Best light on the market ?

ANC

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All DIY LEDs are potential fire hazards , that's why they are not legal to use in a commerical grow setting here in colorado...lights must be UL listed incase water gets on them...
No I don't mean it in the ways that they have in common with other DIY lights.
I mean, like if something inflammable gets too close to the light source, it will catch fire.
If it falls on your tent floor, it will catch fire. etc.... 60 to 80W is a lot of power to contain in such a small area
 

Yodaweed

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No I don't mean it in the ways that they have in common with other DIY lights.
I mean, like if something inflammable gets too close to the light source, it will catch fire.
If it falls on your tent floor, it will catch fire. etc.... 60 to 80W is a lot of power to contain in such a small area
They also don't have proper enclosures on wiring , and leds are exposed no covers....basically an electrical fire waiting to happen.
 

Lordhooha

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Your weak dude..I pulled over 4.5 pounds out of a 4x10 in rdwc and 1800 watts.
The cmh provided NO difference in potency or trichs compared to the cobs. The cmh side pulled 8 ounces more than the cobs but also was almost 400 watts more.

But I ask you again please show proof and pics of your comparison.


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They look good I can’t wait to see the outcome of my 315 cmh’s so far they’re getting frosty far earlier due to the uv on this single jacketed hortilux bulbs. Cobs, qbs, cmh or hps all grow good bud. I’m simply tired of the back and forth between everyone. Hard hps guys don’t want to accept that there are different lights that will grow every bit as good as the tired and true lights. Then there’s the hardcore led guys that mainly the purple people eater cats that regurgitate they lies from said purple led manufactures that have given leds a bad name. They’re going to keep getting better and one day the old hps lights will go the way of the dinosaurs but until then I think each light has its ups and downs. People need to stop bickering back and forth on stupid stuff and let’s get back to doing what we do.

I think we can all agree thought the purple and pink disco grow lights need to be recycled into something far more useful.
 

Yodaweed

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Like you saying I grow autos lol..take your own advice
so you are saying you don't grow autos? Aren't you selling auto seeds from your own garden? I can get some of your quotes about your auto seeds from your thread if you'd like.....i'm sure you are an auto grower stop foolin yourself.
 

Heisenbeans

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so you are saying you don't grow autos? Aren't you selling auto seeds from your own garden? I can get some of your quotes about your auto seeds from your thread if you'd like.....i'm sure you are an auto grower stop foolin yourself.
I made a bunch of fem autos a couple years ago for outdoor in the south where we have severe dry weather and photo plants rarely make it through the summer.

But all that still has nothing to do with your comparison statement. Can you post pictures or not. You keep avoiding the question..
 

Budley Doright

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Light is not a very effective heater of air, its better at heqting a surface.

Quite an inefficient heater, if i use a 1000watt bulb against a 1000w foot heater the heater warms the area quicker than the bulb.

Leaves however deal with light radiation and transpiration is hence the most efficient cooling system in mother nature. Hot leqves aint nothing really, hit them hard with radiation and light, what the sun does :-)
No It’s not actually as it’s all 100% efficient so heating a surface to heat the air is exactly the same as using a heater surface to heat the air. You have to understand that a btu is a btu and a watt is a watt. Please quantify your theory and prove me wrong perhaps I’ll learn something new.
 

Budley Doright

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I used to live in up in Washington had the baseboard heating in those houses. The winter there is much different than here. Electric where I’m at is around .11 or something of the sort. I prefer the entire house to be heated and cooled. That’s where geothermal really shines when it cools it uses so so much less. The entire house can be done for less than 5 bucks a month. Plus if this house had ducting already installed that would have been 9 grand cheaper or more. Actual unit themselves before the wells are drilled are all of 5-10k depending on how big and how fancy you want to go.
A typical closed loop geo unit here is $30-40000 installed all in, it’s a hard sell these days with propane being relatively cheap and no incentives. Electricity rates are just ridicules here.
 

Budley Doright

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Light is not a very effective heater of air, its better at heqting a surface.

Quite an inefficient heater, if i use a 1000watt bulb against a 1000w foot heater the heater warms the area quicker than the bulb.

Leaves however deal with light radiation and transpiration is hence the most efficient cooling system in mother nature. Hot leqves aint nothing really, hit them hard with radiation and light, what the sun does :-)
Also I’m not saying I don’t use resistive heating because at lights out I do but if you need light you might as well use it for heat as well, again resistive heating is, be it a light or a wire that produces a glow is the same btu’s if it’s the same wattage. And yes your right evaporative cooling is the basis for all mechanical cooling :).
 

Budley Doright

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Yah initial cost was high due to getting ducting installed and everything else. But after it was said and done it cost about 23k. Well worth the cost plus I’m not out cutting an splitting wood all summer like most do here to heat my house.
I use a pellet stove and have an air source ductless (no basement) but keep thinking I should install a geo with a loop in the lake, to lazy lol. I have 200’ of copper & glycol loop for my chilled water in the cool months as my res’s will still climb over 75 if I don’t.
 

Lordhooha

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A typical closed loop geo unit here is $30-40000 installed all in, it’s a hard sell these days with propane being relatively cheap and no incentives. Electricity rates are just ridicules here.
Damn that’s far more than here. more needs to be done these systems at least the good brands are awesome. Also the warranty on them are awesome my loops are backed with a 50 yr lol and the unit itself was 10 or 15 yrs and they stand behind them which is a plus.
 

Budley Doright

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I sure love the cheap electricity we have here in the Pacific Northwest. I don't have to chop wood or spend 23K. My electricity only goes up maybe $60 a month for a few months in the winter to heat my house. I don't heat the entire house just the rooms I'm occupying at the time. Each room has it's own heat. The only wood I split is what goes in the smoker/cooker for cooking briskets, turkeys, etc...
It must be nice re cheap rates, not here. But it’s still a hard sell for GEO and there are issues with infastructer re loop fields don’t do well in a housing project. A few places are using communal fields and lease to tie into it. It’s a pretty interesting concept but price is the kicker here. When you figure for every dollar spent (if electric) you get a ballpark of $4 back when heating, it’s great.
 
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Budley Doright

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Damn that’s far more than here. more needs to be done these systems at least the good brands are awesome. Also the warranty on them are awesome my loops are backed with a 50 yr lol and the unit itself was 10 or 15 yrs and they stand behind them which is a plus.
Your right it’s ridicules, for a complete up and running 5 ton 2 stage you would be kicking the hell out of $40,000, the government was offering up to $15,000 rebates on a 5 ton new stystem before the election :(. We canceled 4 when the green on program ended.
 
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