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Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

Hi people, my first coco grow after a first failed attempt and it’s not going well. They seem either overwater or nutrient burned although I have flushed them and fed them just ph water I seem to be getting one issue after the other.. Took ages to dry them ip now im scared to get them wet again, no plants seems the same it’s a disaster, just wanting to rip them up and go back to soil now... any kind words of advice ? They popped out the soil on the 9th of march so around 3 weeks old now would be nice if i could just get them to the end and have a smoke atleast.

TreeFarmerCharlie · Mar 30, 2020

Is this soil or coco? You say coco in the beginning but then you say soil later on. Coco should never be dry and you have to constantly feed. Your plants look hungry and unhealthy which leads me to think you are growing them in coco but treating them like they are growing in soil.

MickFoster · Mar 30, 2020

Coco should be fed to substantial run off daily.......twice a day in flower.
Your pH in should be around 6.0.......never plain water, ever.
Never let it dry out......ever.

www.cocoforcannabis.com is the best place to learn the proper way to grow in coco.
Good luck.

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

I think should have used alot more perlite, i never rinsed the coco very well either But is canna, so was a bit compact i re potted them to smaller pots and they rooted better so have out them back in bigger pots see if they take off, But will give that a shot its just difficult keeping them warm enough to have the fan running, see how it goes lol cheers.

coreywebster · Mar 30, 2020

Canna nutrients? What you EC and PH you feeding?

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

TreeFarmerCharlie said:
Is this soil or coco? You say coco in the beginning but then you say soil later on. Coco should never be dry and you have to constantly feed. Your plants look hungry and unhealthy which leads me to think you are growing them in coco but treating them like they are growing in soil.

Its coco sorry just meant go back to soil, cant seem to get it right im going to just feed then and gwt the run off daily and hope for the best

coreywebster · Mar 30, 2020

Mr_d said:
I think should have used alot more perlite, i never rinsed the coco very well either But is canna, so was a bit compact i re potted them to smaller pots and they rooted better so have out them back in bigger pots see if they take off, But will give that a shot its just difficult keeping them warm enough to have the fan running, see how it goes lol cheers.

You don't need to rinse canna coco and you don't need perlite, though lots like to use it.

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

coreywebster said:
Canna nutrients? What you EC and PH you feeding?

Canna a&b and i have calmag and pk13/14 ph is between 5.5 6.5 i havent a clue about ec

coreywebster · Mar 30, 2020

Mr_d said:
Canna a&b and i have calmag and pk13/14 ph is between 5.5 6.5 i havent a clue about ec

The article posted above is golden. But stick to 5.8-6.2 ph and if you don't have an EC ppm truncheon then use 2/3rd dose of recommended on cannas grow guide.
If you have hard water select hard water , if you have soft bump up your calmag a bit.

You cant really overwater coco at this point, adding water adds oxygen.
I assume your not using PK13/14 but have it for mid/late flower.

Grow guide | CANNA UK

www.canna-uk.com

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

I cant justify using the 600 watt hps yet which i should be really but will be the last 4 weeks, they are bcn xxl autos, do you think the colder temps could be playing a part to ?

TreeFarmerCharlie · Mar 30, 2020

Mr_d said:
I cant justify using the 600 watt hps yet which i should be really but will be the last 4 weeks, they are bcn xxl autos, do you think the colder temps could be playing a part to ?

What light are they under now?

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

coreywebster said:
The article posted above is golden. But stick to 5.8-6.2 ph and if you don't have an EC ppm truncheon then use 2/3rd dose of recommended on cannas grow guide.
If you have hard water select hard water , if you have soft bump up your calmag a bit.

You cant really overwater coco at this point, adding water adds oxygen.
I assume your not using PK13/14 but have it for mid/late flower.

Grow guide | CANNA UK

www.canna-uk.com

Yeah your right havent used the pk13/14 yet just there if i need it, water is hard water, i am going to start dosing them with feed and water with good run off at that ph, just seems to go down hill.

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

TreeFarmerCharlie said:
What light are they under now?

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Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

Mr_d said:
Ebay jobbies

Thats the small ones on the first pics i posted re potted

steve870 · Mar 30, 2020

without an ec meter it will be very hard to gauge the right nutrients

TreeFarmerCharlie · Mar 30, 2020

Mr_d said:
Ebay jobbies

That's part of your issue, too, IMO. Your plants are big enough that you should be giving them plenty of light. They need a lot of light to fuel their growth.

Kingkongbud · Mar 30, 2020

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Leeski · Mar 30, 2020

You won’t have to worry if that cat eats ya plants and it will !

TreeFarmerCharlie · Mar 30, 2020

Kingkongbud said:
Here's my King Kong

Nice, but what does that have to do with this thread?

Mr_d · Mar 30, 2020

Leeski said:
You won’t have to worry if that cat eats ya plants and it will !

He

TreeFarmerCharlie said:
That's part of your issue, too, IMO. Your plants are big enough that you should be giving them plenty of light. They need a lot of light to fuel their growth.

time to switch the lights then

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