Best LED for $400-$600?

Naw fuck hps lol

so far i cut 2 plants that spent time under the light.

plant A, not pictured, was damaged by a falling light during my lighting travails (which led up to purchasing the optic). It spent about 4 weeks of its flowering time under the optic. The potency was very nice, good flavor and visual appeal. Only the main cola buds were solid but all were resiny and fragrant.

Plant B, the chopped plant was 8 weeks under the optic. It suffered some from being rootbound (3gal). I chopped it because it was ~85% cloudy. I play around with chop time because i think that getting the buds to their largest size is not the same as taking them at their highest quality. It was just chopped yesterday so not sure on the nug density. It will be 4oz ish.

The plant that is left under the light has the room to itself. When this plant is finished i think ill have a more solid take on the optics performance.

I think the light grows really well. ive had the light for 2 months. I am just figuring out the spacing and lense options. So far i havent gotten the heavy frost that the mars lamp elicited. However the mars never yielded 4oz from a 3 gal pot.

I think the optic with good canopy management would give 10 oz yield. i never approached that with the mars.

My plan is to build a light similar to the optic using vero 29s or cxb 3070s and match it more carefully to my space. Maybe use a 40" x 15" frame with 8 or 10 cobs.

OK .....now lookie here.....do NOT go DIY. It is a TOTAL drain of ca$h moe-nay! You will also spend AEONS on here reading and marvelling and getting depressed at how ignorant and incapable you are in comparison to some of the geniusessesessess on here......urgh it's soul destroying at times.

I say this because I KNOW this.......I have built and tinkered and developed and grown and MacGyvered $$$s worth of COBs and I am still buying more.....it's an addiction.

So step away from the DIY bomb. Go buy yourself a KIND light....or better yet a SpectrumKing. Get disappointed real quick and then save yourself the $$$$s you'll end up spending in your attempt to outshine the sun.

Trust me, HPS, MH etc are no competition for a true DIYer.....the SUN is our only true competitor!

In conclusion:

DIY looks cheap - it IS theoretically cheap - but you will ALWAYS get addicted and spend a fortune (think meth vs cocaine)
DIY looks easy - it IS easy - but you will ALWAYS marvel at how someone else's creation, forcing you to try harder and ...spend more money!
DIY means you CAN control your FULL spectrum - but you will NEVER stop tinkering and this will .....you guessed it......make you spend more money!

Buying ready-made-Chinese-Takeaway-Alibaba-Rebranded-Lumens-Based-Warehouse-Donwnlight-Blurple-horsesh*t units from fly-by-night-cowboy-here-today-gone-tomorrow-operators will save you money and heartache.

PS - please go DIY.....because it will mean for those first few attempts you won't be as "good" as me and I won't be the ridiculous newbie that I am

PPS - am about to re-post this as a general warning to those that consider DIY

Fuck mars I made a video of me smashing the Mars 2 900w it's rendering right now and then I have to upload it on youtube stay tuned it's gonna be epic.

AquariusPanta said:

Or... one could buy one from you for.... $1000? What would you sell one for, Real?

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Haha I'd actually be down to build some for other people, probably wouldn't be all THAT great price wise and turnaround would be a while but I feel like with each light, I learn a little more...I just don't need more light myself!

It's smashing time

REALSTYLES said:

It's smashing time

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yOu CrAzY mAnE



I do enjoy seeing members in person though.. gives me a better perspective of them. Could you not sell the Mars light, Real, or did you really just feel like giving the fixture a good ole' ass whoopin'?

Those cases are held together pretty well though; I'd have started with unscrewing it and then showcasing my hulk like abilities in front of the camera...

AquariusPanta said:

yOu CrAzY mAnE



I do enjoy seeing members in person though.. gives me a better perspective of them. Could you not sell the Mars light, Real, or did you really just feel like giving the fixture a good ole' ass whoopin'?

Those cases are held together pretty well though; I'd have started with unscrewing it and then showcasing my hulk like abilities in front of the camera...

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Remember I was all no Mars is good. I can grow better than you and all that shit defending shit. After actually testing for myself and having a better grasp of this whole takeover. I now understand a little more and still learning

REALSTYLES said:

Remember I was all no Mars is good. I can grow better than you and all that shit defending shit. After actually testing for myself and having a better grasp of this whole takeover. I now understand a little more and still learning

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So in other words, you finally admit that we were right on the money, and that you were dead wrong. That was worth hitting the "show ignored content" button to read.

Bad Karma said:

So in other words, you finally admit that we were right on the money, and that you were dead wrong. That was worth hitting the "show ignored content" button to read.

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Yeah. I believed them lol. It worked but it's not like the cobs and disco is dead. To bad you hit the ignore button you would've had a laugh

Owe yeah i really laughed they way you handled that hammer lmao.. you should of drove over it a couple of times with your peddle bike as well lol
one good thing you did ,,
Is show how well built it is or how week you are

SuperKush89 said:

My tent will likely be 3x3x6 or 4x4x6. Just wondering what my options are. I've some research but I'm looking for feed back from actually users. Thanks.

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ill tell u a little secret s.e.t leds

rob333 said:

ill tell u a little secret s.e.t leds

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only guys at hydro shops get the reps for the good leds

Darth Vapour said:

Owe yeah i really laughed they way you handled that hammer lmao.. you should of drove over it a couple of times with your peddle bike as well lol
one good thing you did ,,
Is show how well built it is or how week you are

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I can afford to do it fuck it. It was junk the panels I make have 138,000 lumens and the umols are 2796 at 8"s. Isn't 1000w hps lumens 145,000?

edit fucking my typing sucks

testiclees said:

so far i cut 2 plants that spent time under the light.

plant A, not pictured, was damaged by a falling light during my lighting travails (which led up to purchasing the optic). It spent about 4 weeks of its flowering time under the optic. The potency was very nice, good flavor and visual appeal. Only the main cola buds were solid but all were resiny and fragrant.

Plant B, the chopped plant was 8 weeks under the optic. It suffered some from being rootbound (3gal). I chopped it because it was ~85% cloudy. I play around with chop time because i think that getting the buds to their largest size is not the same as taking them at their highest quality. It was just chopped yesterday so not sure on the nug density. It will be 4oz ish.

The plant that is left under the light has the room to itself. When this plant is finished i think ill have a more solid take on the optics performance.

I think the light grows really well. ive had the light for 2 months. I am just figuring out the spacing and lense options. So far i havent gotten the heavy frost that the mars lamp elicited. However the mars never yielded 4oz from a 3 gal pot.

I think the optic with good canopy management would give 10 oz yield. i never approached that with the mars.

My plan is to build a light similar to the optic using vero 29s or cxb 3070s and match it more carefully to my space. Maybe use a 40" x 15" frame with 8 or 10 cobs.

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Was that the 3k model?

Bad Karma said:

Was that the 3k model?

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4k.

REALSTYLES said:

I can afford to do it fuck it. It was junk the panels I make have 138,000 lumens and the umols are 2796 at 8"s. Isn't 1000w hps lumens 145,000?

edit fucking my typing sucks

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Curious on the cost of your DIY cob grow light and do you have a link or thread showing start to finish build

$700 and just click on REALSTYLES 6th DIY CXA

i guess i don't wanna fry my girls. Maybe the 360 vero isn't such a good idea. So which onw cxa or cxb 200 watt?

CXB as long as you can get them.