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Tw3nti3ight

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Question, do you think the buds themselves require strong light? What part of the plant is creating carbohydrates from the carbon derived from co2?

Maybe you better watch urbangrower.com episode 35 again when he talks about lollipoping and removing the lower 'sucker' branches that aren't receiving a lot of light and blocking air flow. Vastly different than merely removing fan leaves to increase yield.
Yes I do remove sucker leaves and branches that wont produce much, that increases top yield as she then focuses on that area. I don't interfere with nature on top.
 

mindphuk

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Yes I do remove sucker leaves and branches that wont produce much, that increases top yield as she then focuses on that area. I don't interfere with nature on top.
thanks but my question was specifically for mmd604, you know the one that doesn't think a fan leaf is important during flowering.
 

mmd604

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Question, do you think the buds themselves require strong light? What part of the plant is creating carbohydrates from the carbon derived from co2?

Maybe you better watch urbangrower.com episode 35 again when he talks about lollipoping and removing the lower 'sucker' branches that aren't receiving a lot of light and blocking air flow. Vastly different than merely removing fan leaves to increase yield.
No the buds do not require strong light. This has turned into quiet this pissing contest. All tho i probably started it which i apologizes for lol. Im done arguing if you read early in the post i stated remove all fan leafs but leave the tops. I do what works for me. Looks like i gotta start a grow journal here to prove my worth. Be patient a big weekend coming up i have to move and set up my new project . Its gonna be sweet i u will see i spared no expense
 

mindphuk

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Im done arguing if you read early in the post i stated remove all fan leafs but leave the tops.
That to me sounds like you still take fan leaves near the top just leave alone the smaller bud leaves. But either way, why remove any fan leaves unless you need air circulation? It does no good and might do harm. If you really think you get a bigger yield, explain what mechanism you think the plant uses? Any rationale should be able to be backed up by known botanical facts. Not just because you started trying it and noticed a bigger yield because unless you have very good logs, you probably didn't take in all of the possible variables. The facts are that leaves are a storage of energy and carbohydrate building blocks. Removing them takes away the energy the plant can tap into during its last days of living and can use that energy more efficiently than the anything gained at the root.

I'm not in here to continue this argument with you either, so sorry for bringing it up. But this forum is to help people and make sure others reading these disagreements have enough information to research things and make their own, hopefully correct decision. I don't think anyone should take anyone's word here, no matter what their post count or claim how long they have been growing. It does tend to shake out the ones that consistently right will rise to the top.

I am merely curious what you think is happening inside the plant to increase your yield when you remove them.
 

mmd604

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I'm not in here to continue this argument with you either, so sorry for bringing it up. But this forum is to help people and make sure others reading these disagreements have enough information to research things and make their own, hopefully correct decision. I don't think anyone should take anyone's word here, no matter what their post count or claim how long they have been growing.
Once more i am done i will put money where my mouth is you will see i am not a noob like homebrewer seems to claim. p.s i have not seen a post count that high since overgrow !!! LOL jut kidding
 

homebrewer

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Once more i am done i will put money where my mouth is you will see i am not a noob like homebrewer seems to claim. p.s i have not seen a post count that high since overgrow !!! LOL jut kidding
For the record, I never called you a noob. I actually hate that word. Cheers to Overgrow though, now THAT was a site. Remember the shiz BOG was producing??? Organic soil blends, earth juice and botanicare products. He was the perfect example of how experience is above all others. Good God could that guy grow.
 

Cali chronic

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I use Big Bud and Bloom 10 bucks for a pound and a half I get it at Armstrong Nurse (by GH...I think) works great! Check it out. I also give a tbs or two in week 6&7 of Mono potassium silica sulfate=mpss That is 0 N and like a 55 P and 25 K I get my N this late from the Molasses I use at the end this allows her too clear the existing N in the leaves and plant while giving her a sweet carb boost for flavor and production.
I stop feeding @ 15 days before harvest and do the first 5 days of just H20 and Molasses along with a little like a 0 0 2 in the H20 I water heavey too like 10 gal the first water and then at least 5 gallons the next and on the final week just Flush product I get from SOWCAL nice stuff (vanilla) and R.O H20 and my stuff burns even stays lit and does not pop and in the vaporizer it is sweet and fresh like R.O H20 is compared to tap. I get about 4 zips a plant outta of a 5 gal bucket dried and cured BTW.
 

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Tw3nti3ight

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I use Big Bud and Bloom 10 bucks for a pound and a half I get it at Armstrong Nurse (by GH...I think) works great! Check it out. I also give a tbs or two in week 6&7 of Mono potassium silica sulfate=mpss That is 0 N and like a 55 P and 25 K I get my N this late from the Molasses I use at the end this allows her too clear the existing N in the leaves and plant while giving her a sweet carb boost for flavor and production.
I stop feeding @ 15 days before harvest and do the first 5 days of just H20 and Molasses along with a little like a 0 0 2 in the H20 I water heavey too like 10 gal the first water and then at least 5 gallons the next and on the final week just Flush product I get from SOWCAL nice stuff (vanilla) and R.O H20 and my stuff burns even stays lit and does not pop and in the vaporizer it is sweet and fresh like R.O H20 is compared to tap. I get about 4 zips a plant outta of a 5 gal bucket dried and cured BTW.
I am in soil as well, my last nycd, I stopped nutting 2 weeks before harvest and she totally lost her diesely smell, while trimming it was just a cut vegetation smell.....now momma is staying stinky and putting on size. Was looking at her center cola, very nice. I am going to keep her irrigated the whole way till harvest. Irrigated with nute soup.
 

Tw3nti3ight

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Once more i am done i will put money where my mouth is you will see i am not a noob like homebrewer seems to claim. p.s i have not seen a post count that high since overgrow !!! LOL jut kidding
It is I who called you a noob, made assumption because you have no plant biology 101knowledge.
 

Tw3nti3ight

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Let me realign this thread. I am not here to create enemies. I am merely trying to tweak my yield. I appreciate everyones input thus far. Please keep it coming. Mmd I apologize if I offended you.

I will keep posting pics of updates.
 

mmd604

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BushyOlderGrower? Really? Doesn't ring a bell?

funny that does kinda rings a bell but its been a like 5 years. Tw3nti3ight that would have fit in one post stop trying to up your post count!!! LOL just playing. I was gonna take horticulture in college but decided to become electrician.
 

Cali chronic

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Nute Soup yeah I gotta try that one of these days all the way till the end and then quick flush and done...The Smell goes from Fruit prior to harvest like a bucket of ripe Nectarines to Hops for Beer to Good Kush when done But needs to cure at least two weeks. I wonder if Nute to the end has an effect on curing?
 

Tw3nti3ight

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funny that does kinda rings a bell but its been a like 5 years. Tw3nti3ight that would have fit in one post stop trying to up your post count!!! LOL just playing. I was gonna take horticulture in college but decided to become electrician.
:) all good no worries. I just remember my biology days.
 

Tw3nti3ight

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Nute Soup yeah I gotta try that one of these days all the way till the end and then quick flush and done...The Smell goes from Fruit prior to harvest like a bucket of ripe Nectarines to Hops for Beer to Good Kush when done But needs to cure at least two weeks. I wonder if Nute to the end has an effect on curing?
Well what about outdoor Cali grown? Do they flush a plant in the ground?.....hydro is different although I am not experienced in that department....

Yes her aroma is changing from fruity to more earthy.....but her smoke is too smooth, not hitter quality, hit it then quit it is what I want. You know there is thc in it. It has weight. The dank I smoke now is so fluffy and the smoke is so, u know you have some good weed. It has a distinct flavor type.
 

mmd604

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hmm maybe heat stress. I always looked to the tips for nute burn but if there pepper the fans leaves ???. What about mites it is mite season.
 

Tw3nti3ight

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Not heat stress, room is cool as hell have it vented with my central air, summer it runs daily and keeps it cool....mites....i am indoor...i see little gnats every now and then, but not tons. All other plants are fine but her, it is nutes, i am thinking potassium, since my water is brined with potassium chloride, plus the nute boost being a 40 on the K.....
 
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