AK Bean Brains

Pi$tol

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Instead of putting them in a paper towel. You can put them straight into your soil after a good soak in H2O2. So you dont have to worry about messing up your tap root. I found to have the same high germ rate. Ive only had 1 seed not pop since switching to his method. My only difference is I put them straight into soil after soak
How long do you guys soak them?
 

jimihendrix1

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How long do you guys soak them?
I soak mine until I see the seed starting to crack


I use Uline 32oz Deli Containers, but have also used the 18oz Solo cups for decades. I just like the bigger container. But at this point it doesnt matter.
I use Promix BX as my medium. I then mist the medium so maybe the top 1/4-3/8 of an inch is good and moist, then use a tooth pick to push the pointed end of the seed down into the medium, just enough to cover the seed, and then I slightly mist again to make sure they are buried deep enough so that misting them, wont expose them.

I then mist the underside of some Saran Wrap, and place it on top of the cup(s), and then mist the top of the Saran Wrap to put some weight on it, so it wont come off.

I myelf use a 1000w Hortilux HPS over top of the cups/containers at 24in. I have a box fan fan on low, pointed between the top of the cups, and the bulb.
I like the temperature to be 80f-84f. As soon as I see the seedling start to push through the top of the medium, I remove the Saran Wrap.
Last time I germinated seeds, I planted 105 seeds, and 100 of them came up. I blast my seedlings from day one with a 1000w HID at 24in, and let the plants grow towards the light. Many dont use that much light, but my logic is that they get blasted by the sun, if they are outside from day one, and even more blasted if they are at the equator, and 7000-8000 feet up in the mountains. I see no reason not to blast them from day one. Ive been using this method since 1978, when they first introdyced HID, though tehn it was Metal Halide, while will also work fine, and if I used a metal halide, Id use the Hortilux Blue bulb. And I have used it, and really dont notice a hill of beans difference usiing either bulb. The Hortilux HPS has a higher umol value. I do use the Hortilux Blue for maintaining Mother plants.

I also sometimes use a Gavita 1700e for seedlings at full power, and also 24 inches. Either way Im a an advocate of strong light from the beginning. I also use a 24/0 light scheme. I may sometimes turn the light off every 3 days, for 4 hours to give the lights a rest. I change bulbs every 2 flowering cycles, or every 120 days. for veg cycle.
 

C2F Exotic

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How long do you guys soak them?
For older seeds i soak until slightly cracked or i see a small film on seed. Newer seeds only need 1-2 hour soak then straight into soil. Hydro i imagine would work the same way but place in rockwool. (Regarding other question above.) Keep in mind I have not tried the hydro way. But i know the soil method works 100%. But if someone decides to try and test the hydro way id be happy to know your results!
 

Tolerance Break

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For older seeds i soak until slightly cracked or i see a small film on seed. Newer seeds only need 1-2 hour soak then straight into soil. Hydro i imagine would work the same way but place in rockwool. (Regarding other question above.) Keep in mind I have not tried the hydro way. But i know the soil method works 100%. But if someone decides to try and test the hydro way id be happy to know your results!
Rockwool can be tricky when the environment isn't totally dialed in.

The weather here is all over the place, and my grow room is subject to some variable changed in temp and humidity that in turn changes how quickly the cubes dry out.

I'm doing some experimenting right now with rockwool and paper towels. Will share updates when I have something worth sharing.
 

TheWholeTruth

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$60 packs

68 Santa Cruz Haze/M48 F2

68 Santa Cruz Haze/M48 F3

A1/Super Skunk

A1 Testerossa/Skunk Qabbage

AK 4 Way Pure indica BX F2

Americanna/Black Dom HP NL1

Americanna/NL1

Americanna/TK NL5 Haze

Americana Big Skunk BX

Americanna/Super Skunk

Big Skunk/A1

Big Skunk/Hawaiian Cat Piss

Big Skunk/NL1

Big Skunk/Williams Wonder

Black Domina/MTFNL1
Black Dom NW Hash Plant/Super Skunk

Black Domina/Super Skunk

Black Domina/TKNL5 Haze

Black Triangle/Americanna F2

Blue Balls

Blueberry/Freezeland

Blueberry/Lemon Glade

Blueberry Muffin/Romulan

Blue Blood/MTF

Blue Blood/Romulan

Blue Blood/Super Skunk

Blue Blood/Vintage Blueberry

Blue Dream/TK NL5 Haze (blue meanie)

Blue Dream/TK-TK NL5 Haze

Boel Oaxacan/Dwarf Oaxacan

CGPR/Romulan

Deathstarosa F2

Dope Beard Durban/Consumption

Dope Beard Durban/Rhodesian Poison

DTHF F4

Durbalayan (77himolayan/Durban f3)

Freezeland IBL

G13 Grailhaze-MTF-NL1/Consumption

Gasolime/MTF

GMO/Blueberry (rotten berries)

Gorilla Glue 4/Black Domina-NWHP-NL1

Grapefruit Web/Grapefruit Bad Ass
GSC/NL1

GST Skunk/Black Domina-NWHP-NL1

Heavy Duty Friuty/Grape God FPOG

ISS-NL1/MTF

Karel’s Haze/Starfighter

Knik Goosebay Blueberry/Super Skunk

Lemontree/chocolate Thai -NL2

Lime OG/Durban

Lime OG/Williams Wonder

Loang Probang/Black Domina

Local PHK/Durban Poison

Macanuska/NL1

Matty Cakes

Medical Skunk

Moonshine Haze/NL5

MTF/PHC

MTF/Sherberghan

NL1 Big Skunk/NL1

NL5-NL1/Super Skunk

Oaxacan/Big Skunk

PHC-NL1/TKNL5 Haze

PHC/Big Skunk

PHK/Durban Poison

PHK NL1

PHK/Williams Wonder

PHK/Vintage Blueberry

Rip Snort (Mango Biche)/TKNL5 Haze

Romulan/MTF-NL1

SensiStar Big Skunk

SensiStar/Durban

Skunk Qabbage/Genius Thai Americanna

Skunk Qabbage/Mango

Skunk Qabbage/MTF BX F1

Skunk Qabbage/TKNL5 Haze

Skunk Qabbage/Purple-Stardawg F1
Smuckers Grailhaze-C99/MTF NL1

So Rom (So Hum/Romulan)

SSH/TK NL 5 Haze

Stardawg NL1/Super Skunk

Stardawg/Starfighter F2

Stardawg/Super Skunk

Sunset Octane/TK NL5 HAZE

Sunshine 4/Ghash

Sunshine 4-Ghash/Blueberry Thai

Sunshine 4-Ghash/Consumption

Sunshine 4-Ghash-Hash Plant/NL5

Sunshine 4-Ghash/Rhodesian Poison

Sunshine 4-Ghash/Williams Wonder

The One/Chocolope

The One/Chocolate Thai -NL2

TK NL5 Haze/Black Domina NW Hash Plant-NL1

TK NL5 Haze/Hawaiian Cat Piss

TK NL5 Haze/ MTF

TKNL5 Haze/NL5

TK NL5 Haze/Sawtooth Skunk

TK/TK NL5 Haze F2

TK NL5 Haze/PHK-NL1

TK-TK NL5 Haze/Chocolate Thai NL2

Tropolope/Super Skunk

Vintage Blueberry

Williams Wonder/Vintage Blueberry
Hhhm I wonder were he got that 68 in his santa cruz haze from. The only santa cruz hazes that have stayed mostly in santa cruz come from work done in 1980-82 to revive it. So very very far from 68. Or is it that he has made some hybrid him self with some different 68 heirloom type and crossed it to santacruz haze to make 68 x santacruz haze ?
 
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TheWholeTruth

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Oh its just old timers haze and then worked by ace and from there went to bco which is were snowhigh, kagu, bodi ect got it from. For a second I thought it was a plant kept in clone form coming from a seed that had been made in 1968, but it is from seed worked and remade almost half a century later. Should of just called it wat it was, oldtimers haze.
 

Ilikesnacks

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Oh its just old timers haze and then worked by ace and from there went to bco which is were snowhigh, kagu, bodi ect got it from. For a second I thought it was a plant kept in clone form coming from a seed that had been made in 1968, but it is from seed worked and remade almost half a century later. Should of just called it wat it was, oldtimers haze.
Where did you find this info?
M48 is a South African sativa crossed to haze right?

Im going to pop a few of these
Thanks
 

TheWholeTruth

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Where did you find this info?
M48 is a South African sativa crossed to haze right?

Im going to pop a few of these
Thanks
M48 should be a inbred version of nevils southafrican x haze c. He won one of the cups with it around 88-90 and then sssc took it on. It was really really good as a f1, dont know how it was after that. You'll have to let us know.

The 68 santacruz info might still be on one of the coastal seed page descriptions (they sometimes call it. 60-70 commune haze). But its defo based of aces version of oldtimers haze. After ace did some work with it they sent some clones back to oldtimer through hothouse flowers who ran bco with kagu. But hothouse hijacked the clones and kept them to make bco's haze. Quite a few things that kagu at costal, snowhigh, kiona and bodi (longflowering sativas) come from bco (breeders choice org).
 

Turpman

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MTF thes are sure different plants than anything I’ve grown. Beefy structure. Real short pistols. Smell fantastic fruity some with coffee chocolate.
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907 bluegenes wonderful blueberry nose on some of these girls. Somewhat stockey self supporting.
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HCP yep smell is a bit different. A little early to tell but they are coming along nicely.
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shamed

Member
Seeds talks, rumours walks !

Hi ✌

It's going to be my first time growing AK Brain Beans gears. As you may know or not know, once my very good Polak friend told me "haters are the best fans !"

I almost read the entier thread, i'm more of comics books whore than a bunch of letters put together.

It's the haters post that trigger me to jump over the fence and try some Alaskan fresh breeze ‍☠

Some of my close relatives including myself needs your help

If you have grown or smoked any of those AK strains, help a broke brother to make up is mind ‍

Rate those strains from 1 to 10, for smell/taste, bag appeal, potency

Rate those strains from 1 to 10, for positif effects.
Getting things done, happy mood, paradis bubble matrix life

Rate those strains side effects negatively from -1 to -10, for anxiety, sadness, procrastinate

1) Black Domina IBX
2) Matty Cakes
3) Sunset Octane/TK NL5 HAZE
4) Vintage BB x BB Muffin
5) RKS-DC/SS F3
6) Kali Mist F4
7) PHK BX4
5) TK NL5 Haze F3
6) Hawaiian Cat Piss
7) Beatrix choice
8) PHK/TK NL5 Haze
 

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Nope_49595933949

Well-Known Member
Seeds talks, rumours walks !

Hi ✌

It's going to be my first time growing AK Brain Beans gears. As you may know or not know, once my very good Polak friend told me "haters are the best fans !"

I almost read the entier thread, i'm more of comics books whore than a bunch of letters put together.

It's the haters post that trigger me to jump over the fence and try some Alaskan fresh breeze ‍☠

Some of my close relatives including myself needs your help

If you have grown or smoked any of those AK strains, help a broke brother to make up is mind ‍

Rate those strains from 1 to 10, for smell/taste, bag appeal, potency

Rate those strains from 1 to 10, for positif effects.
Getting things done, happy mood, paradis bubble matrix life

Rate those strains side effects negatively from -1 to -10, for anxiety, sadness, procrastinate

1) Black Domina IBX
2) Matty Cakes
3) Sunset Octane/TK NL5 HAZE
4) Vintage BB x BB Muffin
5) RKS-DC/SS F3
6) Kali Mist F4
7) PHK BX4
5) TK NL5 Haze F3
6) Hawaiian Cat Piss
7) Beatrix choice
8) PHK/TK NL5 Haze
What?
 

GrownAtHighAltitude

Well-Known Member
Rate those strains from 1 to 10, for smell/taste, bag appeal, potency

Rate those strains from 1 to 10, for positif effects.
Getting things done, happy mood, paradis bubble matrix life

Rate those strains side effects negatively from -1 to -10, for anxiety, sadness, procrastinate
You criteria is highly phenotype dependent, but I can recommend the Kali Mist and Cat Piss. They are both uplifting strains.
 
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