Basement grow tent smell issue

myke

myke

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build some walls then your tent is inside a room.vent outside its pretty easy ,scrubbed ofcourse.
once you add fresh outside air in and stinky scrubbed out the smell goes away.trying to scrub without venting outside i think is a lost battle.
 
xFACEMANx

xFACEMANx

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myke said:
build some walls then your tent is inside a room.vent outside its pretty easy ,scrubbed ofcourse.
once you add fresh outside air in and stinky scrubbed out the smell goes away.trying to scrub without venting outside i think is a lost battle.
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Not aimed at you, just touching on what you said....
That's where I am.but the confusion in the wording here is 'vented outside" by that it sounds like outside the house like most outsides.
But this time , outside is in the basement.
If what your saying is that running an internal scrubber (inside the tent)alone is a lost cause. I concur.
BUT,The addition of that ,to a system that pulled air from the basement into the tent (supply),and scrubs it through the carbon filter , returning the air back out into the basement(return).
That would be plenty for most. The addition of a room around the tent would help isolate the smell there.
BUT The additional room scrubber , outside the tent would kill anything in the tent room....but is that over kill? Well no and here's why.
The one everyone forgets about....the stealth setup is genius till u open it.
Most of us do this during our grow. Open the tent....lol I'm not being funny.
You could not smell a thing in my room when I was stealth....until it opened up and stank up the house and part of the block. I was like damn I should have thought of that. So I worked after 12 am in my room for a long time, hoping to avoid a nosey nose. Lol

So stealth is only as good as the room you work in. Even if the tent is pimp tight.
Sorry for the ramble. Food for thought.
 
goatfarmer90

goatfarmer90

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xFACEMANx said:
No bud....I quoted you because you had some good ideas and I wanted to expand on them a little and how I do them.
I wouldn't tell you how to do your situation at all. Sorry if I sounded like that in anyway.
That's my biggest gripe with help on here is trying to sell your setup to a guy who can't use it, and is asking how to do his.
Your are gold bro. Sounds like you have it hammered down, and I wouldn't tell you different.
the second scrubber in the tent is a good idea regardless. It would be a hell of a lot smaller than an external.
But if I had the money and the ability,I'd do the external.....and if I'm a super freak about it all. The third one to the inside of the tent.
Just adding options my friend, I often ask myself what my growroom would look like if it was creative mode in Minecraft lol. No budget......geeezzzz.
Anyway sorry if you felt judged. Not what I meant at all. I liked your ideas.
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Thanks for the help!
xFACEMANx said:
Not aimed at you, just touching on what you said....
That's where I am.but the confusion in the wording here is 'vented outside" by that it sounds like outside the house like most outsides.
But this time , outside is in the basement.
If what your saying is that running an internal scrubber (inside the tent)alone is a lost cause. I concur.
BUT,The addition of that ,to a system that pulled air from the basement into the tent (supply),and scrubs it through the carbon filter , returning the air back out into the basement(return).
That would be plenty for most. The addition of a room around the tent would help isolate the smell there.
BUT The additional room scrubber , outside the tent would kill anything in the tent room....but is that over kill? Well no and here's why.
The one everyone forgets about....the stealth setup is genius till u open it.
Most of us do this during our grow. Open the tent....lol I'm not being funny.
You could not smell a thing in my room when I was stealth....until it opened up and stank up the house and part of the block. I was like damn I should have thought of that. So I worked after 12 am in my room for a long time, hoping to avoid a nosey nose. Lol

So stealth is only as good as the room you work in. Even if the tent is pimp tight.
Sorry for the ramble. Food for thought.
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I completely understand what you.mean and seem to be getting somewhere with all of the help here.When I say vent outside I do mean venting outside the house...Idont want to run the scrubbed air exiting the house...I want to run a fresh air supply line into the tent from outside through a basement window with a dryer vent setup..As far as how far along I've come since this post and all your input .. I have added a second carbon filter...Moved the original filter and fan inside the tent and put the 2nd filter at the end of the ducting just to blow through an extra filter...for now.It has seemed to help temporarily ease the smell to nothing.I have opened all basement windows for some fresh air into the basement and have the dehumidifier running still.Ive closed all openings in the tent tight and made sure everything is leak tight.As far as long term solutions my best bet for my situation would be to put up some walls making a small.room in the basement? To put the tents in...and then have the filter inside the tent blowing the air out of that small.room into the basement...with a fresh air.supply from a.window into the the tents in that room? Would i be getting somewhere doing that? I see im.kind of pissing in the wind with the way I have it vented now and its driving me.crazy not being able to get this handled...I appreciate all the input and help.from everybody here.
 
goatfarmer90

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Would that get me closer to an ideal grow room environment? ...I feel I'm managing the temp RH and smell of the ENTIRE basement with the filter setup and room size and situation I have...Will adding fresh air line from.outside into the tent help reduce the amount of.smell ? Since im introducing new air ? Instead if recirculating the stale partially filtered air over and over and overrr?
 
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growingforfun

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goatfarmer90 said:
Would that get me closer to an ideal grow room environment? ...I feel I'm managing the temp RH and smell of the ENTIRE basement with the filter setup and room size and situation I have...Will adding fresh air line from.outside into the tent help reduce the amount of.smell ? Since im introducing new air ? Instead if recirculating the stale partially filtered air over and over and overrr?
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I wouldnt recommend bring in outside air unless you and pumping more air out of the house than your bringing in.

Remember that fresh air will ALWAYS find a way in. But if your bring in fresh air from outside and only venting to the basement it will push smell out of your house
 
goatfarmer90

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growingforfun said:
I wouldnt recommend bring in outside air unless you and pumping more air out of the house than your bringing in.

Remember that fresh air will ALWAYS find a way in. But if your bring in fresh air from outside and only venting to the basement it will push smell out of your house
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That's what I kind of thought also...that the introduction of new air may push the non filtered air with lingering smell out.
 
goatfarmer90

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goatfarmer90 said:
That's what I kind of thought also...that the introduction of new air may push the non filtered air with lingering smell
myke said:
build some walls then your tent is inside a room.vent outside its pretty easy ,scrubbed ofcourse.
once you add fresh outside air in and stinky scrubbed out the smell goes away.trying to scrub without venting outside i think is a lost battle.
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I have thought about this and am thinking this is the route I will have to go.
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xFACEMANx

xFACEMANx

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growingforfun said:
I wouldnt recommend bring in outside air unless you and pumping more air out of the house than your bringing in.

Remember that fresh air will ALWAYS find a way in. But if your bring in fresh air from outside and only venting to the basement it will push smell out of your house
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I agree with this completely,
I'm doing exactly what you doing space wise.
This is what I do. Run internal air. Not outside air.....you breathing,they breathing lol.
In winter basement is cool enough. I run the inlet to a lower cooler part of the room.....With a little inlet filter for dust and bugs. I cut up a cheap ac filter and fit that...there little to no drag.
In summer I run the inlet up to the house ac supply. Our basement is finished also, so there's a supply grate in the roof chute from ac. Not so close that it sucks only threw vent.thers a space where, when the ac cycles down it can pull air from the room that was cooled.
All this is supplied in the basement for a closed cycle.
Remember adding air in, means having air exit. Regardless of if it's a house, a tent, or your body.
If not, you create a vacume with no inlet , or pressure with no outlet.
 
goatfarmer90

goatfarmer90

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xFACEMANx said:
I agree with this completely,
I'm doing exactly what you doing space wise.
This is what I do. Run internal air. Not outside air.....you breathing,they breathing lol.
In winter basement is cool enough. I run the inlet to a lower cooler part of the room.....With a little inlet filter for dust and bugs. I cut up a cheap ac filter and fit that...there little to no drag.
In summer I run the inlet up to the house ac supply. Our basement is finished also, so there's a supply grate in the roof chute from ac. Not so close that it sucks only threw vent.thers a space where, when the ac cycles down it can pull air from the room that was cooled.
All this is supplied in the basement for a closed cycle.
Remember adding air in, means having air exit. Regardless of if it's a house, a tent, or your body.
If not, you create a vacume with no inlet , or pressure with no outlet.
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Once I would build a room around my tents is when this would apply ? Filter in my tent and then I would run an additional filter stand alone on the ground in the room correct?
 
xFACEMANx

xFACEMANx

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goatfarmer90 said:
Once I would build a room around my tents is when this would apply ? Filter in my tent and then I would run an additional filter stand alone on the ground in the room correct?
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You got it. The additional filter in the new Room you built around the tent.
 
xFACEMANx

xFACEMANx

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xFACEMANx said:
You got it. The additional filter in the new Room you built around the tent.
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That being said.... for shits and giggles. How big of a room?
Remember this filter will scrub this room with the tent shut too. Which makes it a perfect work area for you that’s filtered. The forgotten part. Make this room big enough to to put a drying tent in and room to trim. This would be ideal.
Remember to make your setup as future proof as possible. Room goes quick my freind. Measure it all out. Sizes of you tables you work on trimming area.... it would suck to have to undo/redo what you did.... a lot. Think, measure, almost a dry run. Imagine where you want to be also. Not where you have to get by with now.
Goof luck. I’m here
 
goatfarmer90

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xFACEMANx said:
You got it. The additional filter in the new Room you built around the tent.
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Relief is near...
xFACEMANx said:
That being said.... for shits and giggles. How big of a room?
Remember this filter will scrub this room with the tent shut too. Which makes it a perfect work area for you that’s filtered. The forgotten part. Make this room big enough to to put a drying tent in and room to trim. This would be ideal.
Remember to make your setup as future proof as possible. Room goes quick my freind. Measure it all out. Sizes of you tables you work on trimming area.... it would suck to have to undo/redo what you did.... a lot. Think, measure, almost a dry run. Imagine where you want to be also. Not where you have to get by with now.
Goof luck. I’m
xFACEMANx said:
That being said.... for shits and giggles. How big of a room?
Remember this filter will scrub this room with the tent shut too. Which makes it a perfect work area for you that’s filtered. The forgotten part. Make this room big enough to to put a drying tent in and room to trim. This would be ideal.
Remember to make your setup as future proof as possible. Room goes quick my freind. Measure it all out. Sizes of you tables you work on trimming area.... it would suck to have to undo/redo what you did.... a lot. Think, measure, almost a dry run. Imagine where you want to be also. Not where you have to get by with now.
Goof luck. I’m here
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The room is not measured out and is basically totally upto be decided.I have 2 tents actually...the first is my veg seedling and clone tent...that's a 3x3x5 I dont worry Bout smell in that I just have fans going circulating air and has been okay no flower no smell...and then the 5x5 x7 flower tent...So just basically giving an idea of the setup and the room I have and intend to work with..its not a completed setup in my basement yet ...But the room.would probbaly be about 10x10 or 12 x10.I joined this group to kind of iron out all of my.kinks and problems I have found in the past as I like the hobby and enjoy the time and efforts put in for the final product..This will be my third completed run so I am still pretty new but have a basic sense of all the bases.. I suppose...but deffinitly need fine tuning and some advice from guys that are willing to help and share experiences...Alot of the guys in the grow shops around me dont seem to want to be to helpful to newer amateur hobbyists or coniseurs like myself to lend a hand I suppose...When I have alot of newb questions I suppose it is annoying so I do understand...Lol
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goatfarmer90

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goatfarmer90 said:
Relief is near...
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Another thing on the drying tent! I usually use the flower tent to dry after I cut and trim ...then my veg tent can chill untill the crops dry and cured and then everything gets moved into flower...wash,rinse repeat..or that's how it has been working out for me so far lol
 
goatfarmer90

goatfarmer90

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xFACEMANx said:
That being said.... for shits and giggles. How big of a room?
Remember this filter will scrub this room with the tent shut too. Which makes it a perfect work area for you that’s filtered. The forgotten part. Make this room big enough to to put a drying tent in and room to trim. This would be ideal.
Remember to make your setup as future proof as possible. Room goes quick my freind. Measure it all out. Sizes of you tables you work on trimming area.... it would suck to have to undo/redo what you did.... a lot. Think, measure, almost a dry run. Imagine where you want to be also. Not where you have to get by with now.
Goof luck. I’m here
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growingforfun

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goatfarmer90 said:
Another thing on the drying tent! I usually use the flower tent to dry after I cut and trim ...then my veg tent can chill untill the crops dry and cured and then everything gets moved into flower...wash,rinse repeat..or that's how it has been working out for me so far lol
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Sounds like wasted time to me. Any downtime in the flower area adds up, a week here, a week there, all the sudden that's one less harvest per year.

My new plants go into my flower area within a few hours of the old ones coming out.
 
goatfarmer90

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growingforfun said:
Sounds like wasted time to me. Any downtime in the flower area adds up, a week here, a week there, all the sudden that's one less harvest per year.

My new plants go into my flower area within a few hours of the old ones coming out.
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Suppose you are right.I didnt think like that..Once I get things in a good routine and all my problems sorted out I will definitely take that tip into consideration and use it
 
myke

myke

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xFACEMANx said:
Not aimed at you, just touching on what you said....
That's where I am.but the confusion in the wording here is 'vented outside" by that it sounds like outside the house like most outsides.
But this time , outside is in the basement.
If what your saying is that running an internal scrubber (inside the tent)alone is a lost cause. I concur.
BUT,The addition of that ,to a system that pulled air from the basement into the tent (supply),and scrubs it through the carbon filter , returning the air back out into the basement(return).
That would be plenty for most. The addition of a room around the tent would help isolate the smell there.
BUT The additional room scrubber , outside the tent would kill anything in the tent room....but is that over kill? Well no and here's why.
The one everyone forgets about....the stealth setup is genius till u open it.
Most of us do this during our grow. Open the tent....lol I'm not being funny.
You could not smell a thing in my room when I was stealth....until it opened up and stank up the house and part of the block. I was like damn I should have thought of that. So I worked after 12 am in my room for a long time, hoping to avoid a nosey nose. Lol

So stealth is only as good as the room you work in. Even if the tent is pimp tight.
Sorry for the ramble. Food for thought.
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vent outside the house,lung room gets fresh out side air.good seal on the lung room.all fans get turned off before you enter so the negative pressure balances out.
 
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