Lucky Luke
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Nice mate.
After the trials over summer you deserve a good run.
Aussie Growers Thread
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After the trials over summer you deserve a good run.
Lucky Luke
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Im not familiar with that medium so im useless to you.
I tend to make up my own soil mix but it has been to hot at times. I think the key is to keep the soil nice and light and avoid time release ferts when in pots (in the ground they seem to work well).
What set up are you going to be doing?
eastcoastmo
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I make up my own soil too, mostly with bunnings additives but I also buy a few other things online.
My recipe is:
50L bags of mushroom compost
25L of garden soil
25L worm castings
25L of composted cow manure
1kg of kelp meal
1kg of alfalfa meal
2 cups of blood n bone
2 cups of garden lime (I add the magnesium sulfate during watering)
1 cup of azomite
1 cup potash
1 cup of organic phosphorus (guano)
1-2 cups of neem meal
Let it 'cook' for about 2 months and she's ready to go. This usually gets me through flowering but I water with compost tea every 3 weeks and I top dress with potash, worm castings and phosphorus in the first few weeks/last few weeks of flower
Lucky Luke
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Where do you get the worm castings from? I cannot find them
No perlite in ya mix?
No perlite in ya mix?
eastcoastmo
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I make my own worm castings or buy them on ebay mate!
Shit, yeah forgot to add 1 brick of organic coco and 30L of perlite. Cheers for picking that up dude!
Yeh hopefully it will be a good season . my autos are a back up plan hoping to harvest 100 autos at Xmas time outdoors
aussieonline
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Thanks @Lucky Luke and @eastcoastmo I have mostly Indica dominate strains which ill be growing under 2 x 600watt LED and a 300watt LED i might not use all my grow lights just yet since its my first grow i need to dial everything in but I have 2 rooms setup flowering and veg room with mylar walls, its a pretty nice setup. I'm curious to know if anyone uses 'Canna Terra Professional' as an out of bag medium because it doesn't seem like we can get Fox Farm here. I don't trust myself mixing my own soil up as I'm a first timer...
Do a google search and look online at your local hydro store for 'Canna Terra Professional' soil and let me know what you think, i would some info straight of there site too, its not much detail though.
Canna Terra Professional
Do a google search and look online at your local hydro store for 'Canna Terra Professional' soil and let me know what you think, i would some info straight of there site too, its not much detail though.
Canna Terra Professional
- Exclusive, high grade ingredients such as airy peat moss and different types of tree bark (as a substitute for perlite) are components of CANNA Terra Professional Plus. They have an antiseptic effect and increase aeration qualities. This has a direct result in promoting exceptional root development and formation of thicker stems.
- CANNA Terra Professional Plus is enriched with special feeding mixes, containing all the elements plants need during their first week, meaning no additional feeding is needed at that time!
- The medium is also pH-adjusted for long-term control with a lime charge large enough to last an entire cycle.
- It has a mineral-nutrient starter charge that adjusts the initial level of nutrients up to a good beginning charge, correcting the ratios to work perfectly with CANNA TERRA nutrients.
Lucky Luke
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I just did a mock up in my tent for plant count and scrog set up.
I havent the room I thought. When using 400m (25L) pots i can only get 4 comfortably. I have 6 seedling's.
I was hoping to have 4 under the main scrog and have two separate pots to the side with their own net (see pics). This would allow access down that side with the individual pots removed. I have some decor self watering pots that are fairly small (some may remember I had a reveg in one over summer). The Pineapple #2 will have to go into those and ill be heavy handed with them. Being regs it aint worth the risk to have them under the scrog, but they look like they would suit a scrog.
Plants are 4 weeks old from seed and were topped for the first time yesterday.
Heres a pic of my cheap arse complete kit.
I havent the room I thought. When using 400m (25L) pots i can only get 4 comfortably. I have 6 seedling's.
I was hoping to have 4 under the main scrog and have two separate pots to the side with their own net (see pics). This would allow access down that side with the individual pots removed. I have some decor self watering pots that are fairly small (some may remember I had a reveg in one over summer). The Pineapple #2 will have to go into those and ill be heavy handed with them. Being regs it aint worth the risk to have them under the scrog, but they look like they would suit a scrog.
Plants are 4 weeks old from seed and were topped for the first time yesterday.
Heres a pic of my cheap arse complete kit.
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eastcoastmo
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The Canna soil is pretty good, fairly expensive for what it is. There's also a company in Australia that makes super soil too, I'll find out who they are and post up a link, a mate of mine is using their soil and he's killing it!
eastcoastmo
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Looks ok to me mate, nice and clean!!
Lucky Luke
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Sounds like a very nice set up.
Im not experienced enough to comment on your medium but i have seen the nutes your talking about and maybe the Canna medium at my local (very small) hydro shop. I dont think any seedling needs feeding in the first week or two. Dont use bark if u can help it.
I should of bought the Canna soil nutrient for flower but i didnt take my time and bought the drain to waste one. Ill just have to be careful on the application rate when i get that far.
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Lucky Luke
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and...dont my soil look the business!?(in da big pots)
Ingredients.
Mushroom compost
Kelpo mix potting mix (a kelp based potting mix)
Dynamic lifter
Chicken shit
Clay kitty litter
Dolomite lime
Perlite
I think thats all
Cooked/seasoned - is the same soil from the same pots I used last year.
Ingredients.
Mushroom compost
Kelpo mix potting mix (a kelp based potting mix)
Dynamic lifter
Chicken shit
Clay kitty litter
Dolomite lime
Perlite
I think thats all
Cooked/seasoned - is the same soil from the same pots I used last year.
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Lucky Luke
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100? lmao..You dont do things by 1/2s do ya
Gotta make up for last years loss haha. I'll properly use another 10 fem autos and 5 auto males to make a few thousand auto seeds for next year. No need to buy auto seeds anymore now that I have an ongoing breeding program with them. Also crossed fem photo ghost train haze 1 over fem gorilla glue auto for shits and giggles . if the photo auto cross works out like last season then I should end up with 2 to 3 foot tall semi autos maybe 75'/, percent auto
aussieonline
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@eastcoastmo thanks for the response, yeah would be awesome if you could find out who makes that 'super soil' in Australia I looked it up and i found nothing, just all about how to make your own ...super soil... not sure if there's a company in Australia called super soil or what I'm looking for. Hope the grows go well @Lucky Luke
eastcoastmo
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Here you go bud https://www.livingsoil.com.au/shop/kits/living-organic-soil-50l-geopot-starter-kit/ check the site out, they have quite a few things! Not cheap but it works well.
Lucky Luke
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i nearly had a heart attack at the prices
eastcoastmo
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Me too man, it's why I make my own lol.
Lucky Luke
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I found this easy soil recipe @aussieonline
So you want to go organic but don't know where to start? Here's a recipe for an easy, organic, water-only soil that will provide more than enough nutrition for your plants. It's also a cheaper way to go organic. This soil can be reused again and again, so in the future you can add "extra" amendments if you like, or as your budget allows. The first part of this thread will detail a super easy, basic organic soil mix. This soil mix will grow gorgeous, healthy plants and is easy to make-you don't have to source a million different amendments. This simple soil mix contains all the nutrition that your plants need. All you have to do is water with dechlorinated water.
The next part of the thread will talk about "extra" amendments that you can add, now or for future grows. These amendments are very beneficial and will absolutely improve your soil, but they aren't necessary and you don't have to have them to get started. Please note that all pictures are shown only as a guide, you do not have to buy these specific brands. Get what is available in your area.
Just a note: the best place to buy organic gardening amendments is from a feed/farm store. Hit up google and try to find one in your area. The feed store will have the best selection and prices, and will make the process much easier.
Here's what you need to get started:
Base Soil:
Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss
Aeration amendment (to help with drainage and allow oxygen into the soil). Some common aeration amendments are: perlite, pumice, turface, rice hulls, calcined diatomaceous earth (Napa Auto parts product # ). You only need to pick one of these, and you should choose whatever's cheapest and most easily sourced. If using perlite, make sure that your perlite does not have slow release chemical fertilizers added (Miracle gro perlite has chemical fertilizer added and should be avoided)
Humus (compost/earth worm castings (ewc) ). High quality humus is the key ingredient in an organic soil. Without good humus you've just got a bucket of peat moss and some amendments. You don't have to add both compost and ewc, just one will do, but if you have access to both, the more diversity the better. The bagged manure compost from the store really won't do. Look on craigslist for a local source for compost or ewc. There are some good bagged composts like Coast of Maine bagged composts, Bu's Blend Organic Biodynamic compost, and Farmer D's Organic Biodynamic compost. EWC can be bought on ebay. If your budget won't allow you to buy enough high quality humus (or if you'd have to order it all), buy as much good ewc as you can. Then buy the best bagged compost available in your area. If you want, you can make an ACT with a small amount of the ewc and use it to inoculate the bagged compost. This will increase the viability of the bagged compost.
Nutritional Amendments:
Dry Organic Fertilizer. My favorite is Espoma "tomato tone". Espoma "garden tone" and "plant tone" are also excellent choices. More good choices are Dr. Earth "all purpose" or "tomato and vegetable blend" and Down to Earth "all purpose blend". Use what you have available.
Kelp meal. Kelp meal is a good source of K, but its real value lies in its micronutrient content. Kelp meal contains all the micronutrients your plants need, and it's also full of growth-stimulating plant compounds.
Mineral Amendments:
Lime. Used to neutralize the acidity of the peat moss and help stabilize pH. Look for agricultural lime, garden lime, or dolomite lime. Avoid "fast acting" or "hydrated" lime-these have been treated with chemicals that you do not want in your garden.
Rock Dust. Rock dust helps to mineralize the soil but it's real value is as a "home" for the microbes and an anchor for the fungal hyphae in our soil (see jerry's excellent "rock dust" thread for more info). Dust from igneous rocks like granite, basalt, azomite, glacial rock dust, etc. is what you want. Granite dust can be found very cheaply at a local stone cutting place or at a place that sells mulch/topsoil/gravel/stones. Granite dust is an excellent rock dust and this is the cheapest option.
Now for the soil mix. First you want to make a base mix comprised of peat moss, humus (compost and/or ewc), your aeration amendment of choice, and lime. The soil mix should be about 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 humus, and 1/3 aeration amendment (don't stress out if you add a little too much of one thing or your ratios aren't exact, it will be okay). If you want to use a 50/25/25 ratio of peat moss/perlite/humus, that's fine too. You can use a 5 gallon bucket (or a 1 gallon bucket) to measure. Remember when making your soil that 1 cubic foot = 7.5 gallons. You can use just the plain base soil for starting your seeds and clones.
Note: we are using a 5 gallon bucket to measure, so 1 part=1 full 5 gallon bucket, 1/2 part=1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket, or 2.5 gallons
To make 1 cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of base soil:
1/2 part peat moss
1/2 part humus (compost and/or ewc- can do all compost or all ewc or some mixture of the two)
1/2 part aeration amendment
1 cup lime (per cubic foot)
Nutritional amendments: you want to add about 2-3 cups total of all your nutritional amendments per cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of soil. Note that this means 2-3 cups total, a combination of all your nutritional amendments, not 2-3 cups of each amendment.
1 cup kelp meal
1.5 cups dry organic fertilizer
Mineral amendment: now add 4 cups of your rock dust per cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of soil
Mix all the above ingredients well. Now moisten the soil by adding water and mixing until the soil is about as damp as a well-wrung out sponge. Now let the soil sit for 3-4 weeks to allow the microbes to begin to break down the amendments and convert the nutrients into a form that the plant can use. This process of nutrient cycling is also referred to as "cooking". Neither heat nor the sun are required, the soil can "cook" inside just fine. You can go ahead and fill up the pots you plan to use and let the soil "cook" in the pots. You can moisten the soil with an ACT if desired to help jump-start the nutrient cycling process.
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/easy-organic-soil-mix-for-beginners.1116550/
@ruby fruit my have one to?
So you want to go organic but don't know where to start? Here's a recipe for an easy, organic, water-only soil that will provide more than enough nutrition for your plants. It's also a cheaper way to go organic. This soil can be reused again and again, so in the future you can add "extra" amendments if you like, or as your budget allows. The first part of this thread will detail a super easy, basic organic soil mix. This soil mix will grow gorgeous, healthy plants and is easy to make-you don't have to source a million different amendments. This simple soil mix contains all the nutrition that your plants need. All you have to do is water with dechlorinated water.
The next part of the thread will talk about "extra" amendments that you can add, now or for future grows. These amendments are very beneficial and will absolutely improve your soil, but they aren't necessary and you don't have to have them to get started. Please note that all pictures are shown only as a guide, you do not have to buy these specific brands. Get what is available in your area.
Just a note: the best place to buy organic gardening amendments is from a feed/farm store. Hit up google and try to find one in your area. The feed store will have the best selection and prices, and will make the process much easier.
Here's what you need to get started:
Base Soil:
Nutritional Amendments:
Mineral Amendments:
Now for the soil mix. First you want to make a base mix comprised of peat moss, humus (compost and/or ewc), your aeration amendment of choice, and lime. The soil mix should be about 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 humus, and 1/3 aeration amendment (don't stress out if you add a little too much of one thing or your ratios aren't exact, it will be okay). If you want to use a 50/25/25 ratio of peat moss/perlite/humus, that's fine too. You can use a 5 gallon bucket (or a 1 gallon bucket) to measure. Remember when making your soil that 1 cubic foot = 7.5 gallons. You can use just the plain base soil for starting your seeds and clones.
Note: we are using a 5 gallon bucket to measure, so 1 part=1 full 5 gallon bucket, 1/2 part=1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket, or 2.5 gallons
To make 1 cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of base soil:
1/2 part peat moss
1/2 part humus (compost and/or ewc- can do all compost or all ewc or some mixture of the two)
1/2 part aeration amendment
1 cup lime (per cubic foot)
Nutritional amendments: you want to add about 2-3 cups total of all your nutritional amendments per cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of soil. Note that this means 2-3 cups total, a combination of all your nutritional amendments, not 2-3 cups of each amendment.
1 cup kelp meal
1.5 cups dry organic fertilizer
Mineral amendment: now add 4 cups of your rock dust per cubic foot (7.5 gallons) of soil
Mix all the above ingredients well. Now moisten the soil by adding water and mixing until the soil is about as damp as a well-wrung out sponge. Now let the soil sit for 3-4 weeks to allow the microbes to begin to break down the amendments and convert the nutrients into a form that the plant can use. This process of nutrient cycling is also referred to as "cooking". Neither heat nor the sun are required, the soil can "cook" inside just fine. You can go ahead and fill up the pots you plan to use and let the soil "cook" in the pots. You can moisten the soil with an ACT if desired to help jump-start the nutrient cycling process.
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/easy-organic-soil-mix-for-beginners.1116550/
@ruby fruit my have one to?
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