Aussie Growers Thread

I think I put one up in this thread here a week or so ago mate, just go back a couple pages and it should be there. There is also a post by Lucky Luke not long after it with some additions.



If you use the recipe we put up a few pages back, yep, it should get you through. You'll need to top dress with worm castings, more phosphorus and some potash sulfate in early and mid flower but otherwise, it should last you all the way through :)
Okay will find it now and write it down gor a shopping trip to bunnings does bunnings stock all those matetials?
 
I just looked at the list that is alot of stuff..will bunnings stock it all? And do you need all that to sit for exactly two months? Or can you use it sooner? Also how much grow medium will that all make i only want to do 3 plants in 13.5l potts?
 

Lucky Luke

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I just looked at the list that is alot of stuff..will bunnings stock it all? And do you need all that to sit for exactly two months? Or can you use it sooner? Also how much grow medium will that all make i only want to do 3 plants in 13.5l potts?
The following recipe is in gallons. (American Gallon not English Gallon) 1 gallon is 3 .75 Liters (rounded down). Yes you really do need soil time to cook. This one is 3 to 4 weeks.
You can always go a plain cheap not amended soil (with no dry ferts or anything added) and use Nutrients Canna do a nute line for soil. Bunnings and a good nursery should have all this stuff.(except maybe earth worm casings- Easty did supply a link to a place that sells them online in Aus) Im just repeating stuff Ive found online. Easty is more up to speed on this stuff.

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So you want to go organic but don't know where to start? Here's a recipe for an easy, organic, water-only soil that will provide more than enough nutrition for your plants. It's also a cheaper way to go organic. This soil can be reused again and again, so in the future you can add "extra" amendments if you like, or as your budget allows. The first part of this thread will detail a super easy, basic organic soil mix. This soil mix will grow gorgeous, healthy plants and is easy to make-you don't have to source a million different amendments. This simple soil mix contains all the nutrition that your plants need. All you have to do is water with dechlorinated water.
The next part of the thread will talk about "extra" amendments that you can add, now or for future grows. These amendments are very beneficial and will absolutely improve your soil, but they aren't necessary and you don't have to have them to get started. Please note that all pictures are shown only as a guide, you do not have to buy these specific brands. Get what is available in your area.

Just a note: the best place to buy organic gardening amendments is from a feed/farm store. Hit up google and try to find one in your area. The feed store will have the best selection and prices, and will make the process much easier.

Here's what you need to get started:

Base Soil:
Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss

Aeration amendment (to help with drainage and allow oxygen into the soil). Some common aeration amendments are: perlite, pumice, turface, rice hulls, calcined diatomaceous earth (Napa Auto parts product # ). You only need to pick one of these, and you should choose whatever's cheapest and most easily sourced. If using perlite, make sure that your perlite does not have slow release chemical fertilizers added (Miracle gro perlite has chemical fertilizer added and should be avoided)

Humus (compost/earth worm castings (ewc) ). High quality humus is the key ingredient in an organic soil. Without good humus you've just got a bucket of peat moss and some amendments. You don't have to add both compost and ewc, just one will do, but if you have access to both, the more diversity the better. The bagged manure compost from the store really won't do. Look on craigslist for a local source for compost or ewc. There are some good bagged composts like Coast of Maine bagged composts, Bu's Blend Organic Biodynamic compost, and Farmer D's Organic Biodynamic compost. EWC can be bought on ebay. If your budget won't allow you to buy enough high quality humus (or if you'd have to order it all), buy as much good ewc as you can. Then buy the best bagged compost available in your area. If you want, you can make an ACT with a small amount of the ewc and use it to inoculate the bagged compost. This will increase the viability of the bagged compost.

Nutritional Amendments:
Dry Organic Fertilizer. My favorite is Espoma "tomato tone". Espoma "garden tone" and "plant tone" are also excellent choices. More good choices are Dr. Earth "all purpose" or "tomato and vegetable blend" and Down to Earth "all purpose blend". Use what you have available.
Kelp meal. Kelp meal is a good source of K, but its real value lies in its micronutrient content. Kelp meal contains all the micronutrients your plants need, and it's also full of growth-stimulating plant compounds.

Mineral Amendments:
Lime. Used to neutralize the acidity of the peat moss and help stabilize pH. Look for agricultural lime, garden lime, or dolomite lime. Avoid "fast acting" or "hydrated" lime-these have been treated with chemicals that you do not want in your garden.
Rock Dust. Rock dust helps to mineralize the soil but it's real value is as a "home" for the microbes and an anchor for the fungal hyphae in our soil (see jerry's excellent "rock dust" thread for more info). Dust from igneous rocks like granite, basalt, azomite, glacial rock dust, etc. is what you want. Granite dust can be found very cheaply at a local stone cutting place or at a place that sells mulch/topsoil/gravel/stones. Granite dust is an excellent rock dust and this is the cheapest option.

Now for the soil mix. First you want to make a base mix comprised of peat moss, humus (compost and/or ewc), your aeration amendment of choice, and lime. The soil mix should be about 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 humus, and 1/3 aeration amendment (don't stress out if you add a little too much of one thing or your ratios aren't exact, it will be okay). If you want to use a 50/25/25 ratio of peat moss/perlite/humus, that's fine too. You can use a 5 gallon bucket (or a 1 gallon bucket) to measure. Remember when making your soil that 1 cubic foot = 7.5 gallons. You can use just the plain base soil for starting your seeds and clones.

Note: we are using a 5 gallon bucket to measure, so 1 part=1 full 5 gallon bucket, 1/2 part=1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket, or 2.5 gallons

To make 1 cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of base soil:

1/2 part peat moss
1/2 part humus (compost and/or ewc- can do all compost or all ewc or some mixture of the two)
1/2 part aeration amendment
1 cup lime (per cubic foot)


Nutritional amendments: you want to add about 2-3 cups total of all your nutritional amendments per cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of soil. Note that this means 2-3 cups total, a combination of all your nutritional amendments, not 2-3 cups of each amendment.
1 cup kelp meal
1.5 cups dry organic fertilizer


Mineral amendment: now add 4 cups of your rock dust per cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of soil

Mix all the above ingredients well. Now moisten the soil by adding water and mixing until the soil is about as damp as a well-wrung out sponge. Now let the soil sit for 3-4 weeks to allow the microbes to begin to break down the amendments and convert the nutrients into a form that the plant can use. This process of nutrient cycling is also referred to as "cooking". Neither heat nor the sun are required, the soil can "cook" inside just fine. You can go ahead and fill up the pots you plan to use and let the soil "cook" in the pots. You can moisten the soil with an ACT if desired to help jump-start the nutrient cycling process."

https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/easy-organic-soil-mix-for-beginners.1116550/
 
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eastcoastmo

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I just looked at the list that is alot of stuff..will bunnings stock it all? And do you need all that to sit for exactly two months? Or can you use it sooner? Also how much grow medium will that all make i only want to do 3 plants in 13.5l potts?
Stuff like azomite, rock dust, worm castings you'll have to get online but the rest you should be able to get at bunnings. This is all for an organic soil that you just water. You can use soil and a nutrient line as @Lucky Luke mentioned but it is just as expensive, if not more than making a good organic soil. You do have to let it cook to allow the micro organisms to begin breaking down the nutrients (chelation ita called) into a form that the roots can uptake.
 

Lucky Luke

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Just to refresh everyone's memory, this is my soil mix

Ingredients.
Mushroom compost
Kelpo mix potting mix (a kelp based potting mix)
Dynamic lifter
Chicken shit
Clay kitty litter
Dolomite lime
Perlite
I think thats all

Cooked/seasoned - is the same soil from the same pots I used last year.

Ive already had to add Silica, Cal/Mag, and Seasol powerfeed (red)
 

Colanoscopy

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Cheers man. That was my first build. 1sq foot of floor space. 90w light.

This is my new setup. 3sq foot floor space. And 180w 3500k Vero 29C cobs.View attachment 3976550
That's much better bro. Still a small space in my opinion but if it works for you it's right init. I'm building a COB myself
https://www.rollitup.org/t/colas-big-citi-lights.943861/page-3#post-13645629

That's my build so far. And I'm at day 36 on my wwxbb under 600w hps. Did you build your cob or buy a kit mate
 

Nugachino

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I only manifolded my last one to about a dozen heads. Got me a decent amount considering I didnt even utilize the space to its fullest. Haven't had the new box long enough to see how that fares.

And yeah. I built that bigger light from parts. I used cutter electronics to source everything.
 

Colanoscopy

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I only manifolded my last one to about a dozen heads. Got me a decent amount considering I didnt even utilize the space to its fullest. Haven't had the new box long enough to see how that fares.

And yeah. I built that bigger light from parts. I used cutter electronics to source everything.
I sourced my parts from all over the place. Driver from mouser. Citileds from ebay. Heatsinks ebay. Premier fasteners for the eye bolts. Ammeter from ebay. Cost a small fortune so far and I still wanna add more to it ha. You got a thread going for your vero run. Wouldn't mind subbing and seeing how you do. Plus being one of your pommy cousins Im probably not welcome in an aussie thread Ha
 
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