Birthing Cakes or leaving in jars

SirLancelot

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Ok so I have two books and one says dunk and roll, the other says just take off the lid and put it in the chamber. They both claim to be the Updated Tek. SO which should I believe?
 
leave it in the jar?what?dont do that. either you birth the cake straight into your fruiting chamber, or you birth it and dunk and roll..both will work.
 
The Chronik Tek can be used, you can move it into an altered quart jar as like a mini-terrarium...
 
Like Desr said if you leave it in the jar then it won't fruit. The glass will prevent the mushrooms from forming because they won't be able to break through the glass. That is why you remove the cake when the mycelium
is fully formed.

The shroomery explains what dunk and roll is all about.

http://www.shroomery.org/5188/What-is-Dunk-and-Roll
This is in no way meant to take the place of casing but it can help cakes put out a little more for those who don't want to case or are just starting out.

Take a fully colonized cake and do a dunk before birthing. When done dunking simply roll the cake in dry vermiculite, or coco coir. Use a mister and mist the dry vermiculite or coir till it's moist.

This allows the cake to fruit from all sides a little easier.

There is also a good explanation of why advanced growers do casing despite the difficulties that can arise.
http://www.shroomery.org/33/The-Importance-of-a-Great-Casing-Yebo
ShroomGod said:
Why is a great casing so important? In a word, YIELD! Straw trays can fruit up to 180 dry grams per square foot given a great casing, yet the same tray without a good casing will produce 20 dry grams per square foot or even less!

Don't worry about casing until you have the basics down. Once you are confident with dunked cakes you can worry about the more advanced stuff.

edit: I did not know about the Chronik Tek.
 
Like Desr said if you leave it in the jar then it won't fruit. The glass will prevent the mushrooms from forming because they won't be able to break through the glass. That is why you remove the cake when the mycelium
is fully formed.

The shroomery explains what dunk and roll is all about.

http://www.shroomery.org/5188/What-is-Dunk-and-Roll


There is also a good explanation of why advanced growers do casing despite the difficulties that can arise.
http://www.shroomery.org/33/The-Importance-of-a-Great-Casing-Yebo


Don't worry about casing until you have the basics down. Once you are confident with dunked cakes you can worry about the more advanced stuff.

edit: I did not know about the Chronik Tek.

http://files.shroomery.org/cms/6597110-chronictek.pdf
 
thanks for the input guys, but the way it's illustrated in the book is, after the cakes have fully colonized you just remove the lid and put in the fruiting chamber Wrap duct tape or something around the sides so nothing is exposed to light except for the top. Supposedly (whoever it's spelled) they have only growth on the top where the jar is open. THey claim bigger mushrooms and more flushes as well as less humidity needed as it creates it's own micro-climate. I am very hesitant on this way since NO ONE has seemed to heard of it...

Although I guess now is a great time to just do an experiment, Leave some cakes in and others out and see what happens.

I wish I would have never done PF tek to begin with...
 
thanks for the input guys, but the way it's illustrated in the book is, after the cakes have fully colonized you just remove the lid and put in the fruiting chamber Wrap duct tape or something around the sides so nothing is exposed to light except for the top. Supposedly (whoever it's spelled) they have only growth on the top where the jar is open. THey claim bigger mushrooms and more flushes as well as less humidity needed as it creates it's own micro-climate. I am very hesitant on this way since NO ONE has seemed to heard of it...

Although I guess now is a great time to just do an experiment, Leave some cakes in and others out and see what happens.

I wish I would have never done PF tek to begin with...

I've never heard of that before...
 
Thats what I'm thinking, I am a little taken that this method was actually published in a book: Psilocybin Mushroom Handbook by L.G. Nicholas and Kerry Ogame. and no one has heard of it and I can't seem to find much info on it. So im with ya and I'll probably leave it alone.
 
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