Anyone else watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?

Applesauceisgood said:

Yes, I am an American. I am not familiar with this point. Do you have verified information I can read about the subject? Full disclosure, I do not think much of Mr. Trump in terms of leadership but I try to be fair.

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BodegaBud said:

So Russians blasting memes can alter election results then why can’t the media with an agenda? I don’t look to memes as facts but a lot of people look to the news to provide unbiased journalism. That should be investigated if anything

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BodegaBud said:

I think Obama was showing us what our assholes will look like after he fucks our country up the ass. Obama started all this division by commenting on shooting before the trials even began

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Applesauceisgood said:

Yes, I am an American. I am not familiar with this point. Do you have verified information I can read about the subject? Full disclosure, I do not think much of Mr. Trump in terms of leadership but I try to be fair.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort shared polling data during the 2016 presidential campaign with a business associate accused of having ties to Russian intelligence, and prosecutors say he lied to them about it, according to a court filing .

The allegation marks the first time prosecutors with special counsel Robert Mueller’s office have accused Trump’s chief campaign aide of sharing election-related information with his Russian contacts. Although the filing does not say whether the polling information was public or what was done with it, it raises the possibility that Russia might have used inside information from the campaign as part of its effort to interfere with the election on Trump’s behalf.

The accusation could be important evidence in Mueller’s ongoing probe into potential coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.

The information was accidentally revealed in a defense filing Tuesday and was meant to be redacted. The Associated Press was able to review the material because it wasn’t properly blacked out.

Manafort was among the first Americans charged in Mueller’s investigation and has been among the central characters in the case, having led the campaign during the Republican convention and as, U.S intelligence officials say, Russia was working to sway the election in Trump’s favor. Manafort has pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in Washington and faces sentencing in a separate case in Virginia.

The defense filing was aimed at rebutting allegations that Manafort intentionally lied to Mueller’s team after agreeing to plead guilty last September. Prosecutors say Manafort breached their plea agreement by lying, but defense lawyers argued that any misstatements were simple mistakes made by a man coping with illness, exhaustion and extensive questioning from investigators.

The defense lawyers said Manafort suffers from depression and anxiety, has had little contact with his family and, on days when he met with investigators, was awakened before dawn to have hourslong interviews with little time to prepare for the questioning.

“These circumstances weighed heavily on Mr. Manafort’s state of mind and on his memory as he was questioned at length,” the lawyers wrote.

Tuesday’s filing revealed the first extensive details of what he is accused of having lied about. A spokesman for Manafort’s defense team declined to comment on the incomplete redactions or on Mueller’s allegations, but lawyers later filed a corrected version of the document.

The filing contains new information about Manafort’s connections to Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian-Ukrainian business associate who was indicted last year on charges he tampered with potential witnesses. The U.S. believes he is connected to Russian intelligence, but Kilimnik, who is not in U.S. custody, has denied those ties.

The latest allegations further detail how Manafort’s work on the campaign intersected with his past international work with Kilimnik.

Emails previously reported by the AP and other news outlets show that in July 2016, Manafort told Kilimnik he was willing to provide “private briefings” about the Trump campaign to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian billionaire with ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Manafort dangled the briefings as he was mired in a dispute with Deripaska over a multimillion-dollar deal involving a Ukrainian cable company.

Through his spokesman, Manafort has acknowledged discussing the briefings but said they never occurred.

In addition, the defense document discloses a meeting in Madrid between Manafort and Kilimnik. Prosecutors say Manafort acknowledged the meeting only after being told that they were in the same city on the same day. Manafort spokesman Jason Maloni said Tuesday the Madrid trip mentioned in the filing occurred in January or February 2017— months after Manafort was ousted from the campaign and as Trump was taking office.

Manafort also did not initially disclose having earlier discussed a Ukraine peace plan with Kilimnik on more than one occasion during the campaign, according to the filing. Russia and Ukraine have been locked in a conflict since 2014 over Russia’s annexation of Crimea. The U.S. and European Union have imposed sanctions on Russia over that move as well as the country’s support for separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine.

Manafort’s attorneys don’t specify the details of the peace plan but they write that Manafort told prosecutors in September that “he would have given the Ukrainian peace plan more thought, had the issue not been raised during the period he was engaged with work related to the presidential campaign.

“Issues and communications related to Ukrainian political events simply were not at the time forefront of Mr. Manafort’s mind during the period at issue and it is not surprising at all that Manafort was unable to recall specific details prior to having his recollection refreshed,” they said.

They say the same about his recollection of sharing polling data with Kilimnik related to the campaign.

Prosecutors have also accused Manafort of lying about his contacts with Trump administration officials, which defense lawyers deny.

The filing says that a May 26, 2018, text message exchange with Manafort involved an unidentified “third-party” who was asking permission to name-drop Manafort if the person met with Trump. The request to use Manafort as an introduction to Trump came while Manafort was under indictment in two federal cases.

The defense lawyers say Mueller’s team has indicated they will not pursue additional charges against Manafort. The lawyers say they don’t want a separate hearing before a judge on the lying allegations but will address them instead during the sentencing process.

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BodegaBud said:

He won’t believe you. He thinks all conservatives send money to Trump and have rebel flags in our garages LOL

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BodegaBud said:

I think Obama was showing us what our assholes will look like after he fucks our country up the ass. Obama started all this division by commenting on shooting before the trials even began

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hanimmal said:

God you really have just gone all in on the propaganda at this point.

"Media" is another bullshit troll tactic. It means anything. Crayons are 'media' ffs.

If you want unbiased journalism, stick to AP news. And until it is reported on there it really should be questioned because of the very real attack on our society that has used journalist seeking stories relying on 'well placed' sources like Trump and his minions who have proven that they just flat out lie to us to plant stories in actual news media sources.

Sure 'But Obama'.



https://apnews.com/article/north-america-paul-manafort-ap-top-news-elections-politics-608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cd
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Keep on selling troll.

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hanimmal said:

God you really have just gone all in on the propaganda at this point.

"Media" is another bullshit troll tactic. It means anything. Crayons are 'media' ffs.

If you want unbiased journalism, stick to AP news. And until it is reported on there it really should be questioned because of the very real attack on our society that has used journalist seeking stories relying on 'well placed' sources like Trump and his minions who have proven that they just flat out lie to us to plant stories in actual news media sources.

Sure 'But Obama'.



https://apnews.com/article/north-america-paul-manafort-ap-top-news-elections-politics-608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cd
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Keep on selling troll.

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Applesauceisgood said:

As with Nicholas Sandmann, Mr. Rittenhouse is likely to be paid in full after the inevitable libel lawsuits.

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Applesauceisgood said:

Do you have any trial information? That news article is reporting allegations and accusations and contains no proven facts of the case.

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BodegaBud said:

Every fucking day Trump was in office they attacked everything he did. They refused to address him properly and were witch hunting. It’s was so annoying and petty after watching for 8 years how they kissed Obama’s ass up and down and tried to make his wife look special

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kathrenc44 said:

The white supremacist will hopefully be found guilty, this will send a strong message to all the others.

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hanimmal said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/us-judge-finds-paul-manafort-lied-to-mueller-probe-about-contacts-with-russian-aide/2019/02/13/c5209f7a-2f2c-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html
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Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort lied to prosecutors with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III about matters close to the heart of their investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.

The judge’s finding that Manafort, 69, breached his cooperation deal with prosecutors by lying after his guilty plea could add years to his prison sentence and came after a set of sealed court hearings.

Manafort’s lies, the judge found, included “his interactions and communications with [Konstantin] Kilimnik,” a longtime aide whom the FBI assessed to have ties to Russian intelligence.

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson of the District said Manafort also lied to the special counsel, the FBI and the grand jury about a payment from a company to a law firm — which he previously characterized as a loan repayment — and made false statements that were material to another Justice Department investigation whose focus has not been described in public filings in Manafort’s case.

Read the judge’s order here.



You mean like when he tried to strongarm a vulnerable ally nation into manufacturing dirt on a potential political rival (because he knew he couldn't win without the big lies being spread)?

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BodegaBud said:

How the fuck was he a WS? Isn’t he part Latino?

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Applesauceisgood said:

Surely white supremacy is rampant when it must be manufactured.

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BodegaBud said:

Lmao!!! I told you guys the kid will get into politics!!! This is hilarious. A lot of folks would vote for Rittenhouse if he ran for an office

Matt Gaetz said his office is open to hiring Kyle Rittenhouse as a congressional intern if he's 'interested in helping the country in additional ways'

A 12-member jury is deliberating whether Rittenhouse is guilty of five felony charges including first-degree homicide.

www.yahoo.com

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Applesauceisgood said:

Surely white supremacy is rampant when it must be manufactured.

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doublejj said:

The Matt Gaetz that is under investigation for pedophilia?...
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BodegaBud said:

If that’s true that’s not a good option LOL. But I’m sure there will plenty of others

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Applesauceisgood said:

I do not think much of Mr. Trump in terms of leadership but I try to be fair.

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BodegaBud said:

What did Brandon call it “ The biggest threat to our country” lmao!!! It’s like the lefts boogeyman.

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GOP voter gets light sentence after casting ballot for deceased wife

A white voter in Nevada cast an illegal ballot for his dead wife. He received a vastly lighter sentence than Crystal Mason. This keeps happening.

www.msnbc.com

doublejj said:

Kyle and his mom will be sued in civil court for wrongful death. And also the guy who gave him the gun. He's likely to owe a lot of money for the rest of his life.
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For what? It was Self Defense. Not like their families can claim load of income

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doublejj said:

GOP voter gets light sentence after casting ballot for deceased wife
A white voter in Nevada cast an illegal ballot for his dead wife. He received a vastly lighter sentence than Crystal Mason. This keeps happening

Republicans and conservative conspiracy theorists were certain they'd found the definitive proof they'd been waiting for. Rosemarie Hartle passed away in 2017, but someone nevertheless tried to cast a ballot on her behalf in the 2020 elections. Her husband, Donald Kirk Hartle, called this "sickening," and suggested it bolstered GOP attacks on the integrity of the electoral system.

Yesterday, the story collapsed: It was Donald Kirk Hartle who illegally voted for his late wife, lied about it, got caught, and ultimately pleaded guilty. As The Nevada Independent reported, the Republican voter accepted responsibility, expressed regret, and received a fairly light sentence.

GOP voter gets light sentence after casting ballot for deceased wife

A white voter in Nevada cast an illegal ballot for his dead wife. He received a vastly lighter sentence than Crystal Mason. This keeps happening.

www.msnbc.com

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