I've had. Do I need money to live? Yes. But that is not my "American Dream" like most. Honestly if I could have just enough to get by and give the rest to charity I would. "Live simply so others may simply live." But then again there is the Law of Supply and Demand. There IS a demand and it will be satisfied, at least I can help in a positive manner. That's one of the reason's I am looking at growing so I can provide top shelf pot at a fraction of the price, and after paying for my set-up costs, give the rest of the proceeds away.

I know the biggest thing with this plan is resisting greed. Easy? No. Can be done? Yes.
 

Jozikins

Well-Known Member
Yay, let's propogate absolutely ridiculously priced weed despite the technical legality of it. Whooooo for profit driven lifestyles. Wish people would use more of their experience and knowledge to get people growing for free than to make a big buck off them :(
That is ignorant and spiteful, as a patient I recognize the benefits dispensaries offer the local communities, and the state. Jobs for local growers, and taxes for the state. And of course, safe, consistent access to quality medication.

On another note, growing and opening a dispensary would be easiest in orange county our san diego county because of the leniency, but competition is force. This is just so cal though.
 

SCCA

Active Member
MidwestMike, unless you have incredible horticultural skills and about $100K start-up money, you are better off trying to find a medical state that is less overrun. dsm is right you missed the rush.
 

Watusippin?

Member
Because I live here.

There's a dispensary on every corner, and everyone and their mother is growing.
I know of a rather large in one of the most populated areas in california where there are only a couple dispensaries, one of them being closed off to new patients. If you could persuade the one of the cities to let you open one you'd be set.
 

MidwestMike

Active Member
I can't say I have crazy horticulture skills, but I can say I have a knack for business. In the end will Marijuana be legalized? Yes. Because its' medical properties? No. It will be legalized because sooner-or-later someone will throw enough money at our government leaders and then they will legalize it because of tax revenue. They don't care about MMJ patients in Washington, they have a hard enough time balancing their own budget (Yes, I know MMJ is legal in D.C. that's not the point). This is where they will look at pot. State and Federal Gov't spend about 40B/year trying to counter it, and another 40-100B would come in through taxes a year.

I've realized our government is corrupt and people can either sit there and pout about it, they can try to change it, or they can use it to correct an injustice. I'm not a political powerhouse, and I'm not one for sucking my thumb either....
 

medicalsb420

Active Member
legalization is a complicated issue, and not because of any moral hang up or even for reasons pertaining to the war on drugs... although both of those main issues do influence the debate. The issue is this; as it stands there is a huge demand for supply. the illegal aspects of marijuana horticulture provide the grey area for inflated price. So, the current price floor could only be maintained if the illegal aspects that promote the higher prices remains on the supply end. If marijuana, and the production/manufacturing of marijuana and related agents(hash,oil, tincture, etc.) were to become legitimized, it would flood the the supply lines which would lower demand(or at least ease the intensity of) and hence drop the price floor due to such prominent availabilty. If the price floor drops, and you introduce the costs of institutionalized regulation for our newly embraced national cash crop, there is no longer the bountiful profit incentive for legalization in the first place. In fact (and I've had my accountant do the numbers when I was still considering becoming involved) , it would cost to regulate (in california)- way overhead of any profit to be made by the state. So legalization would actually cost tax payer money. If it costs tax payer money, that means there is less money for our trusted representatives to "re-allocate" or better- steal. They already have a hard time stealing from us citizens due to california's deficient status quo, this would make it harder to scratch each others backs (in a nut shell). If it meant big money for the GOV, you better believe it would have been legal 50 yrs ago... but to our dismay, it would actually cost too much to legalize contrary to popular notions of creating a financial surplus. I feel if the GOV were to look past the profits of simply legalizing a substance, and see the retail potential of a marijuana friendly atmosphere, they would find the cash cow they are after in a new and vast marketplace that would cater to the giant "stoner" demographic. The profit is not in the weed, but in the products and businesses a weed friendly approach would create. Also remember, that the federal government stands strongly against any notions for legalization, so until marijuana enthusiasts can form a plan that would create profits that over ride the massive federal grant money allocated to california (which would terminate if we went legal), my prediction is we will never see a truly legal marketplace for the ganja. Also keep in mind that if it were to go legal, they would give out commercial contracts to the highest bidders, and protect those contracts by not allowing any competition from the smaller operations. Think about it- Vicoden is a legal drug right? what happens if you get caught manufacturing your own home made vicoden on a commercial scale? Your going to jail. same tactics will apply. They will not under any circumstances allow citizens to openly compete with the institutionalized market. The entire reason for removing marijuana from the medical remedy section in the first place was wide spread instability of marijuana based products, potency and quality was never consistent and too wide spread, no general dosage guidelines could be established at that time. They will use this as a reason for why you cant grow your own. The market would be dominated with the iron fist of wal mart. and my guess is some green earth bill would pass that claims growers to be too wasteful of power and water or some bullshit like that. I'm all for legalization, however basic economic theory contradicts the exponential financial predictions of most well-meaning enthusiasts. Like almost everything in government, it boils down to the bottom dollar, thats the sad and obvious truth. time to smoke a bole!
 

par09

Member
if looking to break into the biz then ur a little late becuzz biz gen. profit an there is no profit in mmj
 

MIway

Active Member
Ahhhh... he's squirming... undergrad (or post) biz degree (dime a dozen)... subsidized & unsub loans... this job market... the 'green' revolution... ;-)


Best bet is to break bad in a semi-legit market that is yet to blow up... or if you really want to pay back the loans... texas, florida, nyc... where illegality still directly supports the market. Grow a pair of balls... be avant-garde... to some degree. Coming late into the game isn't business savvy. Bahhh to Cali... bahhh to Co... bahhh
 

CatEyes420

Active Member
you either need to speak to a lawyer or look up all the MJ laws and understand them completely you need about 30-50k to start up and be in it for the cause, if you start fucking up and getting greedy or you dont watch your workers, cuz they might be selling on the side, the dea will get your ass cuz it is still breaking a federal law in some loop hole, the cops dont like it but if you run your shit legit they will leave you alone and security is a huge huge must, especially in cali.

heres some sites i found that gave me some info


https://medicalmarijuanaeducationandtraining.com/FAQ.html

http://canorml.org/

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/



a brief of the cali laws im sure if you look you could find something better

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Bill_420

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_215_(1996)
 
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