Aerocloners unite!!!

ok one of the side by side pics is the difference between the 2 we were discussing. just bigger not too much wider

https://www.rollitup.org/members/bugsrnme-albums-dont-call-comeback.html

Here are wider angles so you can see my level of crowding. The ones I trimmed more ended up with more height, but the bud looks comparable. I understand the benefit but just wanted to try to see what happened on ones I didn't trim much or at all.

But anyways as you can see I already seem to be at my max so I don't want to risk more because after the next 2 cycles they will all be in square pots in trays made to fit them and I wont have much room to work with.

With these pics in mind you think I would be fine? Obviously a big strain difference tho

ya i grow sativa and those look like some packed indicas.....beautiful but not overcrowded. just the fan leaves touching and you have a fan so your good imo. mine get fat like that in the last week or so but look skinny till then. you got your shit together ....those are wonderfully dense looking

Thanks for the compliments, I will continue experimenting to see how I can get the best yield. I was expecting more height myself. These are Jack Herer's and my first strain grown. I have other strains in the lineup now but I could never really tell what traits showed the most. I have seen some indicas that look nothing like that, and then sativas that look nothing like that. I am willing to bet that perhaps it is just hybridized fairly well and just is what it is. I wouldn't mind taller buds that thick though...which is why I am curious about that extra veg time. I have no problem making an intermediate area for them to root better before flower. Not really veg time moreso than extra root growth time perhaps? Probably not neccessary.

Can't wait to see flowering profile of these other babies.

Humidity seems to stay around 50% in the bushes, so with the airflow it should be peachy.

Return of the Spork said:

I wouldn't mind taller buds that thick though...which is why I am curious about that extra veg time. I have no problem making an intermediate area for them to root better before flower. Not really veg time moreso than extra root growth time perhaps? Probably not neccessary.

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no...thats exactly right.....just insane roots so that when it hits flower it takes the fuck off.

Can't wait to see flowering profile of these other babies.

Humidity seems to stay around 50% in the bushes, so with the airflow it should be peachy.

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sounds like you got it all dialed in man

are you guys using a rooting gel or humid dome? i couldnt find your journal with lots of pics

theplantkiller420 said:

are you guys using a rooting gel or humid dome? i couldnt find your journal with lots of pics

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i use rooting gel with my cuttings in my cloners and in my rapid rooters in humidomes.. ya i deleted all my pics not to long ago for security reasons. sorry about that. i use olivias cloning gel but i've been thinking about switching to powder. and i use clonex solution in my cloners. along with hygrozyme in both and h2o2 in the cloner, when i'm not out of it.
but hell some fuckers can get roots with nothing more than straight tapwater. not me. i need magic.

bugsrnme said:

i use rooting gel with my cuttings in my cloners and in my rapid rooters in humidomes.. ya i deleted all my pics not to long ago for security reasons. sorry about that. i use olivias cloning gel but i've been thinking about switching to powder. and i use clonex solution in my cloners. along with hygrozyme in both and h2o2 in the cloner, when i'm not out of it.
but hell some fuckers can get roots with nothing more than straight tapwater. not me. i need magic.

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with the rapid rooter plugs I dont use any hormone. I have noticed no difference without it now that I get reliable results from my setup.

I used to use a humidity dome with my RR's, but they really don't need it. As long as you keep em wet they do their thing. I continue to use rooting gel, but when I run out I am going to try it without and I don't expect any problems, I am at 100% now at this point and am always throwing away extras.

Return of the Spork said:

I used to use a humidity dome with my RR's, but they really don't need it. As long as you keep em wet they do their thing. I continue to use rooting gel, but when I run out I am going to try it without and I don't expect any problems, I am at 100% now at this point and am always throwing away extras.

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you know, spork.....i have been trying to find someone who i "know" on here to adress that very issue. the domes keep em a lil too wet but my heat mat can make em use up some water. so i water them about twice a day now. if i loose the dome whaddaya think'll happen? watering about the same or much more ????

curious.george said:

with the rapid rooter plugs I dont use any hormone. I have noticed no difference without it now that I get reliable results from my setup.

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i've done it with nothing but water and just stuck em in. and they grew but the batch wasnt the best ever, could have been a million other things. but, when i do the other stuff i never have issues. so i guess it's peace of mind to a point.

When I lost the dome I had to water more, however the RR's have actually allowed me to get pretty lazy. I have a simple nursery tray with an insert that is meant for RW cubes, so they are all held a little above the bottom, and I just pour in water so the RR's can just soak up what they need. Kind of lazy but the RR's are just fucking awesome.

The real reason I don't use the dome is that I am trying to take clones that are just too big for it. I mist them the first couple of days lightly, but I don't even think they really need that.

Return of the Spork said:

When I lost the dome I had to water more, however the RR's have actually allowed me to get pretty lazy.

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like more than 2 times a day? and i hear ya on the "lazy" thing.

I have a simple nursery tray with an insert that is meant for RW cubes, so they are all held a little above the bottom,

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that is exactly what i have now.....hehehehehehe arent we cool?

and I just pour in water so the RR's can just soak up what they need. Kind of lazy but the RR's are just fucking awesome.

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oh wow , now that scares me, i'll stick to spraying the rr's to water. kinda used to it now plus it gives me an excuse to play around and check on things.

The real reason I don't use the dome is that I am trying to take clones that are just too big for it.

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that is one of my concerns. i could take much larger cuttings but the dome limits me sometimes.

I mist them the first couple of days lightly, but I don't even think they really need that.

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well shit. now you got me wanting to try something different..............

Nothing wrong with cutting a few extra and trying them on their own. The plant I just harvested was one of the 2foot clones I made for shits n giggles. I had to top it to make it fit into flower area nicely but it produced well. =)

When they start, I check them everyday, and will mist the first 1-3 days, but overall I just make sure they are wet, which they usually remain even with the hood off. After a couple of days, they start to dry up. I don't really hold the dip long, i just make sure it submerges so water can get to where the stem is through the top. Once I am confident some water made it into the sweet spot, I put them back.

As it gets better at using the moisture in the RR, I dip more. I just do it by sight but I really do let those fuckers soak up whatever they can at this point. I never do it more than 2x a day though. I only end up pouring the water into the tray at the end, and I am pouring just enough that they soak up what they need and the rest evaps fairly quickly. I can't say I suggest that for everyone, just saying that as long as the RR's are wet, they will take your shit and produce roots most of the time. I do use a heatpad, but don't need it. I produce roots with or without it, no thermostat on it either.

bugsrnme said:

i've done it with nothing but water and just stuck em in. and they grew but the batch wasnt the best ever, could have been a million other things. but, when i do the other stuff i never have issues. so i guess it's peace of mind to a point.

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I had been changing a lot of other things too Its kind of hard to tell what was helping. After I started getting %100, I started cutting out steps to see what mattered. Nothing mattered! Now I just cut the stem dip it in nothing (not even any water!) stick it in a new RR plug, then I put that in the cloner (the one with the UV thingy, air bubbles, and water heater). I see roots within a few days and the time to root seems to have most to do with the sturdiness of the stem I cut. I have been told that the clone hormones come packed with fungside, and that is what helps. I dont know but for me its a waste of money, and messy.

Awwww.. i never saw this thread and started my own.
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/168507-lets-talk-aerocloners.html

Rite So I Just Thort Id Say I Think AeroCloners Are Wicked Just Switched To One And Had A Root In 3 Days Its Been 5 Days Now And I Ent Looked So Gonna Go Check On Them Now Il Post Pics In A Bit

I Ues 1/4 Strengh

CannaStart
Rhizotonic
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From The Very Begginig I Think This Is By Far The Fastest Way To Clone I Have Ever Tried Excellent Man I Love Em

whats a rapid rooter

Real questions are one thing, shit like that is easily googled though =)

theplantkiller420 said:

whats a rapid rooter

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one'a dese.
they are made of a sponge like organic material. used for taking cuttings. and growing clones or starting seeds in.
dont mind spork, but he's right.