America Is a Failed State

Fogdog

Fogdog

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Mr. So low dough low said:
Did I say that? Show me a quote.
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You are a Conservative asshat shill. I don't need to see the skunk to know one just walked by.

The propaganda dodge that Republicans are like Democrats is a right wing propaganda tactic to suppress the votes of Democrats. You couildn't be more obvious if you were wearing in a MAGA cap.

I'll concede there is an alternative explanation. That is you've completely bought in to the right wing propaganda like @schuylaar and other Bernie babies have.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Mr. So low dough low said:
@Fogdog still waiting on those quotes where I said $15 min wage would hurt the economy.... Or do you just make shit up? Yes that's what I thought...
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Fogdog said:
You are a Conservative asshat shill. I don't need to see the skunk to know one just walked by.

The propaganda dodge that Republicans are like Democrats is a right wing propaganda tactic to suppress the votes of Democrats. You couildn't be more obvious if you were wearing in a MAGA cap.

I'll concede there is an alternative explanation. That is you've completely bought in to the right wing propaganda like @schuylaar and other Bernie babies have.
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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Bugeye said:
How could our founding fathers not see the clear risk to our representative democracy from Russian bought Facebook ads?
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and laundered russian money

and russian espionage

and emails stolen by russians

and armies of bots dispatched by russians

you seem kind of dumb and desperate. your white supremacist puppet is illegitimate and you know it
 
travisw

travisw

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Mr. So low dough low said:
Powerful remarks, and no doubt heartfelt. But a study of global mass-shooting incidents from 2009 to 2015 by the Crime Prevention Research Center, headed by economist John Lott, shows the U.S. doesn't lead the world in mass shootings. In fact, it doesn't even make the top 10, when measured by death rate per million population from mass public shootings.

So who's tops? Surprisingly, Norway is, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million (high no doubt because of the rifle assault by political extremist Anders Brevik that claimed 77 lives in 2011). No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

That's not all. There were also 27% more casualties from 2009 to 2015 per mass shooting incident in the European Union than in the U.S.

"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."

"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."
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Unfortunately your study and John are both full of shit.

The Crime Prevention Research Center is a nonprofit founded in 2013 by John Lott, author of the book “More Guns, Less Crime.” He is best known as an advocate in the gun rights debate, particularly his arguments against restrictions on owning and carrying guns. Lott’s work has been called “junk science” as he has been accused of accepting funding from the National Rifle Association.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/crime-prevention-research-center/

If you look into John, you'll find



Before Lott’s flurry of activity, it was difficult to find anybody arguing that widespread gun ownership made societies safer — even the NRA was reticent to make such a bold claim, defending gun ownership with reference to the constitution, not criminology.

A little over a decade ago, he was disgraced and his career was in tatters. Not only was Lott’s assertion that more guns leads to more safety formally repudiated by a National Research Council panel, but he had also been caught pushing studies with severe statistical errors on numerous occasions. An investigation uncovered that he had almost certainly fabricated an entire survey on defensive gun use. And a blogger revealed that Mary Rosh, an online commentator claiming to be a former student of Lott’s who would frequently post about how amazing he was, was in fact John Lott himself. He was all but excommunicated from academia.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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kindnug said:
There are white + black Jews, but that still doesn't prove his point...
Did Nazi's only kill Ethiopian/Black Jews? Or anyone that didn't have their beliefs?:roll:
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i didn't read the whole thread, guess i missed that point. no, they got rid of jews, gypsies, homosexuals, mentally disabled people, priests.....i'm sure they would have included black people if there were many around, just don't think there were at the time
 
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