greenearth5
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what type of grow do you have going on?
Autoflower Thread & Resource Guide
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Dude.. short answer then... if you have premium soil and coco (check the fertiliser content of whatever you bought) you should be able to avoid any veg nutes. Wait until flowering kicks in (at roughly 3 weeks from seed) and then go with a flowering fertiliser. So yeah.. skip the high N veg. But don't start feeding the high P-K until flowering has commenced. Good luck!!
oops - and one final thing to note... autos are generally very nute sensitive... so go easy on them and that's another reason why you shouldn't need to feed them at all/much during vegging period. It all depends on your grow medium though. If you have premium soil + coco... it's much more likely than not... you won't need to bother with nutes during veg. They're not like full on grows in terms of nutes, particularly strains like the lowlife blueberry... the AK ones can take a beating with nutes if you overdo it but the others are much more sensitive generally and will punish you if you balls up. Just go easy on them and give em 1/4 strength feeds to start with. Only other thing to add which might be of use to ya... start them off in the pots you wish to finish them in if you can... 5litre+ ideally.. else you could end up with midgets if your timing is off. G'luck.
wheezgethigh
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damn oh well cool thanks dude
greenearth5
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dude.. that is what i have heard but i dont know of anybody that has tried to clone them and keep them in veg longer... if you try it and it actually does veg longer then totally let us know
kushykushkushy
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i got 10 fem 1 blue ryder, 1 diesel ryder, 1 fem la woman, 1 fem la confidential, 1 sourcream fem dna freebies will veg a month in on the autos so when i harvest the autos i will flower the reg seeds in one of the tents. i also have some more beans on the way. i got fem auto kush frow lowlife cumn an i got some fem diesel ryder comin and some bubba kush from greenhouse fems.
Reiss
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How can RIU delete a pic of your woman when they have pics like this on the site????? -
Lancashire Boi
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Hi all, i read about a type of super yielding autoflower and visited a link to a site about 2 months ago and I just can't find that thread or site anymore. The seeds are very expensive, something like 200 quid for a pack. I vaguely remember the guy that produces these seeds to be from Canada, I think.I think the guy is called Dr. something but im not positive.Its not the joint doctore or dr.chronic if anyone is thinking that. I think one of the types of bud is called autumn flower or moon something. I'm definately not dreamin here. Its in a thread somewhere. So smoking up definately has some play on your short term memory.ha
kushykushkushy
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wakey bakey!!!!!!
Slater13
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Thanks so much for answering that. I have one Road Runner in a coco/ hydroton mix in a 3 gal pot and she loves it.Dude.. short answer then... if you have premium soil and coco (check the fertiliser content of whatever you bought) you should be able to avoid any veg nutes. Wait until flowering kicks in (at roughly 3 weeks from seed) and then go with a flowering fertiliser. So yeah.. skip the high N veg. But don't start feeding the high P-K until flowering has commenced. Good luck!!
oops - and one final thing to note... autos are generally very nute sensitive... so go easy on them and that's another reason why you shouldn't need to feed them at all/much during vegging period. It all depends on your grow medium though. If you have premium soil + coco... it's much more likely than not... you won't need to bother with nutes during veg. They're not like full on grows in terms of nutes, particularly strains like the lowlife blueberry... the AK ones can take a beating with nutes if you overdo it but the others are much more sensitive generally and will punish you if you balls up. Just go easy on them and give em 1/4 strength feeds to start with. Only other thing to add which might be of use to ya... start them off in the pots you wish to finish them in if you can... 5litre+ ideally.. else you could end up with midgets if your timing is off. G'luck.
From what I've read the ak's can yield nicely in bigger pots so since Im going with coco and it aerates so well I figured on 5 gal pots for the ak's. I have plenty of space for them to get bigger so I figured why not.
I started the Road Runner on veg nutes before we switched but not sure the veg nutes were all that necessary which is why I asked.
Got my hands on the new General Organic line so Im anxious to see how they work in coco with more oxygen available. I checked their reccomendations on the nute calculator and it's right on for MJ.
Should be going into pots this afternoon sometime. Two of the 8 have are showing a tap root so it wont be long at all. Gotta get to the store for a few more things.FUCK YA! Woke up this morning, took a piss, smoked a cig and lit a bowl all within the first 10 min of being awake. I love my morning sativa!
kushykushkushy
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i can definitely dig that. im on da fuckin iphone checkin on riu. this shit is my life an im kinda proud of it. i love this shit! my ladies( i got 2 exotic bitches haha) that help fund my ops love wakin me up to head a blunt and shower. the best shit in the world an all the time in the back of my head afta i think bout my son, daughter, mother, im like oooooooooohhhhhhh weeeeeee i cant wait till harverst, i cant wait till these fem seeds get here, i cant wait to count this fuckin money!!!! oh and smoke like a fuckin indian chief!
greenearth5
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i put this post on the 400club but want to post here to ...
i woke up to a suprise this morning... i found 2 male plants and 3 female plants with a 6th plant that i believe is a male.... I have my 400MH going and want to know when i Should switch to the HPS bulb... this is my first MH grow and considering on my last grow that my lowrider got 3 ft tall... im very happy.. but im wondering if i compromised my bud growth by haveing the plants grow shorter? I would be happy with an ounce dry per plant lol but doubt ill get but an ounce dry all together... or will i? hmm
i woke up to a suprise this morning... i found 2 male plants and 3 female plants with a 6th plant that i believe is a male.... I have my 400MH going and want to know when i Should switch to the HPS bulb... this is my first MH grow and considering on my last grow that my lowrider got 3 ft tall... im very happy.. but im wondering if i compromised my bud growth by haveing the plants grow shorter? I would be happy with an ounce dry per plant lol but doubt ill get but an ounce dry all together... or will i? hmm
Reiss
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If they're showing sex, get that HPS on NOW.i put this post on the 400club but want to post here to ...
i woke up to a suprise this morning... i found 2 male plants and 3 female plants with a 6th plant that i believe is a male.... I have my 400MH going and want to know when i Should switch to the HPS bulb... this is my first MH grow and considering on my last grow that my lowrider got 3 ft tall... im very happy.. but im wondering if i compromised my bud growth by haveing the plants grow shorter? I would be happy with an ounce dry per plant lol but doubt ill get but an ounce dry all together... or will i? hmm
Would hate to try and guess the yield at this stage, they look healthy so no reason why you shouldn't get an oz / plant.
How many litres are those grow bags?
My big ak47 grow were all in 8ltr pots.
greenearth5
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they are all in 1/2 gallon grow bags and have alot of room to grow still... ill switch over to HPS tonight but for now i gotta inspection coming thru so i gotta stash them away someplace/somehow 
I actually grow in multiple plants in 3.5 liter pots (a bit over 1/2 gallon) so I can fit more plants in my limited space . Normally average about 20g per plants though up till recently I had only been using a 250hps. So with your fatter light... you could do better. Only thing you need to be more careful of in smaller pot is how much nutes to feed them. They will need more nutes and go through them faster. The plus side is you won't end up with any plants bigger than 2foot max. I would say most of mine are between 1-1.5 foot. Which means they small and cute. Have grown monsters before but these days... I like em small. Call me weird but it works for me. From your 3 plants I would guestimate you should aim for around about 60g. That's a pretty realistic aim to go for. With your HPS you could well get more but you'll only learn the hard way... by doing! Good luck mate! 
greenearth5
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How much bigger do u think they will get now that im switching from 400MH to 400HPS .. yah i totally should have stuck another 6 under there but theres allways next time... any ideas on a good short high yielding strain similiar to lowrider but a higher yielder?
Expect them to grow no bigger than 2 foot... most likely 1-1.5 feet.
Re other strains - I grew some fantastic Blue Lightning seeds from Dutchbreed (http://www.dutchbreed.com/4.html). They're a lowryder mixed with blueberry but work on a 12/12 cycle. They are SUPER quick and super fun to grow... I had quite a few beautiful purple ones. If you like Blueberry (which tastes lovely and has a good high) it's a winner (thc content supposedly 20-25%). Flower time is 5-6 weeks... I had mine veg for about 3 weeks (till the first 3 or 4 sets of leaves grew)... then topped them twice... leaving a few days between each topping... then switched to flower. Took pretty much same time as autoflowers... maybe a week longer max. Ended up with 7 short (1-1.5 foot) plants with 4 cola per plant. Was about 1.5-2oz per plant for me in 3.5 liter pots (though they can go 90-120 grams in ideal conditions and with enough soil!). There are of course others but these are the only ones I can vouch for. On top of that they had an excellent forum for help which proved invaluable.
As far as I am aware there are no alternatives for big yielding autoflowers other than the AK varieties. Also for big yield with autoflowers you need big rootspace. So if you want your plants small bug with large yield you should prob consider a 12/12 grow of some sort. You could take many strains and kick them into flower from an early stage... top them to keep them short and keep their root space confined which is like putting a restraining order on the plant size. Things like SuperSkunk top well... but have a longer flowering time. Hope some of what Ive said helps. Cheers
greenearth5
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sweet that sounds good man.. i like the fruity flavored bud that has a great flavor to it. personally, im not to found of this lowrider bud i grew last time. It didnt yield good (my fault) and didnt taste good. So im trying to find that 1 right strain for me to either clone... or several strains i can throw under the light that will grow fast.. im just not sure what to do but it would be cool to have several strains under one light... on a different note... do you think this 400HPS is to big for these lights.. could i just throw my 150hps above these 3 small female lowriders for a while then switch to the 400 hps? i know 400 is better then 150 but considering my grow wouldnt the small plants benifit just as much from having a 150 as to having a 400? also.. would u rather have 1 female mother and clone her.. or several different auto seeds to put all in together... considering that it would be cheaper haveing a mother plant vs buying seeds... or having 2 of the same plants produce seeds so i can have plenty on hand?
150 would be fine... but you might like to throw in the 400 HPS for the last few weeks - will help fatten things up. 250HPS can only penetrate 2 foot of plant. 150 just over 1 foot. 400... is good for bigger plants. Your call. I think the girls will love 150 or 400... depends how much of an issue electricity costs are and your heat issues... if they aren't a problem use 400 all the way but 150 is absolutely fine for plants 1 foot and under. Sounds like you are spoilt for choice!
You could clone blue lightning btw but then you'd have to forgo autos if you only have 1 space to grow. BTW - you did cure your weed properly from your last auto grow? I think the taste of auto AK is fine.. not the best ever... but v smokable. The blueberry ones are nice. And I'm going to be trying the white moscow's soon. If you screwed up the grow, that could also have had something to do with taste. If you overnuted your plants you could also have been tasting your fertiliser. Always make sure you give straight PH'd water for at least last couple of weeks of a grow. It helps so much it is untrue whether you're using organic or chemical feeds. Prob know that but thought would mention all the same. Cheers.
Slater13
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Right on man. I dont have two women like yourself but I have one great one and I get whatever I want (so does she) and life is good.
Funny thing is it's raining like hell right now and my woman wants to bust out the kush for an afternoon nap. Your screen name reminded me of that.
Anyway, here's what I got today. My lady is going to grow 4 of the ak's in coco and Im going with four in FFOF in 7 gal smart pots. Have about 4-5 gal worth of soil in them so that should be plenty. Got two in dirt and one in coco and waiting for the other 5 to crack. Cant wait to see what they do under a 600w.
sweetsmoker
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i would prfer i think to have a mother as the diff in size and yield varys alot between the plants belonging to the same strain! if u had a gd mum then u know where you are. as for thr lights m8 i wud use the 400w all the way, but i reckon the 150w will still produce decent yield 4 ya. the reason for me sayingb this is that the 3 weeks or so in veg are crucial to the overall plant size and resultant yield. so obviously maximum growth at this stage is desired . i still aint tokk a pic will def do 2 moz had a busy day and night redecorating lol