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Would you consider buying a VERO after reading through some of the posts?

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bobbuck

bobbuck

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Nice. I have a very similar fixture that I'm using for the three Vero 18's! I've gOtta test the drivers out in it, when I took it apart last night there were three unlabeled drivers in it. It's labeled 120w abd there are 112 diodes. Curious what they are
 
kmog33

kmog33

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bobbuck said:
Nice. I have a very similar fixture that I'm using for the three Vero 18's! I've gOtta test the drivers out in it, when I took it apart last night there were three unlabeled drivers in it. It's labeled 120w abd there are 112 diodes. Curious what they are
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mine was a "300" watt panel. It had a 90 and 45 watt driver on the inside. The 90 ran 3 3070s at I think 25-28 watts a piece.


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kmog33

kmog33

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bobbuck said:
Nice. I have a very similar fixture that I'm using for the three Vero 18's! I've gOtta test the drivers out in it, when I took it apart last night there were three unlabeled drivers in it. It's labeled 120w abd there are 112 diodes. Curious what they are
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mine was a "300" watt panel. It had a 90 and 45 watt driver on the inside. The 90 ran 3 3070s at I think 25-28 watts a piece.


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Kevin the Great

Kevin the Great

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bobbuck said:
Ok. So I took apart one of my China led lights and I have three drivers rated 70-90vdc 500-560ma. I'm thinking of building a seedling/ micro green light out of some Vero 10s or Vero 13s using these drivers. This will be my first attempt at diy cob. Any one have any ideas? Also am I correct in thinking I could almost run 3 Vero 18s off each driver? Still trying to Figure out this diy cob stuff before attempting to order parts and build a flowering light. Thanks
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I have almost the same light, my drivers say 60-90vdc and 500ma. At 500ma, the vero 18 has a forward voltage of around 28 volts. 3 for each driver is perfect. After reading so much on these forums, I'm not even using the case anymore. Just the 3 drivers for 9 vero 18s, each around 2,000 lumens. Thats around 41% efficiency. I'll be adding 4 more vero 18s at 350ma later, each around 1500 lumens. 171 watts and 24,000 lumens. 43-44% efficient after the additional 4 at 350.
I split mine up onto a separate heatsink for more even light coverage.
It works decent for the price and its a good outlet for using the drivers that you already have.
 
bobbuck

bobbuck

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Kevin the Great said:
I have almost the same light, my drivers say 60-90vdc and 500ma. At 500ma, the vero 18 has a forward voltage of around 28 volts. 3 for each driver is perfect. After reading so much on these forums, I'm not even using the case anymore. Just the 3 drivers for 9 vero 18s, each around 2,000 lumens. Thats around 41% efficiency. I'll be adding 4 more vero 18s at 350ma later, each around 1500 lumens. 171 watts and 24,000 lumens. 43-44% efficient after the additional 4 at 350.
I split mine up onto a separate heatsink for more even light coverage.
It works decent for the price and its a good outlet for using the drivers that you already have.
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What kinda spacing do you have between the chips and and also between heatsinks? also what kind of coverage are you getting from the whole assembly? Thanks
 
Kevin the Great

Kevin the Great

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bobbuck said:
What kinda spacing do you have between the chips and and also between heatsinks? also what kind of coverage are you getting from the whole assembly? Thanks
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I know it's a heatsink from heatsinkusa.com, their cheapest profile as far as surface area per dollar. 4.8 width maybe? I put 4 on each end and 1 in the middle to avoid a hotspot in the middle. I built it around the idea of adding 4 more at 300ma on the outsides for side lighting but haven't compiled the parts for it yet.
An interesting side note is that the 3 vero 18s at 500ma put out roughly 6,000 lumens and consume 45 watts. 4 vero 18s at 300ma produce about 6,000 lumens and consumes only 36 watts.
I have mine in a 17x22 space. A little over 6,900 lumens per square foot. The added 4 at 300ma will push the envelope up to over 9200.
 
bobbuck

bobbuck

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Kevin the Great said:
I know it's a heatsink from heatsinkusa.com, their cheapest profile as far as surface area per dollar. 4.8 width maybe? I put 4 on each end and 1 in the middle to avoid a hotspot in the middle. I built it around the idea of adding 4 more at 300ma on the outsides for side lighting but haven't compiled the parts for it yet.
An interesting side note is that the 3 vero 18s at 500ma put out roughly 6,000 lumens and consume 45 watts. 4 vero 18s at 300ma produce about 6,000 lumens and consumes only 36 watts.
I have mine in a 17x22 space. A little over 6,900 lumens per square foot. The added 4 at 300ma will push the envelope up to over 9200.
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The weekend is upon us! I'd be interested to see the layout. My cab will be around 18" x 30" I like to keep my ladies short and LST. Is your unit active or passively cooled? thanks
 
kmog33

kmog33

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Kevin the Great said:
I have almost the same light, my drivers say 60-90vdc and 500ma. At 500ma, the vero 18 has a forward voltage of around 28 volts. 3 for each driver is perfect. After reading so much on these forums, I'm not even using the case anymore. Just the 3 drivers for 9 vero 18s, each around 2,000 lumens. Thats around 41% efficiency. I'll be adding 4 more vero 18s at 350ma later, each around 1500 lumens. 171 watts and 24,000 lumens. 43-44% efficient after the additional 4 at 350.
I split mine up onto a separate heatsink for more even light coverage.
It works decent for the price and its a good outlet for using the drivers that you already have.
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I think the efficiency is higher at 500ma than that.


156l/w at 500ma with the 4000k 80cri. I think closer to 48%


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bobbuck

bobbuck

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Lumens being total lumens? Ler being lumens per watt? Watts being VxA?
Sorry trying to figure things out on my short 5 min breaks
never mind had some time at lunch. Think I got it
 
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Kevin the Great

Kevin the Great

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bobbuck said:
The weekend is upon us! I'd be interested to see the layout. My cab will be around 18" x 30" I like to keep my ladies short and LST. Is your unit active or passively cooled? thanks
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20160312_000727.jpg20160312_000824.jpg 20160312_000916.jpg I used active cooling for the main light bar and I suppose the T bars might be considered semi passive or something since they touch the actively cooled one. Maybe they're just considered passive. Either way, the outside 4 lights on the thinner bars are run at 300ma. I used 15 inch heatsinks from heatsinkusa, their cheapest profile. The actively cooled one is their 4.8 inch profile. Mine is 22 long and is in a 22 1/8 wide cabinet. I should probably have a bit more wiggle room for the air to dump out of the ends. It wasn't very warm before though and the 300ma vero 18s won't add much more heat to it.
In an 18 x 30 cabinet (3.75 square feet) the lighting power of your drivers is going to be spread a bit thin for flowering but would make a good veg light.
I found some cheap 300ma 50-120vdc drivers on aliexpress.com that will drive 4 vero 18s and works great for side lighting. 2 of those and 8 more LEDs and you'd be well flowering intensity.
 
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AquariusPanta

AquariusPanta

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Kevin the Great said:
View attachment 3629523View attachment 3629527 View attachment 3629525 I used active cooling for the main light bar and I suppose the T bars might be considered semi passive or something since they touch the actively cooled one. Maybe they're just considered passive. Either way, the outside 4 lights on the thinner bars are run at 300ma. I used 15 inch heatsinks from heatsinkusa, their cheapest profile. The actively cooled one is their 4.8 inch profile. Mine is 22 long and is in a 22 1/8 wide cabinet. I should probably have a bit more wiggle room for the air to dump out of the ends. It wasn't very warm before though and the 300ma vero 18s won't add much more heat to it.
In an 18 x 30 cabinet (3.75 square feet) the lighting power of your drivers is going to be spread a bit thin for flowering but would make a good veg light.
I found some cheap 300ma 50-120vdc drivers on aliexpress.com that will drive 4 vero 18s and works great for side lighting. 2 of those and 8 more LEDs and you'd be well flowering intensity.
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BuddyColas

BuddyColas

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Kevin the Great said:
Does anyone know the efficiency of an 18 at 300ma? I have to guess as the lowest graph I've seen goes to 500ma.
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In my opinion, it would just be ink on paper anyway because Vero so understates the performance of their cobs. I know you are asking about the Vero 18, but the Vero 29 only under performs the vaunted CXB3590 by just 7%...and that from several forum members that have tested them side by side.
 
bobbuck

bobbuck

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Kevin the Great said:
View attachment 3629523View attachment 3629527 View attachment 3629525 I used active cooling for the main light bar and I suppose the T bars might be considered semi passive or something since they touch the actively cooled one. Maybe they're just considered passive. Either way, the outside 4 lights on the thinner bars are run at 300ma. I used 15 inch heatsinks from heatsinkusa, their cheapest profile. The actively cooled one is their 4.8 inch profile. Mine is 22 long and is in a 22 1/8 wide cabinet. I should probably have a bit more wiggle room for the air to dump out of the ends. It wasn't very warm before though and the 300ma vero 18s won't add much more heat to it.
In an 18 x 30 cabinet (3.75 square feet) the lighting power of your drivers is going to be spread a bit thin for flowering but would make a good veg light.
I found some cheap 300ma 50-120vdc drivers on aliexpress.com that will drive 4 vero 18s and works great for side lighting. 2 of those and 8 more LEDs and you'd be well flowering intensity.
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Thanks for the info on your light. It looks like a good layout. I've got enough drivers to run 9 v18s @ 500ma putting out around 19000 lumens if I'm correct. I think I'll try ti make three heatsink bars I can connect together some how. Then possibly upgrade the drivers to 700ma or 1050ma for flowering.
 
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