ALL fan leaf NO side chutes wtf is the issue ??

I am pretty new to soil and have recently been running all my mothers in soil. I must say soil has not been my cup of tea. I had some PH problems and believe I worked through that. Now I have a issue at hand that is really got me worried. My plants don't seem to be growing any side chutes. They grow vertical kind of lanky and stretchy with fan leafs but no branches.

I started some from clone and some from seed. I have them in Foxfarm ocean forest and light warrior at a 50/50 mix as of THREE weeks ago. I've been using my usual BC nutes made by Technaflora. PH on water is 5.8 or so, and soil is at 6.5 to 7. Lighting is 18/6. I have NOT been feeding nutes to them because of the nutes that were in the fresh FF soil. I will be doing 1/2 nutes starting today. I did recently top them to see if I could promote growth.

When I planted the clones I put them into 6 inch pots. Do you HAVE TO start in smaller pots and then re pot to larger pots slowly ?

they are making the side branches right now. first thing you learn is that you always gotta wait

Nope, you don't have to go with a small pot first, then transplant. The only risk of using a big pot from the beginning, is overwatering, due to poor drainage.(tiny plants use little water, and the soil can stay too wet, for too long)


If you go to a bigger pot, have good drainage, and sufficient lighting, they'll branch out, in no time.

I am a soil grower and used to start small and then repot but after I while I just started them in the same planter I was going to finish them in with no problem.

Some of my clones would take a while to grow side shoots as well, started using Root 66 (also by Technaflora) and it actually helped. I guess trying to get those roots fully developed will help with the side shoots.

Just a thought

also, you want your finished water, with nutes in it, to be around 6.2- 6.4 PH. this is soil, not hydro.

Hey guys, thanks for your replies. Yeah I know about that wait game wordz lol Im new to soil but not to the game. Im a pretty competent hydro guy. It just seems there all going up and not out. Ill add some nutes and with the recent topping maybe things will liven up. Just get the wrong vibe. Maybe Im used to how fast the rest of my hydro system grows.

that may be it two, but once they get going they can take off

ElectricPineapple said:

that may be it two, but once they get going they can take off

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You from Colorado bro ? Just seen the fat tire avatar

coopdevillan said:

Hey guys, thanks for your replies. Yeah I know about that wait game wordz lol Im new to soil but not to the game. Im a pretty competent hydro guy. It just seems there all going up and not out. Ill add some nutes and with the recent topping maybe things will liven up. Just get the wrong vibe. Maybe Im used to how fast the rest of my hydro system grows.

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I have seen a some of your grows so I know you have good experience!

Soil just takes a little more time, with clones especially they take a bit to start looking good.

coopdevillan said:

You from Colorado bro ? Just seen the fat tire avatar

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Fat Tire is HUGE now, we have it in North Carolina all over the place.

Im a drunk though

those plants will develop other bud sites dont worry. you can encourage it to do that with bending(LST)

DownOnWax said:

Fat Tire is HUGE now, we have it in North Carolina all over the place.

Im a drunk though

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Yeah it's dank beer. I live in Colly where Fat Tire is brewed and I love all New Belgium's brewery's stuff. Specially Sunshine Wheat it's my fav.

you have to realize that soil has nothing to do with it. when you start a plant out from a clone it is using alot of it energy to grow roots. it is spending it time and energy making sure it will be able to grow big and strong. once it has enough roots to absorb the correct amount nutes it will begin to developing branches. i have found i get roots on my clones in anywhere 5 to 10 days and 3 weeks before it starts to look more like a real plant than a clone. so just be patient and give it time. before you know it you will be cloning the clone. its so enjoyable to wait isnt it.

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Yeah it's dank beer. I live in Colly where Fat Tire is brewed and I love all New Belgium's brewery's stuff. Specially Sunshine Wheat it's my fav.

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I still have not seen any of their beers on tap here, weird.

Im sure it will happen though, I live in Beer City USA so I love me some brews.

These came out of my aero cloner with a root system already ??

When they get 5- 8 nodes with good leaves pinch them back a couple of nodes. This relocates the auxins required for cell elongation and division to the lower parts on the plant, encouraging branching of the lower growth.

Bigger pot = a naturally bushier plant. You never had any problems with them branching in hydro, because there's no root constriction. Ever see a bushy plant in a party cup? Nope, they are always narrow, not much wider than the cup, because the roots have limited space. The only way to get them to grow wider, is to train them, or go to a bigger pot.


(genetics, aside)

haha well, no not from there, but i go there probably at least 3-4 times a year and always pick up a couple cases of fat tire, they dont sell it in my state. weird huh

but im fixing to move to colorado so i an become legal, and i got a good job up there. When i was trimming, i couldnt smoke, so i was drinking fat tire, and decided to take some nug pics in the bottles.