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I say run 'em. Even though mine hermed, I still cured it out and gave it a try. Its good weed. Like Curious said, it's nothing special though. Who knows, you might get that special plant!
AG seed co aka Authentic Genetics by Todd McCormick
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I say run 'em. Even though mine hermed, I still cured it out and gave it a try. Its good weed. Like Curious said, it's nothing special though. Who knows, you might get that special plant!
Im about 3 weeks out from popping my pack of skunk#1 run as well. But i think your absolutely right, at this point its a pheno hunt. Its, one of us are going to pop that lucky seed and bam! We got old school skunk.
The question is, the person who gets the lucky seed, are they knowledgeable enough to know they need to hunt these seeds? Odds are some guys gonna end up with a pack, run the best smoke of his life and will spend the next two years asking eveyone why he can't grow the same quality gas again lmao
Its a task for sure but ill be running mine only 5 at a time due to space limitations. But i assure you this, if i do get the golden ticket, i ain't gonna lose it lol
The question is, the person who gets the lucky seed, are they knowledgeable enough to know they need to hunt these seeds? Odds are some guys gonna end up with a pack, run the best smoke of his life and will spend the next two years asking eveyone why he can't grow the same quality gas again lmao
Its a task for sure but ill be running mine only 5 at a time due to space limitations. But i assure you this, if i do get the golden ticket, i ain't gonna lose it lol
When yours hermed did they set many seeds? I've had nanners without seed set or little seed set in some finicky plants.
At least that but wow, I've never seen anything like that!
conor c
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I have but to a lesser extent not as bad as those and that was with 80s red skunk stuff seems the early gens of skunk when it first went to holland vs later gens are alot more sexually unstable you woulda thought agseeds would have cleaned it up a bit before release clearly not tho so many people having problems it cant be grower error
I don't think it was grower error either even though I was the grower. This was an indoor grow where temp and humidity were stable. Also, it was a drain to waste hydro grow so it got fresh nutes every feeding. I also try to keep ph in the 5.8-6.2 range. First plant I've had that did this.
I've got his Purest Indica in flower now and it's looking good. So far.
Here it is week 4 flower:
No I didn't think it was grower error.
conor c
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Yeah its not you mate thats what im saying i know a few folk who also had the same problem as you with the skunk from them and they didnt do nun wrong either its genetic/selection thats the issue clearly
ChronicNuggets
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I find him to be a little too weird, and I generally like weirdos. Bad vibes, can’t purchase
Tolerance Break
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My 2 cents, he is a preservationist, not a breeder, and his livelihood depends on a controversial narrative, so he projects a snake oil salesman vibe. Growing up around criminals and doing time didn't help, and I am not judging him for that, I just know alot of people who are in a similar boat with similar eccentricities. I'm not saying anyone should trust him, but I choose to believe him until I am given reason not to. His prices help quite a bit, considering most places that make similar claims are charging 2x to 3x the price. I am willing to take chances at 50 bucks a pack.
If he's not lying about their lineage, I'll risk some herms for some old school smoke.
Charles U Farley
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"Old school smoke" almost _never_ hermed, it wasn't chemically feminized, or feminized at all for that matter.
Ask Mr. McCormick if he's done anything whatsoever to stabilize the "strains" he received from the Boomer legends and how stable is the phenotypical expression of each of his "strains" . It _should_ be something like this, but it _won't_ be:
Then ask him how many plants he did on his first F1 grow for each of his "strains" and how uniform were the plants. You might also want to inquire about his grow enviroment.... Indoor versus outdoor, organic versus chemical fertilizers, soil vs. hydroponic, etc. to see if it matches your environment. _I_ might also inquire why his _old school_ Skunk direct from Watson/Skunkman has no smell?
I would disagree that he's a "preservationist. Almost everything he's selling was developed by somebody else, he's just marketing seeds using their names. Preservationists don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars on two page full color ads in Grow magazines just to sell their seeds.
For Boomers by Boomers.
Tolerance Break
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They wouldnt be f1, they would be F whatever skunkman sam brought them to.
... a preservationist sells things developed by someone else.
Skunkman sam allegedly bred out the skunk smell because it actually wasnt preferable when cultivation would net 20 plus year prison sentences.
I am going to grow them. If you would like to ask him something, email him. While youre at it, email DJ short and ask him why his Blueberry thats been worked since the 70s still herms, and tell him that shouldnt be possible while youre at it.
For the life of me i can't figure out how to like this post?
So I'll just say BOOM.... MIC DROP!
Charles U Farley
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Since the general tone and tenor of this forum is much improved now compared to last year, I'm going to choose not to respond to your post how I normally would.
But for the record, incorrect definition of preservationist, Skunkman did not "breed out" the smell, and DJ Shorts Blueberry herms because he polyploided it with cholchicine... and it wasn't developed in the 70's. From Vic High of the BCGA website circa 1999:
"Reported to produce large crystalized buds with natural occurring blueish hues and an unmistakable berry taste and aroma.
Of the ten seeds, I got 5 males and 5 females. They all started out looking very deformed with wrinkled leaves and varigation. At first I thought it was do to excessive inbreeding but later found out that the strain was treated with cholchicine. Two males and one female were precosious and would not stop flowering regardless of light cycle. These were discarded. Of the remaining 3 males, two would not shed pollen (they would flower but the pollen would not drop). These were also discarded."
Tolerance Break
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Dj short claims he started working on it in the late 70s. I am unfamiliar with colchicine, but I'll do some research later today.
Skunkman sam claims he bred towards the sweeter skunk and away from skunk skunk. Admittedly, he claims alot of shit, but I wasn't there, so I'm just going off the narrative that makes the most sense from the people who were.
Todd has crosses, but most of his stuff is kept pure and allegedly comes from the source. If that's not preservation, idk what would qualify. Again, I'm presuming he's not lying. I can't make promises that he's legit, that's for everyone to decide.
conor c
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Yeah i think sam talks alot of shit alot of the time if he was a breeder why would you never improve haze i think the guy just got others work then presented it as his own look at cali o he tryed to claim he invented it when everybody knows it was another other guys work he worked skunk#1 idk about if he made it on his own he may not have i just take half the shit he says with a pinch of salt
conor c
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Basically back in the day people claimed that using colchine a mutagenic compound they thought you could use it to produce mutagenic plants better than normal however in reality it produced crappy mutants thats why you dont see many using it some think this is how we managed to increase thc content in some lines i dont personally i think thats down to good starting genetics and good selection but i know a few old old heads who thought this
Effect of Induced Polyploidy on Some Biochemical Parameters in Cannabis sativa L. - Applied Biochemistry and Biotechnology
This study is aimed at testing the efficiency of colchicine on inducing polyploidy in Cannabis sativa L. and investigation of effects of polyploidy induction on some primary and secondary metabolites. Shoot tips were treated with three different concentrations of colchicine (0, 0.1, 0.2 % w/v)...
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conor c
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Exactly its not very usefulEffect of Induced Polyploidy on Some Biochemical Parameters in Cannabis sativa L. - Applied Biochemistry and Biotechnology
This study is aimed at testing the efficiency of colchicine on inducing polyploidy in Cannabis sativa L. and investigation of effects of polyploidy induction on some primary and secondary metabolites. Shoot tips were treated with three different concentrations of colchicine (0, 0.1, 0.2 % w/v)...