BEST TOP NEWS STORY ~Mosaic Virus in Cannabis~

hexthat

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"this took a long time to do.....hope some of you appreciate it



It appears some of you are in the dark or unable to grasp the concept that this Mosaic virus which is kicking many asses out there in the cannabis realm is real!


Doing some research into the fact that this was the first virus ever discovered in the 19th century and yes it's still alive and kicking today,,,being spread around from grow to grow simply because so many numbskulls want to remain stupid!


It is easy to distinguish from ph swings and nute deficiencies and insect damage, but yet many continue to breed sick plants and spread the disease to others via seed stock,or infected cuts..


Failure to learn the symptoms will result in a widespread and wholesale spread of this nasty ass disease...


All this was copied and pasted from a few different links, hope you enjoy.



Here is some details about it for starters..


Tobacco Mosaic Virus

Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) has been at the center of virus research since its discovery over a hundred years ago. TMV was the first virus to be discovered. Late in the 19th century, researchers found that a tiny infectious agent, too small to be a bacterium, was the cause of a disease of tobacco plants. It then took 30 years of work before the nature of this mysterious agent became apparent. In a Nobel-prize-winning study, Wendell Stanley coaxed the virus to form crystals, and discovered that it was composed primarily of protein. Others quickly discovered that there was also RNA in the virus. Then, many prominent structural researchers (including J. D. Bernal, Rosalind Franklin, Ken Holmes, Aaron Klug, Don Caspar, and Gerald Stubbs) used X-ray diffraction and electron microscopy to probe the structure of the virus.
A Helical Virus

Several structures of the whole tobacco mosaic virus are available in the PDB, including the ground-breaking one solved by X-ray fiber diffraction (shown here from PDB entry 2tmv), and a recent structure solved by analysis of many electron micrographs (PDB entry 2om3). The virus is composed of one strand of RNA (shown in red) wrapped inside a sheath of protein (shown in blue). The protein coat is composed of about 2130 copies of a small protein, which stack like bricks in a cylindrical chimney. The RNA strand encodes four proteins, which together orchestrate the life cycle of the virus. These include two proteins that replicate the viral RNA, a protein that transports the RNA from cell to cell, spreading the infection, and the capsid protein seen in the PDB structures.
TMV Infection

Tobacco mosaic virus is very stable, so stable that it can survive for years in cigars and cigarettes made from infected leaves. The viral RNA is infectious by itself, but the addition of a protein coat protects the RNA from enzymes that would destroy it. The protein coat poses a problem, however: it must be removed once the virus gets inside a cell. TMV uses two tricks to release its RNA. As with many viruses, TMV has a chemical switch that causes the protein to change when the environment changes. The capsid protein has several clusters of acidic amino acids that are stable outside of cells, where calcium levels are high, but repel one another in the low-calcium conditions inside cells. This is enough to loosen the first few capsid proteins, releasing the end of the RNA. TMV then uses ribosomes as the engines to finish the job. As the ribosomes move down the strand, creating the first set of virus proteins, they displace the remaining capsid proteins.



Many times it will appear the plant is healthy to the untrained eye..." - forum.grasscity.com

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I'm still in shock as to how many idiots are here in disbelief.
 

hexthat

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This virus is cross species a tomato strain can give it to okra plant, smoke from tobacco products is the #1 cause of infection.
 

Laney

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Thanks for posting. This is not uncommon in roses and some other plants. I didn't realize cannabis was affected. In roses, it's not considered particularly "contagious" and is spread through grafting. What's the mechanism of transmission in cannabis? I see you answered that in your next post, lol - just don't smoke around your plants, I guess :)
 

boombats

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  • "this took a long time to do.....hope some of you appreciate it"

    Copy Paste? I appreciate it and all but this is a dead horse and not such a problem to hobby growers which feed off this site.....

    I could create this identical copy/paste post in under 45 seconds just throwing that out there





 

hexthat

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  • "this took a long time to do.....hope some of you appreciate it"

    Copy Paste? I appreciate it and all but this is a dead horse and not such a problem to hobby growers which feed off this site.....

    I could create this identical copy/paste post in under 45 seconds just throwing that out there



that was part of the copy and past LMFAO
 

hexthat

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Here are some pics of this "Begomovirus" AKA mosaic virus


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okra post.jpgokra pre.jpgOKRA
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pepper post.jpgpepper pre.jpgPEPPER
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squash post.jpgsquash pre.jpgSQUASH
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missnu

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TMV doesn't affect cannabis or anything outside of the Solanaceae family of plants...which is why tomatoes, and potatoes, and bell peppers get it...but not cannabis...
 

missnu

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there it is on tomatoes and tobacco..but your MJ can not have it...as it only affects members of the Solanaceae family, which cannabis is not a part of...
 

hexthat

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TMV doesn't affect cannabis or anything outside of the Solanaceae family of plants...which is why tomatoes, and potatoes, and bell peppers get it...but not cannabis...
how did you come up with that? and btw your full of shit Convolvulaceae can get it as well as many other familys
 

missnu

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Show me where you found that it affects more than that family...

Here is a little of my proof though...


The tobacco mosaic virus attacks
plants in the families that include tomato,
pepper, eggplant, tobacco, spinach, petunia, and marigold.

That is from MSU...

Wikipedia says all of these plants are affected by it...

Datura, Mandragora (mandrake), Atropa belladonna (deadly nightshade), Lycium barbarum (wolfberry), Physalis philadelphica (tomatillo) , Physalis peruviana (Cape gooseberry flower), Capsicum (chili pepper, bell pepper), Solanum (potato,tomato, eggplant), Nicotiana (tobacco), and Petunia

Those are also just the other members of the Solanacaea family.
 

missnu

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People getting online and finding a picture of TMV on a tobacco plant and then running in and saying oh shit! My cannabis must have TMV because the pictures looked the same...well some things don't cross over all willy nilly...
All it took was one idiot to post it, and a bunch of other idiots to say oh yeah, I've had it, or I had a friend get it...

No they didn't...Because it isn't possible...

Just because we smoke tobacco, and also smoke cannabis, they are not the same plant, or even in the same family...

you are continuing the spread on a terrible internet rumor, "may God have mercy on your soil"
 

missnu

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So there! Ha! What now???

Huh?

Lol?



Huh?


Nah just kidding...but for real stop spreading this bullshit around...it is possible that your bell peppers, and what not get it, but it isn't possible for cannabis to get it...

There are a whole generation of people that think Green Day did the song Closing Time, that is actually done by Semisonic, anyway anyone that used the internet to look up that song for like 3 years got the wrong answer..because some douchebag put it on the internet like fact...It isn't cool to keep spreading untruths...

So it is time for this one to stop...

A lot of rumors get started on these pot forums...here is my issue...it is so easy to find the real answer....It is laughable how many people on these forums hear about something, and without ever looking it up for themselves go saying it on another forum, and people there believe it to...and it just gets crazy, because there are more people that are wrong than people that are right with a lot of these...til you shoot them the google page...

And that thing you put up was just a description of TMV...it doesn't say anywhere that it affects Cannabis...Because TMV CAN NOT AFFECT CANNABIS so cut this bullshit out right now.
 

hexthat

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Show me where you found that it affects more than that family...

Here is a little of my proof though...


The tobacco mosaic virus attacks
plants in the families that include tomato,
pepper, eggplant, tobacco, spinach, petunia, and marigold.

That is from MSU...

Wikipedia says all of these plants are affected by it...

Datura, Mandragora (mandrake), Atropa belladonna (deadly nightshade), Lycium barbarum (wolfberry), Physalis philadelphica (tomatillo) , Physalis peruviana (Cape gooseberry flower), Capsicum (chili pepper, bell pepper), Solanum (potato,tomato, eggplant), Nicotiana (tobacco), and Petunia

Those are also just the other members of the Solanacaea family.
sweet potato is part of the Convolvulaceae family, discredit that post
 

hexthat

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People getting online and finding a picture of TMV on a tobacco plant and then running in and saying oh shit! My cannabis must have TMV because the pictures looked the same...well some things don't cross over all willy nilly...
All it took was one idiot to post it, and a bunch of other idiots to say oh yeah, I've had it, or I had a friend get it...

No they didn't...Because it isn't possible...

Just because we smoke tobacco, and also smoke cannabis, they are not the same plant, or even in the same family...

you are continuing the spread on a terrible internet rumor, "may God have mercy on your soil"
i had hydro bob's friend tell me i had it. i never even heard of it before then. i was like all of you at first but then i guess my brain cells started working again... probably after i put the bong down.

R.I.P. hydro bob.... he should have had a gun
 

hexthat

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So there! Ha! What now???

Huh?

Lol?



Huh?


Nah just kidding...but for real stop spreading this bullshit around...it is possible that your bell peppers, and what not get it, but it isn't possible for cannabis to get it...

There are a whole generation of people that think Green Day did the song Closing Time, that is actually done by Semisonic, anyway anyone that used the internet to look up that song for like 3 years got the wrong answer..because some douchebag put it on the internet like fact...It isn't cool to keep spreading untruths...

So it is time for this one to stop...

A lot of rumors get started on these pot forums...here is my issue...it is so easy to find the real answer....It is laughable how many people on these forums hear about something, and without ever looking it up for themselves go saying it on another forum, and people there believe it to...and it just gets crazy, because there are more people that are wrong than people that are right with a lot of these...til you shoot them the google page...

And that thing you put up was just a description of TMV...it doesn't say anywhere that it affects Cannabis...Because TMV CAN NOT AFFECT CANNABIS so cut this bullshit out right now.
I think your brain is malfunctioning.... try not to say things are not true unless you have some proof.... everyone saying its not true well lets see it where are the lab studies showing that cannabis cant get it????? proof is for the mind in a box
 
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