Best Organic Nutrients?

i would like to try bmo, but they sell them in small batches, and the application rate is too high. i read somewhere here that soon they will make it more concentrated, maybe they will bottle them bigger too.

are the additives considered organic?, sorry, i am talking about fox farm
 
holmes said:
i would like to try bmo, but they sell them in small batches, and the application rate is too high. i read somewhere here that soon they will make it more concentrated, maybe they will bottle them bigger too.

are the additives considered organic?, sorry, i am talking about fox farm
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If you use the Super Plant Tonic with the BMO line, you can use less of the other nutes or you could run the risk of burning your plants. A bottle should last you a couple grows (pending on how many plants you have, of course). I'd still recommend it to you.

Also, no, the ONLY fox farm fert that is 100% organic is Big Bloom (great for a mid-grow flush, as it doesn't have much NPK). No other Fox Farm Liquid Fert is organic.
 
if im growing in 5 gallon or 3 gallon growbags, how many tablespoons of the grow it green will i need to add to my water?? and how often do you feed in vegging? what molasses brand does everyone use??
 
I just went shopping again. I heard that my pure blend pro was not complete organic, just based. IDK if that is true but while I read good clean things I could not find their certifacation.

so I went with bio bizz grow and bloom. It is certified organic in the us and the uk! right now you can get it half price on ebay.

I saw the BMO and I am sure that is organic, after all they got brewed dates and I think ti is like a tea? So they are my next choice along with humbolt nutes. they use that alaskan peat moss that I have read is amazing stuff,;)
 
gjdubbz said:
if im growing in 5 gallon or 3 gallon growbags, how many tablespoons of the grow it green will i need to add to my water?? and how often do you feed in vegging? what molasses brand does everyone use??
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A half ounce per gallon of water is the recommended dose. Start out with a very small dose at first, then work your way up to a full dose. So it depends on how much water your plants will hold. Leave a little run off in the bottom, and the plant will absorb it in a few hours.

You should feed your plants once a week, during all stages of growth. All other waterings should not have nutes in it. Don't wanna over feed them.

Blackstrap Molasses seems to be the most common brand to use. It contains Iron, Calcium, & other carbs to help feed the soil, there by feeding the plants. Feed the soil, not the plant!:eyesmoke:
 
i got castings, billy's perfect fertilizer 5-6-6 synthed. from a bunch of good shit, like kelp and guano and micro nute blast. no NPK
 
i just read about a guy using a micro tea ..for lack of a better term that is what ill use..it is in this months high times.his buds looked dank.the plant he was growing was called grape ape
well anyhow i set myself up one.
a five gallon bucket.i threw a bunch of worm castings into it after putting four gallons of watter in it.i think about 4 cups of worm castings.then three cups of microrize .some piranaha from AN. some voodoo juice from AN.i threw a couple of cups of dolomite lime into the mix.some sensizyme .some hygrozyme.although i dont know why.but what the hell.im zymeing everying ..the article says to throw a couple of cups of non treated sugar into the mix.i threw some carbo load into it.i just started this treatment and every watering will get the beasties.
the voodooo juice is expensive.but you should see the results.so long as you keep the bucket toped off with water and fed with carbohydrates i would think.your biological colony of good beasties could last forever.the larger the root system the larger the plant and larger the yeild .
so what does anyone else think?
 
i'm not too experienced. i researched all that shit and got what i needed for what i could pay. i've got some Monty's Grow Juice growth formula from the last grow. but i had nothing else PK wise and saw some shitty over nitrogen results ''the claw'' burn..... so i got the 5-6-6 and the micro-nutrient to add as a suppliment. i want to go completely organic but guano was too rich in nutes... i need some perlite and sand. i wanted the voodoo cuz it sounds like the shit.
 
I just grabbed up some schultz all purpose and bloom plus water soluble-concentrated-with micronutriens havent used yet anybody ever have any experience with this particular stuff and if so how was it
 
Here are some general guidelines for using the BMO nutes. This is not a offical feeding chart - just one I made up from my own personal use. I fed Skunk # 1's using this schedule with good results. For the SPT, I just used one half ounce per gallon of water, every week on this run. Using the same general rule of one quart of mixed up solution per gallon of soil in your container ( 1 gallon of solution max per plant - per week ). To print the feeding schedule, click on it, then right click your mouse and chose the print option.
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max420thc said:
i just read about a guy using a micro tea ..for lack of a better term that is what ill use..it is in this months high times.his buds looked dank.the plant he was growing was called grape ape
well anyhow i set myself up one.
a five gallon bucket.i threw a bunch of worm castings into it after putting four gallons of watter in it.i think about 4 cups of worm castings.then three cups of microrize .some piranaha from AN. some voodoo juice from AN.i threw a couple of cups of dolomite lime into the mix.some sensizyme .some hygrozyme.although i dont know why.but what the hell.im zymeing everying ..the article says to throw a couple of cups of non treated sugar into the mix.i threw some carbo load into it.i just started this treatment and every watering will get the beasties.
the voodooo juice is expensive.but you should see the results.so long as you keep the bucket toped off with water and fed with carbohydrates i would think.your biological colony of good beasties could last forever.the larger the root system the larger the plant and larger the yeild .
so what does anyone else think?
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i think thats an expensive feeding schedule.
 
Tronica said:
i think thats an expensive feeding schedule.
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yea it costs a little to set up the bucket.the little beasties muliply .so it will last some time so long as you keep feeding it sugars.the beasties keep multiplying.
i got some microrize for like 10 dollars a container.the pirahna cost some money.the sensi zyme was cheap.the hygrozyme is expensive.dolomite lime is like five bucks a bag.i only threw in a couple of cup of it.the magnesium and calcium in the lime .along with the PH buffering effect of the lime.
im just guessing it might have cost 40 bucks to make the beastie bucket.
thats what i have been calling it.a beastie bucket.brewed up with a air stone in the bottom.it should last a month or so.
 
Id have to say WAD up to mwdtx and yeah I use the full line of Earth Juice nutes an my sativas seem to like them very good and not to mention that its very hard to burn with EJ.Good stuff!!
 
I've always used Age Old Organics Bloom and Grow. I saw some dude using them on his journal way back when I first was getting into growing. I saw it worked well and I really didn't have much knowledge of growing which was why I read journals. But yeah Age Old Organics are pretty inexpensive and have always worked out great for me.

The way I see it is: if it works for you, why change? Why fix something if it isn't broken? Just find what seems to work for you and stick with it. I don't see a point in spending $400 on nutrients when I could just use what I have and try to perfect my operation to get the largest yield per plant.
 
How do you guys feel about the Bio Bizz line? I was thinking of going with those for my first grow.

Also, what pre-bagged soil would you recommend to use if one were to use the Bio Bizz line? Their own All-mix soil, or would Fox Farm soil be better?

Thanks!

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pro-mix aka sunshine mix with water retention, is better than ffof imo.

and the bio-buzz line looks promising. i know 2 growers using it right now and its looking good.

i am thinking of using their organic mix + pro-mix and bmos foilar feed on a portion of my mini-sog.
 
I am going for the bio bizz right now. I also like all their other products.

seriously though I have reading the tea section and I wonder what I need any store bought ferts now.

I mean guano and worm castings and spt are so cheap and easy to use. Maybe meta k? I having trouble justifying to myself why I got so many store bought nutes laying around.

for dirt I bought the foxfarm ocean forest/light warrior/extra perlite/dolomite lime mix I think a lot of people use.

So much easier to diy than hydro I am excited.

But Bio Bizz does look cool as OMRI and the UK version certified and coming straight from amsterdam. Make sure you read their feed chart. It is important. Also I dont think it starts at seed, more like clone or the third node. You need at least grow and flower at the same time;)
 
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