Are nutrients essential?

Dontjudgeme

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About to start my first grow...and I was wondering do you have to use nutrients when growing indoors? Or would the plants be ok with light and water?

I see most people use nutrients, but I was just wondering if you can grow a plant with just light and water?
Yes you can. Wild grown cannabis doesn’t have any nutrients, and it grows just fine. But be warned, the addition of nutrition is what fuels the cannabis you see today. Cannabis can grow perfectly fine on its own without us adding all this stuff into it, it just won’t be as potent and big if you didn’t. I’ve tried it just to see. The plant made it to harvest, had some obvious issues, but it didn’t die. Wasn’t as big and didn’t smell as strong. Also didn’t have the best taste either, but it wasn’t bad. So to answer you question, yes it is possible, just don’t expect anything great out of it.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Yes you can. Wild grown cannabis doesn’t have any nutrients, and it grows just fine. But be warned, the addition of nutrition is what fuels the cannabis you see today. Cannabis can grow perfectly fine on its own without us adding all this stuff into it, it just won’t be as potent and big if you didn’t. I’ve tried it just to see. The plant made it to harvest, had some obvious issues, but it didn’t die. Wasn’t as big and didn’t smell as strong. Also didn’t have the best taste either, but it wasn’t bad. So to answer you question, yes it is possible, just don’t expect anything great out of it.
I think you are confusing "salt based nutrients" with "nutrients". The soil cannabis grows in, in the wild, has plenty of nutrients in it.
 

Dontjudgeme

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I think you are confusing "salt based nutrients" with "nutrients". The soil cannabis grows in, in the wild, has plenty of nutrients in it.
I’m not quite sure how the dots are being connected. At no point was I referencing the nutrients we use, in comparison to the nutrients that are naturally available to the plants in the wild. When you get your hands on the stuff that is produced naturally, let me know, I’ll gladly buy it.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Rather than nitpick I'm just going to say that the reason I quoted you originally is because your original reply could easily be taken by a new grower to mean that they can grow in coco with no nutrients. And wild plants don't grow with no nutrients.
 

Dontjudgeme

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I’m not exactly sure how a new grower could have come to that conclusion when I never even mentioned coco. I understand what you are saying, but my message was taken a little out of context.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I’m not exactly sure how a new grower could have come to that conclusion when I never even mentioned coco. I understand what you are saying, but my message was taken a little out of context.
Because new growers seem to treat coco like soil all the time and don't know enough to separate the two. I've seen multiple "HELP ME!!" posts over the last week from new growers who are giving their coco plants in veg plain water, every few days, and then wonder why the plants are dying.
 

Devils34

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Hey guys, I appreciate all the feedback, I wasn't confused by any of the comments, and appreciate you guys sharing knowledge.

That being said, didn't mean to start a fight lol I appreciate and respect both of your knowledge - so let's leave it at that :)
 

Dontjudgeme

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Because new growers seem to treat coco like soil all the time and don't know enough to separate the two. I've seen multiple "HELP ME!!" posts over the last week from new growers who are giving their coco plants in veg plain water, every few days, and then wonder why the plants are dying.
Ok Charlie you win. My hands are behind my back. I’m waving the white flag. I’ve thrown the towel in. Please don’t beat me up anymore.
I got nothing but love and respect for you brotha. I always see you give nothing but solid advice. I walk away with just 1 black eye. I need the other one.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Hey guys, I appreciate all the feedback, I wasn't confused by any of the comments, and appreciate you guys sharing knowledge.

That being said, didn't mean to start a fight lol I appreciate and respect both of your knowledge - so let's leave it at that :)
Nobody is fighting here (:
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Ok Charlie you win. My hands are behind my back. I’m waving the white flag. I’ve thrown the towel in. Please don’t beat me up anymore.
I wasn't trying to win, I was just explaining where I was coming from, and how easily some of these new growers can get confused.
 

Dontjudgeme

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I wasn't trying to win, I was just explaining where I was coming from, and how easily some of these new growers can get confused.
I wasn't trying to win, I was just explaining where I was coming from, and how easily some of these new growers can get confused.
Hey man I get it, no explanation needed. I was just trying to break the ice. I understand and agree with everything you mentioned. I just didn’t feel the need to go that deep into what I said, I already wrote a book as it was.
 

KingQuazy

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Ok Charlie you win. My hands are behind my back. I’m waving the white flag. I’ve thrown the towel in. Please don’t beat me up anymore.
I got nothing but love and respect for you brotha. I always see you give nothing but solid advice. I walk away with just 1 black eye. I need the other one.
What you're looking for is a good organic soil which has "aged forest product", humus, and some peat in it. That combination alone can support a plant for a few months. This is essentially a bag of forest floor. There are no crystal or liquid nutrients added, and it is literally 100% natural. Most growers shy away from it due to the aged forest product being wood chips that deliver Nitrogen for quite a while longer than most other soils. Lots of companies sell a product like this. Even Miracle Gro actually started selling one called Performance Organics.

You said you'll buy it.

Stick to your word. This is what I grow in, and I plan to adapt it into a super soil recipe using 100% natural ingredients so I too can leave the bottles behind. I wish ALL growers would. Cannabis is TREMENDOUSLY superior when grown in organic soil.
 
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