Better Hydroponic Nutrients

hooked.on.ponics

hooked.on.ponics

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Here's how I see it:

If you don't have your basics worked out - temp, light, humidity, etc - you're not going to see impressive yields no matter what you pour in the res.

And if you've got everything but nutrients nailed down 100% perfect you're going to grow pretty well no matter what you use for nutrients. Well, as long as your nutes aren't complete crap. I mean if you're just filling your res with urine or something you're gonna have trouble.


In my experience you'll always get more using better nutes, but when everything else is right the difference becomes obvious. I'm really curious about the new stuff AN is putting out.
 
holmes

holmes

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brother, i have never read a post from you that did not involve how bomb AN is.
do you sell their stuff?

what is your experience like with connie?
 
Aztros

Aztros

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hooked.on.ponics said:
The molasses works great in soil, but it's dangerous in hydroponics so I just can't go that route myself.
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Two words Sugar Daddy... I was interested in making my buds sweeter both in smell and taste so I did some research. Everyone kept barking molasses at me over and over again. Being that I am doing flood and drain rockwool, I know molasses would have been the wrong path to take. I talked to my hydro guy and he introduced me to Sugar Daddy. It's like molasses for hydro setups. My buds which were already pretty impressive, got so much sweeter. I've even heard that you can flush with just the Sugar Daddy and phd water, though I've never tried this myself. Anyway, there is my two sense. This is a great thread and will be used in the future as a good reference for me.

Everything I use:

1. Aquaflakes A&B Components
2. BN / NPK / 0 - 13 - 14
3. Bloombastic (AMAZING!!! Expensive, but AMAZING!) Won all major awards in Europe.
4. Sugar Daddy

Any suggestions any of you might have as to things I could change or add to the mix would be appreciated. You've all been a huge help, hope I was the same. Take care and happy growing!
 
Kant

Kant

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Aztros said:
Two words Sugar Daddy... I was interested in making my buds sweeter both in smell and taste so I did some research. Everyone kept barking molasses at me over and over again. Being that I am doing flood and drain rockwool, I know molasses would have been the wrong path to take. I talked to my hydro guy and he introduced me to Sugar Daddy. It's like molasses for hydro setups. My buds which were already pretty impressive, got so much sweeter. I've even heard that you can flush with just the Sugar Daddy and phd water, though I've never tried this myself. Anyway, there is my two sense. This is a great thread and will be used in the future as a good reference for me.

Everything I use:

1. Aquaflakes A&B Components
2. BN / NPK / 0 - 13 - 14
3. Bloombastic (AMAZING!!! Expensive, but AMAZING!) Won all major awards in Europe.
4. Sugar Daddy

Any suggestions any of you might have as to things I could change or add to the mix would be appreciated. You've all been a huge help, hope I was the same. Take care and happy growing!
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So i'm not sure if they are the samething but technaflora make a thing called sugar daddy that kicks major ass.

Actually technaflora's entire line of hydro nutes are really effective. they also are really stable as far as ph and nut balance is concerned.

here's a link to the stuff I use:
http://www.technaflora.com/products.php?product=20

they actually now have a organic line of hydro nutes.
 
holmes

holmes

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Two words Sugar Daddy... I was interested in making my buds sweeter both in smell and taste /QUOTE]

i dont understand when people here talk about sweeting there buds
what i do understand ( at least i think i do) is that any form of glucose does not get abosorbed by the roots, its there to feed bacteria only.
so how in a hydro setup, with no bugs, does adding sugar "sweeten buds"
can someone explain to me, how adding sugar can make it taste sweet?
i mean your smoking the dope you know, your not eating it with a glass of milk or coffee
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Mr. Skunk

Mr. Skunk

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holmes said:
Two words Sugar Daddy... I was interested in making my buds sweeter both in smell and taste /QUOTE]

i dont understand when people here talk about sweeting there buds
what i do understand ( at least i think i do) is that any form of glucose does not get abosorbed by the roots, its there to feed bacteria only.
so how in a hydro setup, with no bugs, does adding sugar "sweeten buds"
can someone explain to me, how adding sugar can make it taste sweet?
i mean your smoking the dope you know, your not eating it with a glass of milk or coffee
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You make a good point if you're info is correct. I use sweetleaf from AN but have never grown without it.
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holmes

holmes

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Aztros

what has bloombastic done for you to call it "amazing"
im interested to pick one up
 
Aztros

Aztros

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holmes said:
Aztros

what has bloombastic done for you to call it "amazing"
im interested to pick one up
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Well, my buds have always had a glisten to em... I was hesitant to try it at first, but my shop here in town was giving loyal customer free samples when it first came out. It was just enough for the whole second month of flowering. I didn't think it was possible, but when comparing pictures... sure my previously grown bud was covered in crystals, but this bud once it was finished just blew me away. There were so many crystals you couldn't even see green in some areas. My shit looks better than stuff you would see in high times. Ask your grow shop if you can try a sample... couldn't hurt. I mean the shit is $200.00 and I definitely wouldn't have bought it if I hadn't gotten a sample first. Glad I did though, good luck.
 
Aztros

Aztros

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holmes said:
Two words Sugar Daddy... I was interested in making my buds sweeter both in smell and taste /QUOTE]

i dont understand when people here talk about sweeting there buds
what i do understand ( at least i think i do) is that any form of glucose does not get abosorbed by the roots, its there to feed bacteria only.
so how in a hydro setup, with no bugs, does adding sugar "sweeten buds"
can someone explain to me, how adding sugar can make it taste sweet?
i mean your smoking the dope you know, your not eating it with a glass of milk or coffee
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I'm not sure at all man... All I know is that since I've used Sugar Daddy, my buds have become more potent and genuinely diverse in taste. When I say sweet thats exactly what I mean. I grew some sweet tooth then got ahold of this product and grew it again... damn man. It was like a completely different taste, so much more refined than before.
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holmes

holmes

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anyone else using a sweetener that can describe what the difference in smoke "taste" like
im thinking its a very subtle difference, i probably wont even notice, its like wine...people swear on wines with certain characteristics, but when i try it, it still taste like shit to me
 
Aztros

Aztros

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holmes said:
anyone else using a sweetener that can describe what the difference in smoke "taste" like
im thinking its a very subtle difference, i probably wont even notice, its like wine...people swear on wines with certain characteristics, but when i try it, it still taste like shit to me
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It is a lot like wine... You definitely have to develop your pallat for weed. It will come with time. You probably can already tell the difference in tasts and what not, you might just not care cause your going to the abyss anyway right!?!? bongsmilie
 
holmes

holmes

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thats for certain

good luck to you brother, i hope you find a recipe for the most delicious tasting dank you could hope for.

when you use bloombastic do you add other flowering stimulators?, and at what rate do you apply it
 
Aztros

Aztros

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holmes said:
thats for certain

good luck to you brother, i hope you find a recipe for the most delicious tasting dank you could hope for.

when you use bloombastic do you add other flowering stimulators?, and at what rate do you apply it
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Me too man, me too. If I find it, you better believe I'll throw it your way. ;)

I'm not too sure about adding additional flowering stimulants, I'll ask my guy and get back to you on that one. As for the application rate, I have a 35 gallon reservoirs. I start out the first 3 weeks at 1.5oz, then bump it to 3.0oz at week 4-6 and finish out however long the rest of the flowering time is with 4.5 oz each reservoir change up until my flush. If you decide to go with it, try to remember me and let me know what you think in a couple months :weed:

Take care man and be safe!
 
holmes

holmes

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hello aztros

i cant find anywhere how much 1ml per liter of the bling bling will raise the ppm

anyone out there using dutch master gold?
 
hooked.on.ponics

hooked.on.ponics

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holmes said:
brother, i have never read a post from you that did not involve how bomb AN is.
do you sell their stuff?

what is your experience like with connie?
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Yeah, I'm a bit of a cheerleader when it comes to AN, it's just cause it makes such a difference in my grows. Maybe I'm a nute snob, but I think the buds speak for themselves. I think of AN as my secret ingredient - I talk about it a lot here but I keep it a secret otherwise cause I want to always be the guy with the best bud around.

I don't sell their stuff or anything, I'm just a big fan. I even snuck their logo into my avatar. That just how much I like their nutes.

Conni is just plain awesome stuff. It's as simple as that. I don't really know how to explain it, but the way I think of it is like this. If you were to picture your ideal MJ plant, then take that plant and run it through a blender and get it completely liquified, and then pump that into an IV into another plant, that's kind of what Conni does.

It's like weed squared. I'm not saying it's made of ground up plants or anything cause that's silly and it wouldn't work anyway. What I mean is that the plants I grow with it seem just way "more" alive, vital, like they're concentrated somehow.

See, I said I was a bit of a cheerleader...
 
holmes

holmes

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its not the price tag of the conni that turns me off, but that fact that i have read that it came in bad batches, that the B bottle has a tendancy to solidify. that just doesnt makes sense, your paying double for the best and for it to come fucked up turns me off.
i asked a AN seller, and he said that it is common for "floaties" in the bottles, but assured me that he tried it and worked just fine.
i dont know
 
hooked.on.ponics

hooked.on.ponics

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holmes said:
its not the price tag of the conni that turns me off, but that fact that i have read that it came in bad batches
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I've read a lot of stuff. Doesn't make it true.

All I can say is that I've never had any trouble with it and I don't know anyone who has. There's people who seem to spend a lot of their time trying to convince people that Advanced Nutrients is bad in some way. Since I've had not a single negative experience with their stuff I'm suspicious of the accuracy of the naysayers claims.
 
holmes

holmes

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yes that is true
but i also said that i emailed the discount advanced nutrients website
they said it is common for floaties in the bottles

the salts are solidifying or something, and that just aint kool if you paying top dollar for the best.
eventually ill get a small quantity and give it a try

mr.skunk.......connie is an A & B ultra premium flowering nutrient from advanced nutrients, it cost something like 80$ a liter. the nutes are chelated witch makes them more readily available.

hooked on ponics, do you know when adavanced new line will be out, the one that self ph's and ppm's itself?
 
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