Soil-less mixes vs dirt

tstick

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There are a few discussions about how you don't have to pH your water if you grow in soil because the soil, itself, will naturally buffer the pH. It is my belief that this is a misconception.

I have a vegetable garden outside and I am always amazed at how much "stuff" is going on in every scoop of dirt. There are little crawlies and worms and all kinds of pebbles and organic things growing and moving around in it. However, one of the goals of my soil-LESS mix is to avoid getting those same bugs and have a more-or-less "sterile" medium.

My contention is that all the stuff in my garden-dirt is acting to balance and buffer things. Indoors, my soil -less mix has no ability to work that way. I think it's important for growers to realize that they are not going to get a buffered soil from a soil-less mix. Even with added microbes, there isn't going to be the same synergy found in real dirt. As a result, growers using soil-less mixes, should always check their pH runoff and do slurry tests to make sure that they are in a proper pH range.

You SHOULD do runoff tests and slurry tests if you are running in soil-less. As inaccurate as it may seem, the results can clue you in whenever there is an obvious pH problem. They may not show you if the pH is 6.2 or 6.5, but they can give indication when the pH is 4.0 or 8.0!
 

chuckeye

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Couldn't agree Less :mrgreen:

I run ProMix HP in 5 gallon pails with GroBuckets. The medium comes ph buffered with Dolomitic and Calcitic limestone.

My well waters ppm is ~500 and the ph is ~7.5

No ph down, No testing run off. Nothing but Mega Crop one part, now @ 5g/gallon !

Cafe Racer, a 70% sativa dominant hybrid. Topped once and trained sideways to two feet.

She is now an inch short of FIVE feet tall, day 32 of 12/12 for a total of 85 days.:weed:

Check out the condition of the bottom fan leaves !

4 Apr Cafe Racer day 32 of 85.jpg

Cheers
 
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Tvanmunhen

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I grow without adjusting the pH using Dr. Earth homegrown and flower girl. Been doing it now for a few years with decent results. I use a reservoir full of tap water that gets topped off every week or two. As a hobby grower I tend to do things as lazy as possible. Sometimes I don't even open my tent for 2 weeks

My medium is Pro mix currently but I've used all sorts of different soils. Cheap soil from home Depot or Walmart has done fine. My plants haven't been picture perfect but I have no complaints. In the long run I end up with tasty jars of weed. :weed:
 

pahpah-cee

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I have indoor and outdoor beds that are soilless. I don’t water to run off and I would never PH my water. I also have lots of outdoor gardens that are in true soil (lots of clay).

I hate using PH pens.
 
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