Aerocloners unite!!!

grandpabear3

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As it gets better at using the moisture in the RR, I dip more. I just do it by sight but I really do let those fuckers soak up whatever they can at this point. I never do it more than 2x a day though. I only end up pouring the water into the tray at the end, and I am pouring just enough that they soak up what they need and the rest evaps fairly quickly. I can't say I suggest that for everyone, just saying that as long as the RR's are wet, they will take your shit and produce roots most of the time. I do use a heatpad, but don't need it. I produce roots with or without it, no thermostat on it either.
ya.....i took the domes off right.......and like 8 hours later they wilted like crazy ......i guess i'll leave it on but i really do wanna take it off after the 1st week. i got roots at 9 days so yipee....thats better and if i can keep it up i'll go back to 2 weeks instead of 3 weeks between harvests. i use the method old in the way uses almost identical to his wich is almost identical to al's . and i think i agree on the heat mat, but i still use mine just in case. dont know if i will in the dead heat of summer though.....ya know?
anyway just updatin ya .......so, the wilt ......what do you think happened? dried up faster than normal????
 

grandpabear3

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I had been changing a lot of other things too Its kind of hard to tell what was helping.
ya , i did that for months
After I started getting %100, I started cutting out steps to see what mattered.
so did I
Nothing mattered!
well i found that several things mattered in my op
Now I just cut the stem dip it in nothing (not even any water!) stick it in a new RR plug,
i find people with your level of luck in this area to be the rule and spork and i are the exceptions. but rest assured between the two of us we covered every possible angle and reason why we sucked sooooo hard with the cloners. he said fuck it and so did i. then i tried the cycle timer and all of a sudden i was in your boat where nothing mattered. it works every time now. and the rr's are the same for me at this point. it was just a very long and expensive road.
then I put that in the cloner (the one with the UV thingy, air bubbles, and water heater).
what uv thingy?...link please.
I see roots within a few days and the time to root seems to have most to do with the sturdiness of the stem I cut.
i agree that thicker stemmed cuttings make bigger/better clones faster than skimpy ones.
I have been told that the clone hormones come packed with fungside, and that is what helps. I dont know but for me its a waste of money, and messy.
right on and congrats on being good at cloning. not kidding

well use em both....this one gets carried away sometimes.:mrgreen:

From The Very Begginig I Think This Is By Far The Fastest Way To Clone I Have Ever Tried Excellent Man I Love Em;-)
ya they are pretty sweet. when/if you can get em' workin'
 

Return of the Spork

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ya.....i took the domes off right.......and like 8 hours later they wilted like crazy ......i guess i'll leave it on but i really do wanna take it off after the 1st week. i got roots at 9 days so yipee....thats better and if i can keep it up i'll go back to 2 weeks instead of 3 weeks between harvests. i use the method old in the way uses almost identical to his wich is almost identical to al's . and i think i agree on the heat mat, but i still use mine just in case. dont know if i will in the dead heat of summer though.....ya know?
anyway just updatin ya .......so, the wilt ......what do you think happened? dried up faster than normal????
I know there is more chemically going on than this, but this is what I think happens in normal person terms.

Turgor is basically the cell being so inflated with water that it causes the cells to push up against eachother causing stiffness in the stem.

Now I don't know if this is how it works, but at some point, the plant seems to "decide" to stop transpiring as much because it lost its source of water from the air. Now it has to keep itself turgid from what it can get from the stem below. Now it doesn't have roots yet but it can still absorb water through the stem, so it does, but stops transpiration to the degree that it comes back to life, and becomes more stiff, even though you no longer have it in a hood.

My clones don't even get a hood anymore, I cut em, plant em, stick em next to my mother plants under the same light even. Few minutes after cutting they get floppy up top....1-2 hours later they are back to normal. 1 or 2 normally don't quite make it as perky and straight as they used to be, but a little training in the first week or two of flowering fixes that easily enough.

I always plan to clone the same day as my cycle day, but sometimes don't get to it until 3-5 days later. They all start to root within 5-7 days (depends on strain, my original strain takes 1 to 2 days longer than the rest, guess which strain was in the aerocloner too), and are just busting by the time the full 14 days comes around, so I have a decent window that is working thusfar. If stuff doesn't clone, then I just throw less, but larger plants in.


The reason they always say that 6hr dark period or whatever, I think has to do with fucking with the daily lifecycle of the plant to make it stop transpiration so that it didn't lose water it already had, and didn't wilt. I think that was suggested in Al's method, but imo, RW is all about the "hug" and how moist it is, and it is very easy to make it to moist, not moist enough, and the second that stem moves ANY, the hole it was in is just not big enough anymore. RR's are just so much more spongy, so I don't bother with a dark period, overcomplicates things. The RR's give the stem plenty of water to recover from the wilt.
 

grandpabear3

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oh....sorry, i did that during day 7 or 8. but good info all around. but ya they were perfect and i said screw the dome ....took it off and wah wah waaaaaa.
 

Return of the Spork

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When I used to use the dome, I would use a "hardening" technique.

Basically you open one of the top holes, next day open both or more if you have em. Then next day take hood off for like an hour and put back on, repeat through day couple times if you can

Then increase the amount of time until you just leave it off.

That keeps their stems more solidified and readies them for the less humid air. It is in my opinion unnecessary as they perk back up for me in very little time anyways. It may have to do with how they are cut though. I never guarantee similar results lol. Cloning is a very...personal thing.
 
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