PSUAGRO.
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Are you gonna take my advice about the Epsom salts^^^^ Oh and get your PH in check brother/ the quick def/lock? progression is worrying me.........good luck SDS
Astir Grow Led Panel Project...
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stardustsailor
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No worries...I Didn't say it was left in the luck, certainly not by you
weedman asked a question and said his heatsink seemed hot, so I just shared how to calculate it (as I learned it from knna)
that's all mate
stardustsailor
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I did feed MgSO4 & KNO3 ...
Now,we wait......
I'm into researchin' if any root alterations from red dominant spectrum at veg to WW dominant spectrum at bloom ..
(previous WR 's roots... )...
I think I maybe 've found somethin'...
Gooood....
Later on ....I 've to confirm it,first...
PetFlora
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I am beginning to think that big-ass primary leaves are a response to too much light intensity (especially during veg), and/or a combination of the wrong spectral balance.
As I added CW + WW to the R/B ufo, I have noticed the primary leaves shrink, but did not put 2 + 2 together that once I bean providing the spectral balance they need/prefer, they backed off. Where they looked very Indica like, they now look very Sat like.
Thoughts?
As I added CW + WW to the R/B ufo, I have noticed the primary leaves shrink, but did not put 2 + 2 together that once I bean providing the spectral balance they need/prefer, they backed off. Where they looked very Indica like, they now look very Sat like.
Thoughts?
weedman420gr
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So,look who's desided to show up 
Working only with 1 panel (22 wats) and one fan on top of it...
Another smaller fan will be added on the other panel if necesserary
Every fan is working extremely quiet at 6V...
Set up also changed ,panels now have changed position from horizontal to vertical (towards the door) to save me some space for the exhaust fan...it needed to be more one the middle section of the grow box ,to suck better the heat from the non-fanned panel and for less noise...
Light Scedule is 22/2...Personally im against 24/0 light cycle.i believe everyone needs a little time to "cool off'', rest...
( except from fans.they ll work their asses off 
)
everything seems to be ok so far...
*oh and for the record, here is the spectrum of each panel(its the same) ;
10WarmWhites 3300K
4CoolWhites 5500-6000K
4PureWhites 6500-7000K
5Reds625nm
1UltraViolet42
nm
Working only with 1 panel (22 wats) and one fan on top of it...
Another smaller fan will be added on the other panel if necesserary
Every fan is working extremely quiet at 6V...
Set up also changed ,panels now have changed position from horizontal to vertical (towards the door) to save me some space for the exhaust fan...it needed to be more one the middle section of the grow box ,to suck better the heat from the non-fanned panel and for less noise...
Light Scedule is 22/2...Personally im against 24/0 light cycle.i believe everyone needs a little time to "cool off'', rest...
( except from fans.they ll work their asses off )everything seems to be ok so far...
*oh and for the record, here is the spectrum of each panel(its the same) ;
10WarmWhites 3300K
4CoolWhites 5500-6000K
4PureWhites 6500-7000K
5Reds625nm
1UltraViolet42
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stardustsailor
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Nice..Told you,that if you underpower a bit the fans,the noise decreases a lot...
locoezon
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Σας ευχαριστώ όλους για αυτούς τους απίστευτους 8 μήνες! 
Καλή δύναμη και υγεία πάνω απ'όλα σε αυτά που έρχονται με το νέο έτος!!
Καλή δύναμη και υγεία πάνω απ'όλα σε αυτά που έρχονται με το νέο έτος!!
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stardustsailor
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3rd day at 12/12 cycle....
jubiare
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budding is quite leafy so far don't you guys think?
Is it my impression or anybody else, all whites tend do grow quite nice but lack the capacity to give consistent weigth when budding?
That is what makes me weary of all white panels? Maybe you want to twist that a bit with some extra reds?
Can I also point out to you SDS, there is something you must know but I'd like to remind you of this?
Most Chinese 660nm reds are very narrow band; A very narrow 660nm is different than a large band 660nm (osram, rebel ...actually rebels used to be amazing with a very large band, now that changed slightly). Narrow band 660nm are suspected by many reputable sources to be causing issues, especially if present in large amounts.
Something to consider I think, in case you'll ever experiment again with 660's.
I am personally very glad you guys are experimenting with whites, and I'll be very happy to be proven wrong and have the tech develop.
But maybe you have been pushing this white revolution a tad bit too early ............... even you is going to some pinky custom diodes don't you?
Also there is something else that makes me a bit weary of you guys; I am a diyer, you are diyers but also getting into business with those panels? Sorry but you have to understand my point .... I am not saying you can't be the honestest of the sellers but
where there is profit one has to be going there with caution.
Is it my impression or anybody else, all whites tend do grow quite nice but lack the capacity to give consistent weigth when budding?
That is what makes me weary of all white panels? Maybe you want to twist that a bit with some extra reds?
Can I also point out to you SDS, there is something you must know but I'd like to remind you of this?
Most Chinese 660nm reds are very narrow band; A very narrow 660nm is different than a large band 660nm (osram, rebel ...actually rebels used to be amazing with a very large band, now that changed slightly). Narrow band 660nm are suspected by many reputable sources to be causing issues, especially if present in large amounts.
Something to consider I think, in case you'll ever experiment again with 660's.
I am personally very glad you guys are experimenting with whites, and I'll be very happy to be proven wrong and have the tech develop.
But maybe you have been pushing this white revolution a tad bit too early ............... even you is going to some pinky custom diodes don't you?
Also there is something else that makes me a bit weary of you guys; I am a diyer, you are diyers but also getting into business with those panels? Sorry but you have to understand my point .... I am not saying you can't be the honestest of the sellers but
where there is profit one has to be going there with caution.
weedman420gr
Active Member
"Its not about money,its about sending a message"
-Joker-
-Joker-
HiloReign
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I think he's just trying to quite the "joker" from the Batman series...
I don't know enough about white LEDs in general, so I dove in and am still waiting for my heat sink. My projects are lax hobbies, but that doesn't mean I don't want to gain knowledge or push current tech. knowledge.
As for leafy buds, I'd like to help confirm whether or not this is true. My 24 diode panel will have 16x warm white, 4x NW, and 2 CW and I'll be running it in a PC case. (all 1w)
Should this test warrant so, I'll invest in high quality white LEDs, tweak the panel as needed and continue to learn.
There is too much shade in the world, too much rest. Light must be shed...
stardustsailor
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Leafy or not .....
Please show me or give me a link ,with a grow that resembles this ...
With a red/blue combo of 135 Watts ,please...
And preferably ,asian cheapos ,onewatters ,unlensed leds used...
Driven ,also, with crappy drivers....
....
I'll be waitin'....
....
Now...
If you dislike those panels,simply do not buy ...
There are plenty of led makers out there...
" Made in USA "...As you ,probably,like them to be ....
(Although that ,they are made in China ,in fact..
Approx. 95% of them....)
Here in Europe....
....
There are plenty of others ,that they are ,even,
willing to be on a waitin' list,for those Astir panels...
( ....I can assure you, for that...
.... )And it's not about the money.....
( At least ,not only for the money....)
I just hate/dislike ,"standalone" red or blue leds ....
Or any other monochromatic led...
I'm pretty sure ,we can do without 'em...
How I should put it ?
We want to be different.....
Now,you'll have to excuse me ..
I've a research to continue...
P.S. : Pink is not red... More like Red+Blue+ a bit of the rest visible wls (=>White )...
And yes ..." Red wls " is a total different thing from " red leds "....
"Red" begins at c. 600nm and goes all the way up to c.720 nm ..
Still to find a red led to cover all the red bandwidth...
....
PetFlora
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While you guys are at it. How hard would it be to make this to power the panels? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdbiNHfLv0
PetFlora
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I am of the opinion that plants will need to acclimate over several generations to the new light provided before we can render a verdict. For first time I'd say the results are awesome, or at the very least very acceptable.