bernie sanders is fucking crazy

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
Show us a perfect leader.

I'm a Bernie backer because there is no one out there who better represents my interests. When that changes, so will my allegiances.

See? I can say that without insulting anyone. Why can't you do the same?
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Couldn't you just hire somebody to steal things for you, rather than elect a person to do it and hope it trickles down ?
 
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schuylaar

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Boatguy said:
How is a quote from Bernie in his 20's even relevent?
In the 1960's bernie said...
You are an odd duck with way too much free time
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you should ask Justice Brett McRapey Kavanaugh..it's not relevant.

but who knows?..maybe they'll find out Bernie took a shit on the floor at Wendy's, which would totally take him out of the running.
 
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
The notion that levying taxes for the common good is equivalent to theft is utterly selfish and ignores the fact that a nation needs all of its citizens performing at their best to thrive.
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Despite your small offering of word salad, I find your lettuce to be a bit browned on the edges and unfit for even a silly rabbit to consume.

Now, let's be real for a minute. Taking things which don't belong to you, under threat of force to the rightful owner, if you or I did it would be wrong. So, if it's wrong for you and I to do, wouldn't it be wrong for everyone else to do also?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
What did the unemployed Bernie supporter say to the unemployed ancap pedo?

Pay your taxes you selfish individualist.
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My issue isn't with people who voluntarily collectively cooperate.

It's with people who use the term "cooperate" when they really mean comply, "anarchist" .
 
Shua1991

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Ill vote for bernie and canvas for him again if he enters the primaries. I'm a bernie supporter because of his policies and proposals. His stance on foreign intervention and his fiscal arguments are somewhat along the lines of a social democrat, which I myself am. I also like Andrew Yang as a potential libertarian-Left leaning candidate. I like his ideas on universal basoc income being necessary in the future due to automation and potential employment crisis on the horizon. Its refreshing to see so many candidates that would be worth voting for.

So-so
Tulsi


Not pumped for

beto

kamala

Biden

Booker

clinton

gilibrand
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
Despite your small offering of word salad, I find your lettuce to be a bit browned on the edges and unfit for even a silly rabbit to consume.

Now, let's be real for a minute. Taking things which don't belong to you, under threat of force to the rightful owner, if you or I did it would be wrong. So, if it's wrong for you and I to do, wouldn't it be wrong for everyone else to do also?
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Them go live in the Congo, where you're truly on your own.

Your insults mean nothing in the face of your totally self-centered attitude.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Shua1991 said:
Ill vote for bernie and canvas for him again if he enters the primaries. I'm a bernie supporter because of his policies and proposals. His stance on foreign intervention and his fiscal arguments are somewhat along the lines of a social democrat, which I myself am. I also like Andrew Yang as a potential libertarian-Left leaning candidate. I like his ideas on universal basoc income being necessary in the future due to automation and potential employment crisis on the horizon. Its refreshing to see so many candidates that would be worth voting for.

So-so
Tulsi


Not pumped for

beto

kamala

Biden

Booker

clinton

gilibrand
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Having looked closely at UBI, I have come to the conclusion that progressive taxes, stronger minimum wage laws and universal healthcare is a better option.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Shua1991 said:
Ill vote for bernie and canvas for him again if he enters the primaries. I'm a bernie supporter because of his policies and proposals. His stance on foreign intervention and his fiscal arguments are somewhat along the lines of a social democrat, which I myself am. I also like Andrew Yang as a potential libertarian-Left leaning candidate. I like his ideas on universal basoc income being necessary in the future due to automation and potential employment crisis on the horizon. Its refreshing to see so many candidates that would be worth voting for.

So-so
Tulsi


Not pumped for

beto

kamala

Biden

Booker

clinton

gilibrand
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That healthcare bill that Bernie wrote. It was garbage. I am in favor of a well thought out and documented plan for migrating healthcare to single payer system but that shit legislation that Bernie wrote is an albatross around Democratic Party's neck. It contains zero details for how it will be administered or payed for and would force about 60 million people who like the plan they currently have into Medicare. No thanks. As I said, the legislation is not really a plan but a partial outline and it is an albatross to Democrats. Republicans like it but not for a good reason.

Also, Bernie has shown no ability as a leader for womens issues, issues that affect black or Latino people. He can't win the nominatoin without their support. He's a very divisive leader and we don't need another one of those, especially not one immediately after Trump.

Clinton is not running, by the way.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
That healthcare bill that Bernie wrote. It was garbage. I am in favor of a well thought out and documented plan for migrating healthcare to single payer system but that shit legislation that Bernie wrote is an albatross around Democratic Party's neck. It contains zero details for how it will be administered or payed for and would force about 60 million people who like the plan they currently have into Medicare. No thanks. As I said, the legislation is not really a plan but a partial outline and it is an albatross to Democrats. Republicans like it but not for a good reason.

Also, Bernie has shown no ability as a leader for womens issues, issues that affect black or Latino people. He can't win the nominatoin without their support. He's a very divisive leader and we don't need another one of those, especially not one immediately after Trump.

Clinton is not running, by the way.
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Funny how you endlessly trash Bernie's plan but never mention that no one else has proposed anything better, or even much of anything at all.

His proposal was meant to start a discussion, not be the final draft. Everyone else jumped back from it, just like their corporate donors told them to.

That makes you a hypocrite.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Funny how you endlessly trash Bernie's plan but never mention that no one else has proposed anything better, or even much of anything at all.

His proposal was meant to start a discussion, not be the final draft. Everyone else jumped back from it, just like their corporate donors told them to.

That makes you a hypocrite.
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Actually, the best plan for now is to shore up the ACA and work to pry away our government back from Republicans. The albatross that Bernie hung around the Democratic Party's neck is counterproductive because it is such a shitty plan. I'd like to see a good plan that contains details on costs, funding, administration and how people can keep the plans they are in if they like them. Better yet, have a dialogue rather than just force an unfinished garbage piece of legislation down everybody's throats.

Harris just came out in support for Bernie's Medicare for All bill. So, we now agree on her. Happy now?

While we are talking, would you explain what being a "Progressive" means to you?
 
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