Atheism

if you have to keep convincing your self , what is the point

DJBoxhouse said:

*Tosses back random snarkey Hipster retort in rebuttal of your claims towards there being a greater deep space tea deity than my own.* THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

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You're from London! That explains it.
As soon as I moved from there last month, you kettle-ites probably thought the coast was clear to spread your cockmamie black kettle theory to the masses.

I'm sending my flock to track you down. The price of apostasy will be steeped! Prepare to be creamed!

robert 14617 said:

if you have to keep convincing your self , what is the point

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It isn't about convincing yourself. It's about educating the masses. Eliminating bad information and straight up propaganda. It's about "fighting" fair.

Religious fundamentalists, the type who want to push their fairy tale in the science classroom and the ones who claim we live in a "Christian nation" PUSH propaganda, they spend millions of dollars on things like The Discovery Institute and their little follow up "museum of natural history" that depicts dinosaurs walking along side man... Then they parade CHILDREN though there and tell em this is how it happened.. That's nothing short of BRAINWASHING. It's MIND CONTROL. I don't stand for that shit, especially if I see it online where I can actually actively say something about it, like I do on this forum. It's easy for other people with any sort of intelligence or honesty to see which side is right and which side is wrong. That's what people like Babs, fish, GC, Shroomer don't get. Their attempts are pointless, we've heard it ALL before. ALL of their arguments they've ever brought up are completely unoriginal, coppied right off talkorigins.org or answersingenesis.com... None of them realize they just parrot the same stupid shit over and over again. It's because of that, stuff like "yeah, well there's no transitional fossils..." and "we didn't come from monkeys"... Stuff they cover in elementary biology classes, in 10th grade.

I don't know what it is... ignorance? Absolutely, they ignore actual data and fill in the blanks with what the Bible has to say...

Arrogance? In Babs case, absolutely, she's an insanely arrogant fundie if I've ever came across one. Positive she's right in her beliefs, unwilling to see anything from another perspective, she's also pretty rude actually too. Projects a lot, sits a top her horse way up in the sky wallowing in her own unreachable self righteousness...

Stupidity? I don't think any of them are stupid. They just can't let go of the mental block in their mind that tells them information is evil, I think some of them are deathly afraid of the thought of non existence and can't fathom an existence where that's possible. Maybe they havn't even gotten that far.. who knows. None of them ever communicate an original opinion or thought, instead they only wish to discredit evolution, the big bang, or other valid scientific theories they don't know anything about...

The only thing left to feel is honest, genuine pity, because they don't know what they're missing, and they don't even realize it.

morgentaler said:

You're from London! That explains it.
As soon as I moved from there last month, you kettle-ites probably thought the coast was clear to spread your cockmamie black kettle theory to the masses.

I'm sending my flock to track you down. The price of apostasy will be steeped! Prepare to be creamed!

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We fear no evil, for our kind is one with the purity and retribution of our gods great word standing before us.

You shall know fear Heathen!

On a lighter note though, where'd you move to? What's the scoop?

DJBoxhouse said:

We fear no evil, for our kind is one with the purity and retribution of our gods great word standing before us.

You shall know fear Heathen!

On a lighter note though, where'd you move to? What's the scoop?

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Ha! No tea puns! You a not a true tea leafer believer!

Moved to PEI. It's pretty cool to see the sky at night, but all the women over 25 are religious and addicted to food. On the plus side that just means I have to look for younger women.

We may have to unite our religions of pot/kettle against the dreaded peyote tea drinkers. Crazy hippies! They don't even drink it hot!

Blasphemers.

PadawanBater said:

ALL of their arguments they've ever brought up are completely unoriginal, coppied right off talkorigins.org or answersingenesis.com...

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The Counter Creationist Handbook really opened my eyes to how insane some of the people are out there.

Some are really dedicated, crafting extensive documents that would sound right to someone who hasn't actually read the science before, but are extensively cherry picked. So, as long as you don't actually go read the sources and see the rest of the original document, it sounds legit.

And heavy quote mining, like the "Darwin's Eye" argument that always quotes the paragraph where he says the eye is so complex as to seem impossible to evolve.

Haven't seen one fundie yet that acknowledges that the next several pages then go on to explain that it may seem impossible, but this it how it worked.

Though i don't expect them to have actually taken the original quote from a copy of The Origin of Species. Just from a fundie website, with none of the additional text.

They aren't even human... Them with there 'different beliefs' and 'opinions.' Why can't they be like normal people and follow. By follow I mean, follow the good wold of Jesus, my, and hopefully your personal lord and savoir of course! amen.
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On another note,
PEI sounds awesome, small crowed. If I could find peyote....I'd be quite the happy fellow, but being where I am it's even hard to score lsd.
As for the women issue, thats some pretty tough cookies right there, but good luck! There was this girl who transferred to my highschool when I was a few years younger, born and raised from PEI. She was hot as shit, proper Irish girl too, the hot type of ginger kid. Was real nice.

Enjoy the stars. And hopefully the women.

stink finger said:

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------win!

I love that warning. Perfect.

When I was six or seven, a couple of door knockers showed up and tried to convert my mother. She was more tolerant then, and didn't chase them off the property.

But anyway she said she wasn't interested, and they offered her a children's bible for me to read. So I take it, all excited, and go read the thing cover to cover. And when I was done, I stuck it on the bookshelf, beside Tanglewood Tales, and Norse Legends.

Nobody had ever told me about religion, for or against. It was just another bunch of stories. But for some reason the hero murders people and animals in floods, and does all kinds of crazy, crap to them, just for spite.

And then one day at school someone asks me if I go to church. No.
Religious kid: Do you believe in God?
Me: Do I believe in god? You mean the god in the bible? You're kidding, right? You know it's just a bunch of stories, right?
Religious kid: THE BIBLE IS TRUE!

And thus began the fight against religious jerkoffs everywhere.

You should have seen the look on one kids face when I torched a bible in front of him just to show him I wasn't going to be hit by lightning.

Yes, that's right fundies. I burned your holy book. I fired up those lovely onionskin paper pages right after it was forced on me by my public school principal. Yes, she took a bunch of 10 year olds into the AV room and tried to convert/save us, and then made every child take a bible.

Your priests molest our children, and your evangelists rape their minds.
Religion is just looking for a hole to fill, whether it's your heart or an 8 year old.

Enlighten? You mean like when they arrested Galileo for saying that the Earth revolved around the Sun, or when Columbus said the earth was round. How come they didn't arrest Columbus?

morgentaler said:

Religion is just looking for a hole to fill, whether it's your heart or an 8 year old.

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A sig worthy statement my friend!

morgentaler said:

Why do we talk about god, and the ridiculous notion of worshiping the main character in a book of fiction?

Because religious assholes keep trying to put their murderous deity in our schools and government.
Because religious assholes think it's okay to deny people equal rights because of a passage in a 2000 year old book written by racists and homophobes.
Because religious assholes have murdered people throughout history for the singular fact that they did not worship their god.

I think those three points by themselves are an excellent case for discussing the total abolishment of this dogmatic bullshit, and the hypocrisy and sickness of it all.

When religion stops forcing itself on us, we'll stop pushing back.


* and although not all religious people are asshole, their adherence to a book that promotes exactly those asshole values puts them right in the category with the other pricks.

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You have an issue with religion, not God. The two are not one in the same, as you are assuming.

DaBull said:

Enlighten? You mean like when they arrested Galileo for saying that the Earth revolved around the Sun, or when Columbus said the earth was round. How come they didn't arrest Columbus?

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Columbus was arrested, but not for heresy, or even introducing syphilis to the Continent.

It was political; orchestrated by his enemies. For the atrocities Columbus committed in service to Spain were sanctioned by the Catholic Church and the Court of King Ferdinand.

The entire matter was dropped once he was permitted to plead his case before the King.

im a TRUE believer in my HIGHER POWER and it sure doesnt have to do with fuckin ATHEISM.. get a grip man

DJBoxhouse said:

English breakfast or earl gray? Find me a proof for that and I'll believe in your 'God.'

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It has to be English breakfast all the way, wether its the silver teapot or the black kettle, they will both lead the way through the English Breakfast. Earl grey is the evil temptation of the teas-maid, you must resist.

CrackerJax said:

I'm in the same boat JO. I don't know what created everything we are aware of. It's okay to admit you don't know.

The probability that a G*D created the universe for us and G*D is watching everything we do and judging all of our deeds.....that I simply place at the bottom of probability.

Besides, that's why we have Obama. He judges us all, he's making a list, and checking it twice.....wait I cross myth'd... sorry.

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In other words, the best theory you can come up with.

PadawanBater said:

It isn't about convincing yourself. It's about educating the masses. Eliminating bad information and straight up propaganda. It's about "fighting" fair.

Religious fundamentalists, the type who want to push their fairy tale in the science classroom and the ones who claim we live in a "Christian nation" PUSH propaganda, they spend millions of dollars on things like The Discovery Institute and their little follow up "museum of natural history" that depicts dinosaurs walking along side man... Then they parade CHILDREN though there and tell em this is how it happened.. That's nothing short of BRAINWASHING. It's MIND CONTROL. I don't stand for that shit, especially if I see it online where I can actually actively say something about it, like I do on this forum. It's easy for other people with any sort of intelligence or honesty to see which side is right and which side is wrong. That's what people like Babs, fish, GC, Shroomer don't get. Their attempts are pointless, we've heard it ALL before. ALL of their arguments they've ever brought up are completely unoriginal, coppied right off talkorigins.org or answersingenesis.com... None of them realize they just parrot the same stupid shit over and over again. It's because of that, stuff like "yeah, well there's no transitional fossils..." and "we didn't come from monkeys"... Stuff they cover in elementary biology classes, in 10th grade.

I don't know what it is... ignorance? Absolutely, they ignore actual data and fill in the blanks with what the Bible has to say...

Arrogance? In Babs case, absolutely, she's an insanely arrogant fundie if I've ever came across one. Positive she's right in her beliefs, unwilling to see anything from another perspective, she's also pretty rude actually too. Projects a lot, sits a top her horse way up in the sky wallowing in her own unreachable self righteousness...

Stupidity? I don't think any of them are stupid. They just can't let go of the mental block in their mind that tells them information is evil, I think some of them are deathly afraid of the thought of non existence and can't fathom an existence where that's possible. Maybe they havn't even gotten that far.. who knows. None of them ever communicate an original opinion or thought, instead they only wish to discredit evolution, the big bang, or other valid scientific theories they don't know anything about...

The only thing left to feel is honest, genuine pity, because they don't know what they're missing, and they don't even realize it.

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If you want to make me a topic of your thread, you ought to invite me first.

Positive she's right in her beliefs, unwilling to see anything from another perspective, she's also pretty rude actually too. Projects a lot, sits a top her horse way up in the sky wallowing in her own unreachable self righteousness...
LOL, care to drop a link from the thread that exhibits your "theory?" You love making an ass of yourself, don't you?