Another Ron Paul Thread

mame

mame

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I turned on the TV last night to Anderson Cooper, who moderated the most recent GOP debate, blasting the Ron Paul campaign for lying to raise money.

The Ron Paul campaign made a claim that RP wasn't allowed to talk for 40 minutes strait, and used that "fact" to rally the base against the "mainstream media" in a fundraising letter to supporters. Anderson Cooper laid it all out on his show, highlighting every time Ron Paul spoke -for a total of 11 times (the least was Rick Santorum at 9, the most was Romney and Perry but Bachmann and Gingrich spoke 11 times as well so that's fair) - and the longest he went without speaking was ~19 minutes. They even counted how long he spent talking each time, which again was middle of the pack (he actually spent more TIME speaking than Cain who spoke 15 times but for only 9 minutes). Anderson Cooper then went on to note that Ron Paul has been on his show AC360 7 times this year - more than any other candidate.

Surely Romney and Perry monopolized the event to an extent, but most of that was because other candidates kept on mentioning them which by rules allowed them to respond.

So is RP just a big fat whiner? I think so, at least in this case.
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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yea just like how fox highlighted Romney & Perry fighting and being little babies... when RP actually won the debate not a word about that
 
mame

mame

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RyanTheRhino said:
yea just like how fox highlighted Romney & Perry fighting and being little babies... when RP actually won the debate not a word about that
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Because he didn't win the debate? IMO no one won that debate, Romney came out ahead of the rest of the Republicans, but that "debate" did nothing but hurt the Republicans for the general election.
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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We just need a thread that says "RON PAUL" and be done with it, you all are flooding this section with every bit of information that comes out of his campaign that truly does not deserve its own thread.
 
mame

mame

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Johnny Retro said:
We just need a thread that says "RON PAUL" and be done with it, you all are flooding this section with every bit of information that comes out of his campaign that truly does not deserve its own thread.
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i agree, no more Ron Paul threads guys.
 
deprave

deprave

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EFF anderson cooper! trying to undermine the coverup, the letter was wrong or they included commercial time..so what?

The fact that anderson's teleprompter went out of its way to pick this out to try to act like hes exposing some big marketing scam...The Ron Paul coverup is real and its not a marketing scam, just because some marketer couldn't get his facts straight doesn't blow this stories cover. You can't hide the facts. (this 40 minute figure not being one of the facts obviously)..

You can wade through the 500 page Ron Paul thread if you like and see how I exposed the coverup for 4 or 5 months straight...Or try watching the mainstream media yourself if you can stomach it and see how they blatantly have a blackout on him.

When they do bring him on its to smear him and for like 2 to 3 minutes at a time, when he wins the polls then they don't talk about him winning or they say the polls not important, they added 'Boo-ing' sounds to a video of his CPAC acceptance speech for godsakes. There is just too much for me to fit on 100 pages...its glaringly obvious...


Cooper is a ****ing liar. We've already witnessed his bias in the 2008 debate where he cut off Ron Paul, told him he would let him finish his statement in 2 minutes, then never let him finish his statement.




Source: http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/cr?src=prc-headline



Here is some evidence I collected from just a few months:


<b><b>Ron Paul excluded from Fox News "12 in 2012" series of GOP presidential candidates (Week of 11/15/2010):
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpos...64&postcount=1
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/...ns-president/#

Quinnipiac national poll includes 8 GOP candidates for 2012; excludes Ron Paul (11/22/2010):
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1538

Ron Paul called "nut" and "Martian" on CNN's John King show regarding Wikileaks comments (12/3/2010):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_Q8WFB9Bw

New York Times and CBS News state that Ron Paul got "less than 2%" in the 2008 primary - actual number was 5.6% (12/13/2010):
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/us...ewanted=2&_r=2
http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/12...ident-in-2012/

PPP: Ron Paul leads the "second-tier candidates" despite being just 2% behind "first-tier" candidate Gingrich (12/13/2010):
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot....n-numbers.html

New York Times previews CPAC; fails to mention Ron Paul, Rand Paul (2/8/2011):
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-at-2012-cpac/

Fox News commissions poll for 2012 primary; includes 14 candidates, but not Ron Paul (2/9/2011)
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...ection_web.pdf

CBS News defines Paul's foreign policy as "isolationism" (2/11/2011)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...02-503544.html

Politico gives Ron Paul's CPAC speech a "C" - lowest grade of any potential candidate (2/11/2011):
http://www.politico.com/2012-electio...port_card.html

Carrie Dann of MSNBC: Paul "almost certainly lacks campaign organization", before campaign has even started (2/11/2011):
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ac-straw-poll-

Joe Klein of Time Magazine called Paul 'isolationist', slams his 'opt-out' offer (2/12/2011):
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011...ther-red-meat/

Washington Post considers Ron Paul a CPAC loser, despite straw poll victory (2/13/2011):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021301463.html

CNN: Romney's win "vaulted" his campaign into top tier in 2008; Ron Paul's win "dilutes" the significance of CPAC (2/14/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC5gKOtZ1fA

Rush Limbaugh claims that Ron Paul "bused his people in," and "will not be the Republican nominee" (2/14/2011):
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102140016

Kevin McCullough of Fox News: "Disrespectful Libertarians Hijack CPAC poll -- And Its Mission" (2/14/2011):
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...-poll-mission/

Fox News plays unfavorable 2010 CPAC Straw Poll Reaction, Asks Congressman 'Who Was Booing You?' (2/14/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwo0Iyrh1Zk

TIME: Calls Paul 'too extreme', 'isolationist', and warns that he 'can expect criticism' for 'disparaging comments about African Americans and gays' (2/16/2011):
http://www.time.com/time/specials/pa...048851,00.html

Politico: Congressmen "absent" from 2012 rance - mentions Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, but not Ron Paul (2/23/2011):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/50023.html

Washington Times (the "conservative" DC paper) online: "Earth to Paulbots: You Are Irrelevant" (2/25/2011):
http://communities.washingtontimes.c...re-irrelevant/

AP Story on 2012 mentions 9 potential candidates, but not Ron Paul (3/8/2011):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110308/...id_first_steps

Washington Post excludes Ron Paul from GOP primary poll; 8 candidates included (3/16/2011):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...a_graphic.html

Politico article on Tea Party's 2012 role fails to mention Ron Paul (4/6/2011):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52629.html

9 candidates included, Ron Paul excluded from WSJ/NBC national poll (4/6/2011):
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/0...rump-surprise/

National Journal's "Meet the GOP's Potential Candidates" highlights 10 candidates, not Ron Paul (4/21/2011):
http://www.nationaljournal.com/pictu...dates-20110421

Politico summarizes NH poll that includes Ron Paul without mentioning him (4/22/2011):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53570.html
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM19...fthestate.html

Capitol Hill Blue: "Ron Paul prepares another long-shot run for the White House" - extremely biased (4/26/2011):
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40580

Rush Limbaugh looking for "Bold GOP Leader" to run in 2012; names 5 potential candidates, omits the Pauls (4/26/2011):
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html

David Horowitz falsely claims "Ron Paul would open America's doors to Sharia" (4/29/2011):
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/04/29/1-69/

New York Times: "Republicans Pursuing a Wider Field" - names 12 candidates, not Ron Paul (5/1/2011):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone: Ron Paul's constitutionalist rhetoric a "convenient mask for racial-resentment politics (5/3/2011):
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-paul-20110502

LA Times on South Carolina debate: Pawlenty the "only top tier candidate expected to appear" despite Paul polling higher (5/3/2011):
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may...ebate-20110503

Fox News previews their own debate: Mentions every participating candidate except Ron Paul (5/4/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFMSL2wuAys

New York Times spins Paul's heroin response, saying Paul "brought up the issue" (5/5/2011):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/us...s.html?_r=2&hp

Chris Malagisi (CPAC Chair) of Washington Examiner: "Ron Paul wins the Democrat Presidential Debate" (5/6/2011):
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...debate-oh-wait

Byron York of Washington Examiner reviews South Carolina debate without mentioning Ron Paul (5/6/2011):
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politi...antorum-scores

CNN's Howard Kurtz calls Ron Paul a "sideshow" (5/8/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdtX3MAgpzw

WMUR TV9 in New Hampshire, hosts of the CNN GOP debate, leave Ron Paul off list of linked candidates (5/8/2011):
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ong-candidates
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6245284_n.jpg

AP runs down those who have entered the GOP race, excludes Ron Paul (5/9/2011):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110510/...s_gingrich2012

Michael Gerson of Washington Post: "Ron Paul's Land of Second Rate Values (5/9/2011):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...2bG_story.html

Brent Budowsky of The Hill: "Ron Paul's godless goddess of greed, Ayn Rand" (hit piece) (5/10/2011):
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...greed-ayn-rand

NBC Nightly News piece on the 2012 GOP race takes clips out of context and other shenanigans (5/11/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jmPwIRjX90

Don Imus: Ron Paul is "a loser" who is not worthy to appear on Fox News Sunday (5/12/2011):
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/46909...ox-news-sunday

Media Research Center reviews questions asked to Paul on his "Good Morning America" appearance (5/13/2011):
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2011/20...medium=twitter

LA Times blog: "Who cares that he's seeking the Republican nomination?" (5/13/2011):
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla...54324a37b5970c

George Stephanopoulos repeatedly spins the truth on Ron Paul in his blog (5/13/2011):
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011...n-paul.html#tp
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...view-blog-spin
David Horowitz falsely claims "Ron Paul would open America's doors to Sharia" (4/29/2011):
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/04/29/1-69/

New York Times: "Republicans Pursuing a Wider Field" - names 12 candidates, not Ron Paul (5/1/2011):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone: Ron Paul's constitutionalist rhetoric a "convenient mask for racial-resentment politics (5/3/2011):
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-paul-20110502

LA Times on South Carolina debate: Pawlenty the "only top tier candidate expected to appear" despite Paul polling higher (5/3/2011):
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may...ebate-20110503

Fox News previews their own debate: Mentions every participating candidate except Ron Paul (5/4/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFMSL2wuAys

New York Times spins Paul's heroin response, saying Paul "brought up the issue" (5/5/2011):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/us...s.html?_r=2&hp

Chris Malagisi (CPAC Chair) of Washington Examiner: "Ron Paul wins the Democrat Presidential Debate" (5/6/2011):
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...debate-oh-wait

Byron York of Washington Examiner reviews South Carolina debate without mentioning Ron Paul (5/6/2011):
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politi...antorum-scores

CNN's Howard Kurtz calls Ron Paul a "sideshow" (5/8/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdtX3MAgpzw

WMUR TV9 in New Hampshire, hosts of the CNN GOP debate, leave Ron Paul off list of linked candidates (5/8/2011):
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ong-candidates
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6245284_n.jpg

AP runs down those who have entered the GOP race, excludes Ron Paul (5/9/2011):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110510/...s_gingrich2012

Michael Gerson of Washington Post: "Ron Paul's Land of Second Rate Values (5/9/2011):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...2bG_story.html

Brent Budowsky of The Hill: "Ron Paul's godless goddess of greed, Ayn Rand" (hit piece) (5/10/2011):
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...greed-ayn-rand

NBC Nightly News piece on the 2012 GOP race takes clips out of context and other shenanigans (5/11/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jmPwIRjX90

Don Imus: Ron Paul is "a loser" who is not worthy to appear on Fox News Sunday (5/12/2011):
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/46909...ox-news-sunday

Media Research Center reviews questions asked to Paul on his "Good Morning America" appearance (5/13/2011):
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2011/20...medium=twitter

LA Times blog: "Who cares that he's seeking the Republican nomination?" (5/13/2011):
http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla...54324a37b5970c

George Stephanopoulos repeatedly spins the truth on Ron Paul in his blog (5/13/2011):
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011...n-paul.html#tp
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...view-blog-spin​
Rush Limbaugh looking for "Bold GOP Leader" to run in 2012; names 5 potential candidates, omits the Pauls (4/26/2011):
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html

Capitol Hill Blue: "Ron Paul prepares another long-shot run for the White House" - extremely biased (4/26/2011):
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40580
National Journal's "Meet the GOP's Potential Candidates" highlights 10 candidates, not Ron Paul (4/21/2011):
http://www.nationaljournal.com/pictu...dates-20110421

Politico summarizes NH poll that includes Ron Paul without mentioning him (4/22/2011):
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53570.html
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM19...fthestate.html​
Fox News plays unfavorable 2010 CPAC Straw Poll Reaction, Asks Congressman 'Who Was Booing You?' (2/14/2011):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwo0Iyrh1Zk

Charles Krauthammer gives his spin on Ron Paul with Bill O'reilly Feb. 15 2011..

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreill...ylist_id=86923
​
New York Times previews CPAC; fails to mention Ron Paul, Rand Paul (2/8/2011):
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-at-2012-cpac/

Fox News commissions poll for 2012 primary; includes 14 candidates, but not Ron Paul (2/9/2011)
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...ection_web.pdf

CBS News defines Paul's foreign policy as "isolationism" (2/11/2011)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...02-503544.html

Politico gives Ron Paul's CPAC speech a "C" - lowest grade of any potential candidate (2/11/2011):
http://www.politico.com/2012-electio...port_card.html

Carrie Dann of MSNBC: Paul "almost certainly lacks campaign organization", before campaign has even started (2/11/2011):
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ac-straw-poll-

Joe Klein of Time Magazine called Paul 'isolationist', slams his 'opt-out' offer (2/12/2011):
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011...ther-red-meat/

Washington Post considers Ron Paul a CPAC loser, despite straw poll victory (2/13/2011):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021301463.html​
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sync0s

sync0s

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mame said:
Because he didn't win the debate? IMO no one won that debate, Romney came out ahead of the rest of the Republicans, but that "debate" did nothing but hurt the Republicans for the general election.
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First, how did Romney come out ahead when he continuously lied? When Rick Perry called him out he said "I have never hired illegals" than he refuted himself a moment later by saying "I didn't know there were illegals working for the company"

Newly obtained White House records provide fresh details on how senior Obama administration officials used Mitt Romney’s landmark health-care law in Massachusetts as a model for the new federal law, including recruiting some of Romney’s own health care advisers and experts to help craft the act now derided by Republicans as “Obamacare.”
The records, gleaned from White House visitor logs reviewed by NBC News, show that senior White House officials had a dozen meetings in 2009 with three health-care advisers and experts who helped shape the health care reform law signed by Romney in 2006, when the Republican presidential candidate was governor of Massachusetts. One of those meetings, on July 20, 2009, was in the Oval Office and presided over by President Barack Obama, the records show.
“The White House wanted to lean a lot on what we’d done in Massachusetts,” said Jon Gruber, an MIT economist who advised the Romney administration on health care and who attended five meetings at the Obama White House in 2009, including the meeting with the president. “They really wanted to know how we can take that same approach we used in Massachusetts and turn that into a national model.”​
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Secondly, I agree. I got that email as well and watched the debate afterward and it seemed to me that was the most fair debate toward Ron
Paul so far this year. I still donated, however.
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deprave

deprave

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Well , This was the first debate Ron Paul ever got good time in...but maybe the letter meant to say that he only spoke one minute in the first 40 minutes because that would be true.
 
sync0s

sync0s

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Just for the relevance of the topic, I'll quote the email in question

At one point in the first hour of last night's CNN Republican debate, blacking out almost took on a whole new meaning.

You see, it can be awfully hard to be on stage for nearly 40 minutes between speaking. Yes, 40 minutes.

That's how long the mainstream media tried to keep my views out of the debate at one point.

Closing statements? Well, some of the candidates got them.

I will give you one guess who didn't.

No matter. Let's make TODAY our closing statement.

It is time to tell them: Black THIS Out!

If you were watching last night, two things should have stood out to you. First, as noted above, the media continues their old tricks of propping up their preferred candidates with more airtime while ignoring those who challenge the status quo.

Second, there was only one candidate on the stage last night who:
** Threatens their status quo by telling the American people the truth about the fiscal mess and moral decay our current policies have created;
** Understands the full problem, including the role of the Federal Reserve and the role of our foolhardy foreign policy;
** Has offered a concrete plan to balance the budget and to cut ONE TRILLION dollars in the first year of his Presidency.
Today, I obviously need your help to get this message out.

There is no way we can count on the friendly treatment from the media that so many of the other front-running candidates have received.

So today, I am asking you to dig deep. I am asking you to sacrifice. I am asking you to help me tell the establishment they can Black THIS Out!

As part of the rollout for my Plan to Restore America, I have two new TV ads I will run beginning this weekend.

I have mailers ready to go to early state voters. I have the best grassroots team in politics.

What I must have now is your support.

As a matter of fact, we've already raised over $650,000 in the first few hours of today's Money Bomb!

So I hope you'll join in if you haven't already by donating whatever you are able by clicking here.

The results of our efforts to go around the media so far have been incredible.

Voters all across the nation are giving our campaign one straw poll victory after another - including at such influential events as the recent Values Voter Summit.

And we continue to have more support from active duty servicemen and women than all my opponents COMBINED.

The reason we're doing so well despite the media blackout is simple.

When the American people hear the full, accurate story about my unmatched record in support of liberty, it becomes clear that I am the true constitutional conservative in this race, and my support grows.

Despite all of our success, however, there is much more ground to be gained.

That's why I hope you'll participate in today's Black THIS Out Money Bomb.

The media can pretend I don't exist, distort my positions, and make their bias abundantly clear on television.

But they can't take away our passion, our enthusiasm, and our dedication.

Today's Money Bomb is about making your voice heard.

It's about proudly stating that no force on earth can stop your fight to be free.

And it's about ensuring that I can tear through the media blackout and take our message directly to the American people.

This campaign doesn't get the big checks from the well-entrenched special interests.

I'm depending entirely on grassroots American Patriots like you to help me win the White House and make the fundamental changes necessary to get this country back on track.

Please, stand with me today by contributing as generously as you can to the Black THIS Out Money Bomb.

Thank you for your support.


For Liberty,

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Ron Paul

P.S. The Black THIS Out Money Bomb is taking place right now, and I hope you'll contribute as generously as you can toward our efforts to get the truth out to the American people.

The establishment is throwing everything it has at me, and today we can prove that none of their tricks will stop us from advancing this campaign and winning this race.

So I hope you'll join thousands of other grassroots Americans today in standing up for our message of freedom.
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sync0s

sync0s

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fdd2blk said:
more, more, more, .... :hump:

because the first time wasn't good enough? :?
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It's not like their holding a gun to your head. You willingly give them your information, what do you expect them to do with it? It's a grass roots campaign and those need money to succeed. You don't hear RP supporters whining about it.
 
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