My messages to you are short and sweet because while you may be a better/more experience grower than me, your bad at debate. You get mad and emotional too quickly. There's really no point in arguing with a person like you because your set in your ways ( which theres nothing wrong with ) but rather than respecting someone elses opinion no matter how wrong you think it is, you shit on them and resort to name calling and dumb shit. That is what I mean by "bubble". A mental "bubble".
A harvest is the sum of all parts, big or small. When all my 'small' parts consistently yield between 16.5-20.5 ounces from each of my 600s, you can't complain. Fact of the matter is, AN will never out perform a grower who is using a complete nute line and has experience on their side. To that, no grower worth his salt would ever throw their money away on those products either.whats with the tiny buds..doesnt look like botanicare and gh is performing for you very well......AN baby....
but a grower with experience on their side who knows a quality product can produce awesome results....not just a few big buds on some stretched out plants.A harvest is the sum of all parts, big or small. When all my 'small' parts consistently yield between 16.5-20.5 ounces from each of my 600s, you can't complain. Fact of the matter is, AN will never out perform a grower who is using a complete nute line and has experience on their side. To that, no grower worth his salt would ever throw their money away on those products either.
Those 'few big buds' yielded 571 grams from a 600hps
. We can go back and fourth all day if you'd like. AN didn't invent the 17 essential elements that plants need but it looks like they certainly do a good job convincing people that they need to spend double on nutes to get the same results 
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im still trying to figure out how im spending double if those were grown by GH nutes which are just as much if not more expensive than AN. my sensi AandB cost me $26.00 compared to floranova which is $28.00 or the floralicious which is $30 for the single quart. or i can pick up the 3 pack which is pushing $40.00. So please enlighten me as to how im paying soooooo much moreThose 'few big buds' yielded 571 grams from a 600hps
Well, which products are you using? Just the A & B? No additives?
you still havent answered the question. how is advanced more than the others?
Other than their 'connoisseur' base nutes, their 2 and 3 part lines are comparably priced to other companies. I asked if you were using any additives because THAT is where they're making their money. So now you haven't answered my question; which additives are you using?
thats all i needed to hear....
AN's base nutes are 'comparably' priced but still 10-20% MORE expensive. For some of us, that's hundreds of dollars a month. And that's not even talking about the snake oil additives which you seem to be ashamed to admit that you use. It's ok, you posted on another thread what additives you use. I won't bust your chops on what a waste those are though because if you can't determine that from the labels, then you deserve to throw away your money.
Its true. Ive already looked it up for anyone who care to see them for themselves:
Your right, that report was troubling.SourD- you're right. Funny how no one had a response to that link you posted from the Oregon Department of Agriculture showing that AN is not only ripping people off on price, but ingredients too.
http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/docs/..._0630.pdf?ga=t
Thanks I had no idea those were amino acids. A lot of people use new techniques and additives work like amino acids, fulvic and humic acid, surfactant, silicon, carbohydrates, b vitamins and others. It just seems that AN was doing it first.
Yeah that stuff does work but advanced are not the first people to use it. They are just the first people to put it into some new bottles, give it a fancy misleading name, provide a misleading product explanation, then make lots of money off of nothing. Don't get me wrong it's a smart idea and it is definitely working for them and they are not the only ones. House and Garden Van De Zwaan nutes do the exact same thing.
