Okay, lets' take it point by point since you brought this up:
..How about the Govs. remote seers who have located downed aircraft on the other side of the world,or accuratly drawn military facilities in Siberia?Rare,yes,but the odds are beyond astronomical....
This hasn't been established, this is simply a claim you made with no support. So, no point made...
Sorry no links google them and U might get something.the Ruskies used them first,We then started during ,I believe,the Clinton era(maybe before).There were a few jaw dropping sucesses reported,who knows what was stamped secret.Disbanded after 3 or 4 years.
No jaw dropping successes given, again just you making a claim with no support. We know that your facts can be WAY off as you stated disbanded after 3-4 years, Heis showed that the time span was 24 years...
Your lack of information on the U.S.remote viewing program is blinding.The locating of the crashed U.S.plane was widly reported when the program was declassified. Why do U say the crash is secret I didn't say so, and U don't know....Remote viewing HAS been tested(don't tell me U didn't know that).Some people consistently out perform random chance in controled tests.I hardly think a magicians performance is a valid test.
You haven't supported this, just another claim...
I've answered this,they hid objects and some people were able to beat random chance.I didn't say the tests not valid .I said doing it for a magicin in a nightclub is not valid.When they located the plane I'm sure they went there to get recorders,loose bombs, bodies,etc..As for reports links,etc..I'm not the skeptic ,you are ,do your own homework as U said easy..
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Again, just claims. Why should anyone believe you? You challenged Heis to do your homework for you, he did so, and the results were very different than your claims. It seems the actual evidence is against your claims, not for them...
My statements are not claims,just statements of fact.If U are not curious to check it out so be it,Not worth my time to educate a wilfully in the dark naysayer.Magicians were your go to group to prove whether remote viewing was valid or not,last I heard they haunted clubs,theaters etc.not labs.Debate rule#2,do some opposition research,other than"I know U are but what am I.
Just because you say your statements are fact doesn't make them so, that's why credible links are so important in debate and why without them, rational people can simply dismiss the point you are trying to make...
................CIA.run project Stargate yielded considerable scientific evidence for the reality of the phenomenon"...."Growing #s of individuals could be found to demonstrate high Quality remote viewing such as Hellen Hammond"....In 2nd yr.Pat Price was assigned to provide data on a soviet site of operational significance...."Several details conserning the technology of the Soviet Palatinsk site appear to dovetail with data from other sources".It was noted this was not the projects greatest success.Didn't locate the plane but it is out there.I do not believe your cut and paste indicated the phenom was fake ,bogus or did not exist,just that it was not up to a very high standard but does not question the phenominas ACTUAL EXISTANCE.
It's obvious that it is very important to you that this phenomena has merit. They weren't trying to disprove the phenomena, they were attempting to prove it. And they aparantly couldn't. This doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it just means that even after decades and untold millions of dollars they couldn't prove anything. That's as good as non-existent in my book. Then again, I don't have a vested emotional interest in this ability existing...
Yes I no doubt did not chose my words as carefully as I should have.My haste was due to the fact that the poster was denying the existance of Project Stargate,yet he had never heard of it......NO ACTUAL BENIFIT.....DISCREDITED...Neither of these mean nonexistant and I have seen no statements that it is NONEXISTANT.The original Question was name a supernatural phenomina.Well if remote viewing is not nonexistant....point made....On a lighter side many,many women share a power with the super hero, Shadow...."the ability to cloud mens minds
So, you started off with your statements as fact and refuse to do simple research. Somebody does it for you that goes against your claims and you move the goalpost from 'I'm stating facts' to 'it doesn't prove it doesn't exist'. Lastly, you attempt to backpedal out of your statements, but you're not fooling anyone here with that, either. If I were you, I would just say I was mistaken and give up, your refusal to do so simply takes away from your credibility...
