Are nutrients essential?
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TreeFarmerCharlie
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Nutrients are essential, but you don't have to feed bottled nutrients. If you don't want to feed bottled nutrients then you need to get quality soil, like super soil, and you need to grow in pots large enough to where the plants don't deplete the soil before they are done growing. Everything I've read seems to agree that the smallest pot size you want for a grow of that type is 10 gallons. I'm currently growing organically in 10 gallon pots.
rkymtnman
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i hope you are talking about a soil grow.
Yes I'm talking about a soil grow...like if I got some foxfarm soil, would nutrients be necessary
TreeFarmerCharlie
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Do some research on no-till growing...I think that is probably what you are looking for.
rkymtnman
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phew, good! lol.
i'm not a dirt guy but i think FF has nutes in it. but not enough for the entire grow. it it were me, i'd use some organic nutes. i use Age Old stuff on my veggie garden
Gentlemencorpse
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Fox Farms Ocean Forest feeds on its own for 4 to 6 weeks in my experience. Depends on your light, the strain and the environment. But you can replenish your soil just by top dressing with more FFOF. No need for additional nutes unless you want to use them.
rkymtnman
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not to sound like a smart ass, but how much do you have to top dress to make it til harvest? once, twice? and how much like in inches of adding to top of pot?
I actually used a bag of happy frog recently and im not sure if it was a bad bag but plants went to shit quickly, i was almost positive they were not even close to needing nutes and sure enough i had to try something, feed them and bang they bounced right back, with that being said its the first time i ever had trouble that early with happy frog soil
rkymtnman
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you'll know in a day or so what nutes they need or have too much in about a day or so! dirt is for racing.
cannabineer
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I used Happy Frog 8 years ago. Plants went great guns for two months, then “click!” plants developed multiple deficiency. At that point I fed with complete Gen Hydro til finish.
To op: soil contains variable amounts of nutrient and prenutrient which a living soil slowly makes available. Finding or building one that provides neither too much (plants die) or too little (same result) is an art. I shrugged and went to soilless drain-to-waste.
If you have your soil dialed in (not a skill I have) it’s effortless high performance. But like a bicyclist on snow, there isn’t much forgiveness for mistakes.
rkymtnman
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with like a pee wee herman type bicycle? or a fatty mtb?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Those beach bikes with the fat tires are soooo cheating.
PadawanWarrior
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I top dress with a bunch of stuff, but these organic premixed Fox Farm ones are decent if you want something easy.
pulpoinspace
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ive had friends who've grown with ffof full flowering with no nutrients added. plants def got very yellow by harvest time but its doable outside... never seen it done indoors, i dont think it would work as well.
Gentlemencorpse
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Don't sound like a smart ass at all! About 0.5-1 inch a month in flower starting when you flip. Have to leave the final pot with some extra room. That assumes a standard 5 gallon felt pot and about a 4 week veg. Also this was under a 315CMH. I assume under a 1000w HPS this may be less effective! And obviously mileage will vary. Might be tough with a 16 week sativa ya know?
Also, just to be clear, I'm not saying your yield will match what it would have been with a real super soil or say some MegaCrop etc. Just that you can grow good weed start to finish just top dressing.
