Bml or illumitex

Growmau5 said:

@Greengenes707

My BML must be actively cooled by unicorn farts, because the heat sinks are running 88F at the edges, 92F at the center of the bar. Readings taken with a harbor freight laser thermometer. I know it can be dicey taking readings from reflective surfaces in this manner, so if anyone has a suggestion on measuring temps of heat sinks, I'd be happy to remeasure and post a picture.

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Slap some black electrical tape on the heat sink and make sure you're taking your readings from there. Those digital spot radiometers assume emissivity of 0.95, which means that reflectivity is only 5%, leading to extreme probability of error when dealing with aluminum. Electrical tape has emissivity of 0.95 and conducts heat very efficiently so you are looking at the temperature of whatever it is applied to.

Jetty Rat said:

Slap some black electrical tape on the heat sink and make sure you're taking your readings from there. Those digital spot radiometers assume emissivity of 0.95, which means that reflectivity is only 5%, leading to extreme probability of error when dealing with aluminum. Electrical tape has emissivity of 0.95 and conducts heat very efficiently so you are looking at the temperature of whatever it is applied to.

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let me hop in my time machine and go back a year and do tha, lol

and oh btw the new Fluence appears to be lapping illumitex with their latest offerings.

Growmau5 said:

let me hop in my time machine and go back a year and do tha, lol

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Damn, bro, if you got a time machine I'm surprised you're still messing around with LEDs and internet forums. Shouldn't you be off getting all Marty McFly and shit?

Oh, hey, that reminds me, if you're making a round trip to late 2017 any time soon will you grab me a few dozen of those discontinued $10 CXB3590's? Thanks.

Jetty Rat said:

Damn, bro, if you got a time machine I'm surprised you're still messing around with LEDs and internet forums. Shouldn't you be off getting all Marty McFly and shit?

Oh, hey, that reminds me, if you're making a round trip to late 2017 any time soon will you grab me a few dozen of those discontinued $10 CXB3590's? Thanks.

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hell ya dude. fuck the lotto and sports bets. I want dem cheap CXBzzzz.

Illumitex is way to go ,i have 12 of them ,and they will grow some dense big bud ,no doubt here . Also i run one room last summer only illumitex and diy leds ( CXA3590 ) ,and i don't even use AC ,only lot of wall fans ,and good intake and exhaust air . But they littile on expensive side .I think around 1200 or 1300 hundred right now on them website .

stock said:

Illumitex is way to go ,i have 12 of them ,and they will grow some dense big bud ,no doubt here . Also i run one room last summer only illumitex and diy leds ( CXA3590 ) ,and i don't even use AC ,only lot of wall fans ,and good intake and exhaust air . But they littile on expensive side .I think around 1200 or 1300 hundred right now on them website .

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respectfully man, your anecdotal recommendation doesn't mean much to us around here. it is well documented that the Surexi chips used in Illumtex fixtures are just not very efficient. over 20% lower than what you can get with DIY builds. I would have to strongly disagree with this statement.

stock said:

Illumitex is way to go ,

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I am sure you are growing great bud. But buying an Illumitex today would be like shopping for super cars and ending up with a 1988 Testerossa

stock said:

Illumitex is way to go ,i have 12 of them ,and they will grow some dense big bud ,no doubt here . Also i run one room last summer only illumitex and diy leds ( CXA3590 ) ,and i don't even use AC ,only lot of wall fans ,and good intake and exhaust air . But they littile on expensive side .I think around 1200 or 1300 hundred right now on them website .

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I appreciate your input. Thanks for sharing. It's always great to hear what works for different people. Glad the illumitex are working out for you.

Growmau5 said:

respectfully man, your anecdotal recommendation doesn't mean much to us around here. it is well documented that the Surexi chips used in Illumitex fixtures are just not very efficient. over 20% lower than what you can get with DIY builds. I would have to strongly disagree with this statement.

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Just like how you have a BML...he has illumitex. And just like you like the BML results respectively...I think it is the same for him.
As far as him being a cool kid with DIY...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/xxxl-hood-with-cxa3070.858240/
He's more than covered and knows what's up

If anyone is getting anything from bml/fluence...it better be a vypr.

Greengenes707 said:

Just like how you have a BML...he has illumitex. And just like you like the BML results respectively...I think it is the same for him.
As far as him being a cool kid with DIY...
https://www.rollitup.org/t/xxxl-hood-with-cxa3070.858240/
He's more than covered and knows what's up

If anyone is getting anything from bml/fluence...it better be a vypr.

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love to test one of the new vypr, looks great on paper almost as efficient as a DIY cob light.

currently not happy with my neosol, good light but with a bunch of buts

- efficiency could be a lot better (still better than hid or the cheap china mono leds)
- weighs way too much, hard for one person to hang.
- primary warm light is a 660nm narrow peak, I'm finding plants grow better with a big wide fat peak from 590-660.


maybe I can DIY something like the vypr ?

If i am going to buy lights today it will look like this :
1.PLC leds ( good price for ready to go fixture )
2. DIY leds ( i can play with custom sizes to fit my grow rooms )
3. Illumitex Neo Sol 520
Somehow Ilumitex is lacking in vegging stage compare to cree cobs ( at least in my observation ) ,flower no problem
And reason why Illumitex was better option for me that time ,because i can get credit from local power company ,i am commercial grower in WA state I502 ,and for all lights to get them qualified for credit they must be UL rated . If GG make his lights UL rated ,he will sell bunch of them in WA state for sure ,if people want to apply for credit .
I don't try claim anything ,i just try to share my experience to help fellow growers ,and i don't associate with PLC company ,just speaking my opinion .

@stock my bad dude, i hadnt seen your DIY work. very nice indeed. keep it up man.

men i wish i can get more time to build something ,but i am so busy to try run 3000sf indoor facility at my farm ,and now we plan to extract 3 greenhouse with light dep ,so it is no really any time to do any diy stuff anymore ,unfortunately. But i still need 20-30 more lights ,so i guess i may have comeback to diy leds sometimes this spring or summer . What is good about leds ,i don't have to use any air conditioner at summer time ,so it saves me shit load money ,just need lot of wall fans and intake and exhaust .

AquariusPanta said:

@awil7698

Check out heavenbright.com when you get the time.

I'll have some photos (and possibly a video) of the Model-V 4-Series uploaded in the next day or two.

Keep frosty!

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I have been reading forum after forum on lighting for more than a year now, and I think I am going to try "The Mothership" or the PLC LED . The Spydr1200 and Illumitex both look good, but I think I will do a side-by-side at a later date. It seems as though most people like flowering under 3500k. My question is, what type of lights do you veg under? The same fixture with 4000k bulbs? T5s? Induction maybe?

Folks, There's a new Sheriff in town. Please check out The Icarus Gi from Bios. Full Spectrum, Heat sink cooling, UL rated, completed Waterproof, Commercial grade... no more DIY

Dokter Ray said:

Folks, There's a new Sheriff in town. Please check out The Icarus Gi from Bios. Full Spectrum, Heat sink cooling, UL rated, completed Waterproof, Commercial grade... no more DIY

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you couldn't pay me to grow with that spectrum. almost identical to the illumitex, which stresses plants out because of the overextended 660nm peak.

Why are you pushing this light? Usually advertisers around here have to Pay to advertise.

PurpleBuz said:

you couldn't pay me to grow with that spectrum. almost identical to the illumitex, which stresses plants out because of the overextended 660nm peak.

Why are you pushing this light? Usually advertisers around here have to Pay to advertise.

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Dokter Ray said:

Folks, There's a new Sheriff in town. Please check out The Icarus Gi from Bios. Full Spectrum, Heat sink cooling, UL rated, completed Waterproof, Commercial grade... no more DIY

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I think the Bios Icurus is a bad-ass light. Was considering it 9 months ago.
The owner offers a cool deal to only lay a portion down & if you don't like the lights you can return them for your money back.
Almost tried them.
Their as good as Vivid-grow but better n bigger.

Oh, I'd get Fluence all day over Illumitex.
The bios Icurus needs to be updated.
Unless you're taking about a new one?