Ants drinking plant Juice , what to do ?

baxbax

Active Member
Hi , Ants , scratch it fresh stems , and drink it's thick juice , an army of ants moving around my pots , and stems are every where scratched , and few ants drinking a thick pine like juice ,

I have an Idea seal pot with plastic bag to its main stem and seal it well , then spray it with Thiamethoxam which kill every insect , but avoid spray from leaching to soil as half life of it in soil is +200 , but it's half life in plant juice should be 28 days , and I have 100 remaining days before harvest .

what do yo think ?
 

baxbax

Active Member
Ants don't drink plant juice, but they do farm Aphids which will suck your plants dry. Get rid of them ASAP.
I can surly say they are now drinking my plants sap that are dripping from scratched stems , I'm seeing it with my naked eyes , it's clear thick sap and smell piney , it's like they are drinking my plants blood
 

baxbax

Active Member
I want to spray with thiamethoxam and only spray leaves and avoid it from leaching to soil , which it will stay long time in soil ,

and hope it degrade by sun and plant metabolites in 100 days remaining . it's recommended Pre harvest interval days is 28 days ,

and 14 days for tobacco ,
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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spray all around your plants, you don't have to actually spray the plants unless they seem to be living in the soil in the pots. if you move your plants and spray a good household insecticide on the floor, then replace them, you've broken their path back and forth.
if they're living in your pots, you need to get rid of them. i'd suggest hydrogen peroxide with your water a few times.
if all you can get is the 13% stuff from the drugstore, use 15ml per gallon each watering for a week or two. it'll kill any beneficial microbes you might be using, but it'll kill the ants and aphids, and their eggs
 

baxbax

Active Member
spray all around your plants, you don't have to actually spray the plants unless they seem to be living in the soil in the pots. if you move your plants and spray a good household insecticide on the floor, then replace them, you've broken their path back and forth.
if they're living in your pots, you need to get rid of them. i'd suggest hydrogen peroxide with your water a few times.
if all you can get is the 13% stuff from the drugstore, use 15ml per gallon each watering for a week or two. it'll kill any beneficial microbes you might be using, but it'll kill the ants and aphids, and their eggs
it's outdoor and dont know from where they come , wtf my plant is not peace of sugar , I spray every day with mint oil and insecticidal soap , but nothing changes ,thrips,aphids,ants,leaf miners,fungus gnates, I have all these , I remove them by hand as possible , but they appear next day , my plant is nearly dying and in few days and I should throw it to garbage gurilla glue ,

Is this safe to use hydrogen proxide when my food regime is organic ? mainly my nitrogen source is organic and is pure urea
 

charface

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Im going to need to see pics of these plants, aphid damage, split stems asap
Or
Trolling...

Sorry man I have never heard of anyone having as manu unusual situations as you have.

If your plants are real, and outdoor and dying its probably because you are spraying them daily
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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as i said about h2o2, it will kill your beneficial microbes, but otherwise, makes no difference what nutes you use. if you use benes, you can replace them easily enough when you get rid of the ants
 

Indacouch

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convinced you are so clever , how you found this ?
If your in pots you can spray around them and not touch your plants at all. If they are living in your soil then you can water some DE into it. I just use a spray I get in the Home Depot garden section. I spray the perimeter of my green house as well as around my pots. I've never found a better product to deter ants. Again it's not for spraying on the plants. I suggest you look into a product such as AZAMAX or Captain Jacks dead bug for that. I rotate between those and cold pressed Neem concentrate. I do not spray anything during flower. Prevention during veg is well worth the effort.


BTW- Roger is a wealth of information and can grow just as good as anyone here. Charface is the same way. I suggest you pay close attention to their suggestions.

GL
 

Indacouch

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sprinkle some cinnamon... It fucks with their senses and they won't go where there is any..
That's exactly what I use to do for my outdoor. I'd sprinkle the whole area around my plants as well as the top of the soil after watering. If I do have any problems in the green house during flower I've got cinnamon at the ready.
 

baxbax

Active Member
I actually like bax
I think he's funny as shit
But If he can produce these half dead plants as described I will gladly apologize.
i'm going to find these dripping sap and the ants drinking it tomorrow , today I sprayed with more concentrated insecticidal soap ,
 
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