Advanced NUtrients is CHEAPER than GH...

Yup, that's right. I just found this video and I gotta say, I've always liked Advanced Nutrients, but now I'm even more impressed with the nutes.

[video=youtube;7ysYNpjLax8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ysYNpjLax8[/video]
 

hugetom80s

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too bad it doesn't actually retail for under ten dollars.
Jungle juice is sold in a local store for $15 per liter and it retails on amazon for $20 per liter.

http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Nutrients-Jungle-Juice-Bloom/dp/B00584M95W
Your local store's price is determined a lot by how much it costs to ship it. I can get it cheaper than that locally.

Also, that link you provided DOES have (at least when I looked) an option to buy it for less than $10. It just costs more than that with shipping. The $19.24 you're looking at comes with "Free Shipping" which everyone knows is just a way of saying they've included the cost of shipping in the price. Nothing gets shipped for free.


Cost is determined largely by supply and demand, but the cost of moving the product from source to end user will always increase it's cost. Any company that decides to just take a loss on shipping will find itself broke in short order. For that reason AN products are no doubt cheaper in BC than they are in the US, and cheaper in the US than they are in Africa (if you can even find them there). The longer and harder the shipping, the more the shelf price will be.
 

Izoc666

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last week ago i went to my hydro local to see AN s juice but its kinda expensive for me and it will much cheap to buy GH floraDuo for 10 buck per bottle.
 

ClosetSafe

Active Member
Also, that link you provided DOES have (at least when I looked) an option to buy it for less than $10. It just costs more than that with shipping. The $19.24 you're looking at comes with "Free Shipping" which everyone knows is just a way of saying they've included the cost of shipping in the price. Nothing gets shipped for free.
Yes, that price that was linked has changed since I posted it.

And apparently i'm late as homebrewer made the post before me
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/444397-avanced-nut-s-jungle-juice.html#post5954145
 

homebrewer

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Yes, that price that was linked has changed since I posted it.

And apparently i'm late as homebrewer made the post before me
https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/444397-avanced-nut-s-jungle-juice.html#post5954145
It looks like the prices for monkey juice have changed on Amazon as well since I posted. What I find interesting though is that AN claims to be cannabis-specific with their team of "PhDs" and tissue samples, yet they choose to copy off GH??? And even when you spring for the more expensive stuff like Connoisseur, you're still left with smaller yields and poor plant health.

Here is a post from Dizzlekush found here: https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/426098-advanced-nutrients-bloom-nutrients-advice-5.html#post6136478

Hey Yall! its me, that one guy that was repping AN HARD. well i decided to see if what homebrewer, uncle ben and many other people have been saying about dyna-gro is true... so the next grow i switched from AN to Dyna Gro and now.... i have about 20 gallon of AN thats never gonna get used. man do i feed dumb. still dont think Dyna Gro has a great NPK bloom formula but it still works great at a fraction of the price. between Dyna Gro and Jacks Classic im now spending about 1/5 of the money i spent on AN and am getting better results now.

my apologies and thanks to homebrewer, and i suggest any AN user (like my old self) give some other non plant specific companies a try, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 

squarepush3r

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Its just a trick by AN to get GH users to switch over, and eventually to buy AN's 'original line' of nutrients.
 

cannawizard

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*Advanced Nutrients... #1 overrated & overpriced POS nute line...

[video=youtube;th9ZR4NRIl0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th9ZR4NRIl0&feature=related[/video]
 
It looks like the prices for monkey juice have changed on Amazon as well since I posted. What I find interesting though is that AN claims to be cannabis-specific with their team of "PhDs" and tissue samples, yet they choose to copy off GH??? And even when you spring for the more expensive stuff like Connoisseur, you're still left with smaller yields and poor plant health.

Here is a post from Dizzlekush found here: https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/426098-advanced-nutrients-bloom-nutrients-advice-5.html#post6136478
Whats weird to me is how Dyna-gro has taken off again. I remember when I started working at a hydro store in 2003, they had Dyna Gro on the bottom shelves and the manager at the time said people use to love it and then it just died out.
 

tip top toker

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My two cents. I can add all the same ingredients into a pan as Jamie Oliver but people think mine tastes crap in comparison.
 

homebrewer

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Whats weird to me is how Dyna-gro has taken off again. I remember when I started working at a hydro store in 2003, they had Dyna Gro on the bottom shelves and the manager at the time said people use to love it and then it just died out.
I'd never even heard of it before I joined here and saw Uncle Ben suggesting it as one of the only 100% complete fertilizers on the market. On performance alone, I can't say enough great things about it, as a bonus it just happens to be very economical to use.
 

deew

Active Member
I was told by my local hydro shop that AN does not allow them to discount their products. They offer 15% off everything if you sign up for their loyalty program at this shop, that is everything except AN.
 

Izoc666

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I was told by my local hydro shop that AN does not allow them to discount their products. They offer 15% off everything if you sign up for their loyalty program at this shop, that is everything except AN.
Honestly, I rather sign up for GHs loyalty program than AN's :)
 
I was told by my local hydro shop that AN does not allow them to discount their products. They offer 15% off everything if you sign up for their loyalty program at this shop, that is everything except AN.
Thats what they say but its never enforced as stores would tell them to eat it. Here's even a better one. About 6 months ago AN came up with this gem. If a store didn't carry at least one of each product in their line AN would cut the store off from buying any AN products. LOL didn't work too well as everyone laughed at it and then magically they blamed it on a regional manager not reding a memo from the owners properly. Yah....

The AN sales rep is a pretty good buy but he took a lot of flak for this from the stores. Lots of "I guess you gonna be out of a job soon..." jokes
 

hugetom80s

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What I find interesting though is that AN claims to be cannabis-specific with their team of "PhDs" and tissue samples, yet they choose to copy off GH???
The reason for that seems pretty clear to me. People frequently compare AN's Grow/Micro/Bloom three parter to GH's. So this is AN's way of showing that not only are the two quite different, but that if they copy GH's formula they can do it a lot cheaper than GH does.

And even when you spring for the more expensive stuff like Connoisseur, you're still left with smaller yields and poor plant health.
Not for me.

This is the key difference. I tell people what I've personally experienced, while you're telling people what will be universally experienced. No one can know that. I know without a shred of doubt that you're not correct because I've personally seen the evidence in my own grows that proves you're not right, at least not every time for every person.

You refuse to accept that anyone could have a different opinion from you and also be correct.

That, more than anything else, is what I take issue with.
 

DanksME

Active Member
thoughts on AN sensi bloom parts A + B...? I bought both at my local hydro shop for $30, which I though was decent. I'm a new grower, but I'm more that happy with the results so far.
 

homebrewer

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This is the key difference. I tell people what I've personally experienced, while you're telling people what will be universally experienced. No one can know that. I know without a shred of doubt that you're not correct because I've personally seen the evidence in my own grows that proves you're not right, at least not every time for every person.
I should have said '...And even when you spring for the more expensive stuff like Connoisseur, you're still left with smaller yields and poor plant health comparatively to other nute brands I've used'.

I used a 600 HPS with Connoisseur and yielded a pound of AK47. That may be impressive to some but not to me. That's well below my average which is why I make statements like the one above. In regards to your experience, where is your experience? You and your band of AN pushers don't have any journals so are we to take you at your word?
 

hugetom80s

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I should have said '...And even when you spring for the more expensive stuff like Connoisseur, you're still left with smaller yields and poor plant health comparatively to other nute brands I've used'.
Actually you should have said that you're left with smaller yields and poor plant health compared to other nute brands you've used.

I don't have that problem. Not everyone experiences the same difficulties you seem to have with Advanced Nutrients.


As for the reasons I don't post pictures there are several. And beyond the most obvious one (security) the simple answer is that I don't value compliments for something that can't actually be experience through the relevant form of media. I can't photograph taste or quality.

You point to my lack of photographs as some kind of evidence of something. But let's say I posted a bunch of pictures. What does that prove? Nothing beyond the ability to post photographs - a rudimentary and ultimately inconsequential skill in the modern age. It doesn't prove the pictures are mine. We all generally operate under the principle that everyone posts pictures that are their own, but it's naive to think that's actually the truth.

And since there are a non-zero number of people (whom I won't point fingers at specifically) who like to turn those types of things into a competition I choose not to participate at all. Let's be honest, if someone doesn't like what I have to say and they can compare my plants disfavorably to their own, they'll use that as some kind of proof they're the better grower (again completely ignoring the inability of pictures to convey the qualities that actually matter most). And if my plants look much better they can always call into question whether they're really mine. Or I could turn around and do the same. It's a stupid, pointless competition with no meaning, no winners, and thus - in my opinion - "the only smart move is not to play" to quote an 80's film.


So if it makes you feel better to believe that because I don't take pictures and post them online means I have some nefarious reason for not doing so by all means go right ahead. I'm entirely confident that were that not the case you'd have some kind of back-up conspiracy theory for why I'm nefarious and you're righteous and everyone should believe in your opinions over mine.
 
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