"best" indoor haze & sativa fems (VOTE)

i'm still thinking about something like 4 new saliva dominants i'd like to test to see how the fare against haze x skunk and possibly malawi gold if i still have any as well as breed to them to improve my genetics. i'd like to hear what everyone else thinks of what's available and affordable as i don't have experience with most of the breeders i'm considering. i decided to broaden my search after seeing a glowing review for delicious seeds' gear and decided their haze 2.0 might be worth a try.

pick up to 3 favorites, and any feedback on what you chose and especially WHY would be appreciated. i'm pretty sure i'll be getting ace panma red as it's been repeatedly suggested to me, and DNA C13 haze is a virtual no brainer as that's their haziest strain, and lemon skunk and sweet haze are anything but shabby in their own rights.

i'm especially looking for:
motivation
euphoria
sensory heightening
increased co-ordination
freedom from "spaciness"
flavor
&
touchy feely effects

all feedback is appreciated, and if i ever get to pull a grow off without outside interference, i can't wait to share my experience and compare strains. i'm hoping something proves clearly superior to haze x skunk if only in flavor.

thanks in advance for any and all feedback. any notes on breeders to avoid (dutch passion?) are appreciated too.

Sharks death dna
amnesia haze auto dinafem, auto haze Dina fem (amazing fuckn smoke!!!)
choc rain Escobar ( he's got alot of good quick sativa stuff)
Red cherry berry Barney's
Easy sativa female seed co
ak48 nirvana

Really you should base it on which strains will have the best leaves to smoke at 5 wks from seed.

Really you should just grow a single plant start to finish. That would be a good first step. Far more rewarding than simply dreaming of doing it, but knowing you, you are most likely to come up with done bull shit and drama that the rest of us tend to avoid.

ETA grow some big bud.

Hazy im not here to bash you dude, but i must say these guys make me lol. Its funny shit every time they get on you! Anyways you should really consider shackzilla from sannies. Its my go to strain every time. My avi is a resent pic of my shackzilla that i have going right now. That pic was at 2 1/2 wks in the uc. Its the ssh pheno thats phenomenal in taste and potency. Very stable fem ceed that will quickly become a favorite.

Plus rep for you guys for making me laugh. I had a bad day thanks.

checkdareplay said:

Hazy im not here to bash you dude, but i must say these guys make me lol. Its funny shit every time they get on you! Anyways you should really consider shackzilla from sannies. Its my go to strain every time. My avi is a resent pic of my shackzilla that i have going right now. That pic was at 2 1/2 wks in the uc. Its the ssh pheno thats phenomenal in taste and potency. Very stable fem ceed that will quickly become a favorite.

Plus rep for you guys for making me laugh. I had a bad day thanks.

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I ran pack of shackzilla before. Some buds were so big wouldnt fit in a quart widemouth jar. Had a decent smell sorta hazey. Was decent smoke, like 70% sativa high.

checkdareplay said:

Hazy im not here to bash you dude, but i must say these guys make me lol. Its funny shit every time they get on you! Anyways you should really consider shackzilla from sannies. Its my go to strain every time. My avi is a resent pic of my shackzilla that i have going right now. That pic was at 2 1/2 wks in the uc. Its the ssh pheno thats phenomenal in taste and potency. Very stable fem ceed that will quickly become a favorite.

Plus rep for you guys for making me laugh. I had a bad day thanks.

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Its all outta love. It's just aghhhhhh I'm sure in person I'd be so much nicer and get along with Ol' Crazy here, I know and am friends with a few social misanthropes.

Just gets old and I figure I may as well be entertaining to myself and others. I don't hate the dude, just wish he didn't sound like a broken record... also grow some GODDAMN WEED man! Shit, you'll get far more respect, as well as insight when you grow a plant start to fuckin finish and light up a properly cured and dried plant... not some fucking leaves, I mean shit I smoke cannabis everyday, I could smoke every leaf in my garden both veg and flower and I wouldn't be high.

Plus stop knocking on Indicas. We get it you got no love, but to make them meaningless or cash cropper (wait, its bad to make money? ) denies the ability to others who like myself who really do benefit from Indicas in a way a sativa just can't (and for the record I so love me some sativa, but it isn't worth the limited space I have for 14-20 weeks).

booms111 said:

I ran pack of shackzilla before. Some buds were so big wouldnt fit in a quart widemouth jar. Had a decent smell sorta hazey. Was decent smoke, like 70% sativa high.

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Yes massive buds for sure. This will be my last rodeo with her, cuz of the strawberry sour haze that i have started. Shackzillas potency is not over powering, but strong enough that it hits me then it makes me sit down and think way too much...lol overall it has treated me well and must say good bye.

checkdareplay said:

Yes massive buds for sure. This will be my last rodeo with her, cuz of the strawberry sour haze that i have started. Shackzillas potency is not over powering, but strong enough that it hits me then it makes me sit down and think way too much...lol overall it has treated me well and must say good bye.

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Strawberry sour haze will be the bomb! I ran the girl scout haze cookies and was pleased. Just started some east coast sour haze, uk chem, rainbow jones. Yeah Shackzillas werent really keepers in my pack, gave a buddy a clone not sure if he still runs it or not. Have you ran any other CSG strains?

i already have a pack of sannies' jack f7. if memory serves me right, shackzilla is a SSH & indic a hybrid. i'm looking for the "purest" saliva dominants that are 12 weeks or faster. i really was interested in female seeds' NL5 haze, but at 14 weeks, it's too slow as late as i'll be getting started what with most of the grow season already gone. if there was ever a day i could use some anti-depressant, it's today.

silly trolls... hate is for morons.

as to growing "just one strain", i'm not worried one bit about yield, and i'm going to SCROG, so i've already planned for overlap. i'm looking for the best genetics to start with for making saliva hybrids. haze x skunk has an awesome potent and long lasting buzz, but that cigar wrapper with hints of ashtray flavor tastes like shit to me. then there's sweet haze and lemon skunk... two of my favorite strains... too bad it looks like they're extinct now as they're not listed anymore at DNA. it seems like everything i'm looking for like apollo 11 and real afropips malawi gold goes extinct. it's like there's an anti-sativa conspiracy, but you'd never guess what with all the troll love up in here.

i'm looking to compare strains and find something better than haze skunk or maybe malawi gold which seemed awesome when mine got fried in mid flower. i want to compare that against whatever else is worthy of testing, and i already have a silver haze #9 i intended to test against jack f7.

my priority is to find the best strains i can within a reasonable amount of time, and stick with them. i love 8 miles high, but that's off the market again as is holy smokes' malawi. i don't just want to test for my own purposes either, but also so i can share my experience and help the next person a world full of assholes conspires against getting high.

so trolls, where are YOUR pics of sativas beotch? shoes on the other foot now fools. put up or shut the fuck up! show us what you have that isn't cash crapping schwag. oh, that's right... you can't because you're just another cash crapping cookie cutter loser with nothing but greed and suck. come on toys... you demand proof from me... show your shit you AIN'T growing.

that ought to shut you the fuck up!

thanks to everyone who DOES want to help those of us that want to get high and make the world a happier place by sharing WHATEVER info. there just isn't enough info out there.

as to many of the strains mentioned, i'm not looking for $50+ packs of regs, just $15 or so fems. i've still got to buy packs of awesome jack's cleaner 2, haze x skunk & awesome as far as i've been told third dimension which i trust as TGA knocked it out of the park with the touchy feely effect for JC2. talk about top grade anti-depressants!

Ill be doing a sativa hunt as well. Bodhis malawi, chocolope, gage green colombians, and snow highs work. None are cheap but u get what u pay for usually...

booms111 said:

Strawberry sour haze will be the bomb! I ran the girl scout haze cookies and was pleased. Just started some east coast sour haze, uk chem, rainbow jones. Yeah Shackzillas werent really keepers in my pack, gave a buddy a clone not sure if he still runs it or not. Have you ran any other CSG strains?

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This will be my first time with CSG. now that you mentioned them, i saw yesterday that ojd is doing his xmas special till feb. Last friday i just placed another order at the tude for some ogchem. Wish i wouldve saw that sooner so i could snatch up 2 pack and get all those goodies. Im going to order soon rainbow jones and chemmy jones and labrador.

Hazy, your not gonna find a fast flowering pure sativa! Since you like TGA, jacktheripper is a fast flowering sativa dominant hybrid. 12 wks sativas are hybrids 60/40 or 80/20 to get down to 12wks or less.

This is the Cannabiogen Caribe that I have had hanging for the past 3 days.
If it doesn't look familiar to you, that's because I already trimmed all the leaves off and what is left is called buds.

Cannalope Haze from DNA

I ran that stuff for 3 years, Great Smoke!

What is WITH this hazey grapes fella? Is it some kind of joke? He can't be serious. Reading his posts make me feel disoriented and dizzy. Fuck.

What if him and Finshaggy were roommates? Possibly the best reality show ever.

Sharks death dna - i have a BETTER DNA martian mean green cross with that, but would rather try their pure G13 haze. i'm not looking for hybrids really. i want to make some with "purer than haze skunk" strains. besides, if the name refers to stinky hog's breath, no way. i refuse to stink my room up
amnesia haze auto dinafem, auto haze Dina fem (amazing fuckn smoke!!!) nope... not looking for autos. they can't be cloned. otherwise, super cali haze is nice
choc rain Escobar - i have jack f7 already, as well as purer chocolope. breeding that with blueberry is a step in the wrong direction
Red cherry berry Barney's - i have a theory that barney is a troll. every time i mention the catpissy pheno i got from my LSD under halide, people go out of their fucking mind talking shit. if it wasn't a haze pheno, then my landlord was tampering with my plants and that might be why my haze skunk tasted like cigar wrappers with hints of ashtray. i have a sour cherry buddha's sister er fem i want to marry to red haired and strawberry panama red for a red cherry haze some day
female seed co - i'm REALLY interesteed in their 14 week NL#5 neville's haze, but don't have the time to spare
ak48 nirvana - stony & skunky is a twofer for not interested. AK-47 isn't my kind of plant. i like quiet sativas

for what it's worth, my favorite sativa dominants so far are:
sweet haze - dna extinct? if so, that sucks! it was really sticky, fruity and even reasonably psychoactive for a 9 week strain and superior to many other hazes, jacks and thais i tried with similar traits
haze x skunk - high quality seeds potent and never stony
jack's cleaner 2 - TGA subcool i REALLY loved the touchy feely effect. has some body thump, but not too bad
8 miles high - mandala a really easy to get along with sativa that has a fun playful high that's neither racy nor stony
lemon skunk - DNA another awesome DNA high that's extinct? mother effer! it's not listed on their site and out of stock. it beats the crap out of skunk #1 in every way!
malawi gold - holy smokes mine got burned by my light, but it was way more co-operative than full moon (highland thai) and might be the best strain i've budded yet. i should still have some beans of that as well as some crosses with cindy apollo i want to test some day. for now, haze skunk is a proven strain for me, but that could become my male of choice for breeding with all of my fems and continuing with whatever strain proves best overall. it definitely smoked like a sativa, but the THC profile might have improved if mine didn't get hot spot burnt

my goal is to breed something better than haze skunk both for flavor and high, but try to keep it's nice "single bud every inch or two" patternm that would be SCROG magic. i love the strain as/is, but not the flavor, and even if it got stonier after a month, columbian gold was more visual.

if money and space weren't issues, my "real deal" shopping list favorites would be:
mekong haze - allegedly "the trippiest"
oldtimer's (purple) haze
neville's haze
&
columbian gold (ace seeds' pure version, but their senor jack cross sounds awesome too)

those 4 strains sound like "the best of the best" based on genetics and/or rep. i would imagine sensi has the least diluted neville's haze, and noticed several alleged hazes i tried were really watered down compared to the real deal's reputation.

my ultimate goal is to take the absolute best sativa i can find, maybe mekong if the claims are true, and then make something much better than skunk #1 using the fastest sativa dominants/mids i can find like the third dimension or CH9 jack & jack 33 instead of the afghani that's polluted sativas for far too long and make better "indoor hazes". it's a shame apollo 11 is pretty much extinct. that would have been one of my top choices after finding out cinderella is more about motivation and euphoria than heightened senses, at least in it's "original state" and not the potent pineapple pheno i've never tried myself.

as to cannalope haze, i've wanted to try that because i love DNA gear, and i think sweet haze is 50% cannalope, but at just 56 days, i imagine it being more wtered down than i'm looking for as i'm trying to get as pure, but manageable in a SCROG, sativa as possible without going broke or waiting more than 12 weeks. some day, 15 weeks plus is a dream, but right now i'm trying to be practical.

but i really need to hit the ground running this late in the season. that's also the reason i want to start several plants. i want to fill my screens up immediately before summer makes heat an issue.

i was hoping for more votes. i already have a silver haze #9 fem i wanted to test against my sannies' jack f7 as well as breed with in another grow and panama red is pretty much a given on my shopping list and was looking for more votes on the other strains to fill my order out if i ever place it. things never go according to plan though between neighbors and landlords up in my biseness like a motherfucker every time i start a grow

hazey grapes said:

i was hoping for more votes. i already have a silver haze #9 fem i wanted to test against my sannies' jack f7 as well as breed with in another grow and panama red is pretty much a given on my shopping list and was looking for more votes on the other strains to fill my order out if i ever place it. things never go according to plan though between neighbors and landlords up in my biseness like a motherfucker every time i start a grow

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TLR version: Crazy ol' Hazy be talkin shit!

Grow a plant start to finish instead of dreaming of it. trust me, its far more satisfying.

So they aren't feminized, but it occurred to me that PeakseedsBC Sweet Skunk would be perfect for you as they are exceptionally low odor and inexpensive. You could finish a plant without worrying. They're really more breeding stock but it's good quality smoke of sativa dominant hybridized bud. It's well worked and pretty stable. Nice sativa buzz. Clear headed.

You would love Sugar Punch's effects IMO. It's got a dank smelling side though and would be far too smelly for you.

Great Hazey, glad to see my constant pushing has brought you to Panama Red. I am a indica stoned force for good, unlike most of the indica flunkies you will encounter. I see that only Cannabiogen has the fems and not sure if they are crossed with a haze, per Attitude, but close enough I guess.

I would also suggest Punto Roja from Cannabiogen. Close as you will get to a worked, indoor friendly Colombian. I have not run this but know they work their strains to be indoor suitable from the PR grow and reading others grow experiences. Says 16 weeks flower so.... Only $5 per regular seed. Colombian and the types of highs you desire will require lots of weeks in flower. Single Seed Centre has this and the others.

The Panama Red I ran was 12 weeks flower for the red pheno and 13 for the green one. In low doses this will have you motivated and maybe doing some stuff you would not otherwise, I do work while on it. In high doses you will be spaced and somewhat goofy or dysfunctional. You kinda said you did not want to be 'spaced out' or uncoordinated? Kinda goes with the territory here in higher doses with any good sativa.