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PJ Diaz

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Why are you spending time here? You told us about this California forum where all 30,000 of your posts are read, re-read, liked and cited whenever there is any doubt on the subject. Instead you come here, where you have made yourself into an ass so many times that even your posts sound like farts. The last time you were here, you called independent contractors scum. Now, you are denying the very words you wrote. You tried the same trick on me and so I hung your shitty comment about immigrants in my signature lines because I don't like being lied to.

So, deny again that you said "Race does matter when it comes to immigrants. Only 4% of immigrants are white. To turn a blind eye to that fact only serves to make you color blind." Give us all a good laugh. Again. Your post is available to everybody that you are trying to gaslight.

I really, really don't like being lied to, by the way.
I have no idea what this California forum you are talking about is. Never said anything of the sort. Your posting that quote, which was later corrected and explained, in your signature shows that you are also interested in disinformation and not interested in truth. You too have chosen to take statements out of context in a clear and blatant attempt to cause division instead of working towards understanding and unity.
 

PJ Diaz

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He actually thinks something of himself because he has some books. I love to see his lily white candy ass go into a neighborhood by 8 Mile and John R in Detroit and tell those folks he's not racist, because he reads books about it lol
White people are a minority where I live, fyi. I live in a predominantly Latino community.
 

PJ Diaz

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LOL, you're really that fucking stupid that you have a shelf of books to learn how to not be racist. As if you can't just treat someone respectfully on your own, you needed some bullshit books to show you how. GTFOH, you retarded fool.
I read books to look at things from other perspectives. You should try it.
 

PJ Diaz

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You are a goddamn idiot, just because there are more white truck drivers, does not mean it's a discriminatory occupation against black and brown people.

It just means more white people drive truck, that's it. There is no special line at the secretary of state office for white guys and only white guys to get a CDL.

I can't believe how fucking stupid you are, by your logic, NBA is racist and discriminatory against white people simply because there is majority black guys that play

Now STFU already!
It may not be intentionally discriminatory, but yes they are discriminated against. If you study the subtle nuances of inequality, you might open your perspective a bit.
 

Fogdog

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I have no idea what this California forum you are talking about is. Never said anything of the sort. Your posting that quote, which was later corrected and explained, in your signature shows that you are also interested in disinformation and not interested in truth. You too have chosen to take statements out of context in a clear and blatant attempt to cause division instead of working towards understanding and unity.
You are a fucking liar.

LOL, "you directly quoted me out of context"

You never explained or corrected yourself. Just gaslighting like a troll.
 
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Budley Doright

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No, that is not what I meant to convey. Again, context is important. Because Buck's disinformation seems to work, I will attempt to clarify again..

You yourself made a statement about driving transport, by saying "Driving transport is a career path that lots of immigrants have followed here. It only discriminates against sleep apnea lol." I then posted a chart showing that over 70% of transport drivers are white, which is evidence that the industry does indeed does indeed discriminate towards immigrants, which is further evidenced by the fact that only 17% of immigrants are white, a statement which I only posted after being challenged by a different poster as to the where the majority of immigrants originate from:



If you follow the simple logic above, instead of trying to twist my words into something they are not, you should see that I only addressed the facts at hand, but did not imply any bias, or negative feelings towards immigrants. Any such sentiment has been projected upon me by trolls who are attempting to discredit my statements through a disinformation campaign.

I find it quite ironic that some people who post to this thread proclaim to be anti-Trump and anti-Russian disinformation, use the exact same tactics in attempts to embolden their personal agendas.
I find it quite ironic that you would bring colour into a discussion about immigrants driving truck. Then you use a false number to prove your point. I believe you meant to convey exactly what I think your saying and that is that you are scared of immigrants of colour taking away your “successful life”.
 

PJ Diaz

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I find it quite ironic that you would bring colour into a discussion about immigrants driving truck. Then you use a false number to prove your point. I believe you meant to convey exactly what I think your saying and that is that you are scared of immigrants of colour taking away your “successful life”.
The big flaw in your logic there is that I'm married to a person of color who is also an immigrant.
 

blu3bird

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It may not be intentionally discriminatory, but yes they are discriminated against. If you study the subtle nuances of inequality, you might open your perspective a bit.
Ok then, go to the secretary of state office when you need to renew your license and whisper to the clerk, hey I know you don't like black and brown folks sitting in the driver seat of semis, so let me get one of those CDL's since I'm white. Report back to us how that works out for you

For someone that thinks they're so smart, you show an incredible amount of ignorance

You should study the subtle nuances of retardation and then look in the mirror
 

hanimmal

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I'm not that stupid that I need to read a book on how to not be racist.

You're a retard if you think reading some book about anti-racism somehow makes you ant-racist
Ive known a lot of white people and Mexicans that could use some books on it.

I found this pretty interesting since I had to fill out some forms and saw that all of the race descriptions for Hispanics were changed on it:

To try to capture more accurate data in 2020, the Census Bureau has recommended combining the two questions into one, with "Hispanic or Latino" as an option for both race and ethnicity on the next census.

But that proposal has raised a question about Hispanic people who in the past have checked off "white" for their race: Will they keep doing so if "Hispanic" is categorized as both a race and an ethnicity?

The Census Bureau has researched how combining the Hispanic origin and race questions could affect responses. Its findings suggest that a combined question could decrease the white count in 2020.

"That would fuel some of the anxieties that are behind the white supremacist movement," says Morning, who advises the Census Bureau on race and ethnicity issues and supports changing the federal standards to allow a combined question.

She adds that any change in the size of the white population resulting from a combined question could signal shifting identities among some Latinos.




@PJ Diaz, seriously man, I think the trap you fell into was missing this thread from a while back: https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-politics-of-truck-drivers-urinating-in-public.984249/post-14931283

It would seem that the standard percentages of immigrants do not apply to the Trucking world. I would guess it is because most people willing to front a immigrant all the upfront costs, might have a reason to not pick people who are less likely to blend in with the locals.
 

Budley Doright

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Ive known a lot of white people and Mexicans that could use some books on it.

I found this pretty interesting since I had to fill out some forms and saw that all of the race descriptions for Hispanics were changed on it:

To try to capture more accurate data in 2020, the Census Bureau has recommended combining the two questions into one, with "Hispanic or Latino" as an option for both race and ethnicity on the next census.
But that proposal has raised a question about Hispanic people who in the past have checked off "white" for their race: Will they keep doing so if "Hispanic" is categorized as both a race and an ethnicity?
The Census Bureau has researched how combining the Hispanic origin and race questions could affect responses. Its findings suggest that a combined question could decrease the white count in 2020.
"That would fuel some of the anxieties that are behind the white supremacist movement," says Morning, who advises the Census Bureau on race and ethnicity issues and supports changing the federal standards to allow a combined question.
She adds that any change in the size of the white population resulting from a combined question could signal shifting identities among some Latinos.




@PJ Diaz, seriously man, I think the trap you fell into was missing this thread from a while back: https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-politics-of-truck-drivers-urinating-in-public.984249/post-14931283

It would seem that the standard percentages of immigrants do not apply to the Trucking world. I would guess it is because most people willing to front a immigrant all the upfront costs, might have a reason to not pick people who are less likely to blend in with the locals.
He didn’t fall into any trap. He stated exactly what he meant to, and that was you are being overrun by people of colour. The unfortunate part was I was talking about “here” which is, as everyone with half a brain knows, I’m Canadian. Race was not even part of the conversation until he brought it up. And “here” it is one of the fastest growing industries for immigrants. 33% of drivers are immigrants compared to just 13% 3 years ago. Most companies everywhere (states included) are actually increasing their recruiting efforts to include immigrants to mitigate the shortfall of drivers that is looming large in the near future. Diaz is a racist and I don’t give a shit if he’s married to a purple Zucchini, that changes/proves nothing.
 

hanimmal

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He didn’t fall into any trap. He stated exactly what he meant to, and that was you are being overrun by people of colour. The unfortunate part was I was talking about “here” which is, as everyone with half a brain knows, I’m Canadian. Race was not even part of the conversation until he brought it up. And “here” it is one of the fastest growing industries for immigrants. 33% of drivers are immigrants compared to just 13% 3 years ago. Most companies everywhere (states included) are actually increasing their recruiting efforts to include immigrants to mitigate the shortfall of drivers that is looming large in the near future. Diaz is a racist and I don’t give a shit if he’s married to a purple Zucchini, that changes/proves nothing.
I meant a overall trap (not one set here) of thinking immigration means race. People right now are programmed to hate the brown people seeking a better life here. Your point is taken about this thread, I was just tossing the guy a lifeline to understand the racist propaganda that he seems to have been buying into.
 

Budley Doright

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I meant a overall trap (not one set here) of thinking immigration means race. People right now are programmed to hate the brown people seeking a better life here. Your point is taken about this thread, I was just tossing the guy a lifeline to understand the racist propaganda that he seems to have been buying into.
Yes I get it, throwing a lifeline to people that deserve it is a noble thing. It’s easy to get caught up in the animosity here. This guy does not deserve it. He disparages everyone that he interacts with. And then says he’s being taken out of context or not understood. He deserves exactly what he is getting.........carry on lol. There seems to be a lot of pretend liberals here but they are quickly weeded (hehehe) out as to their true racist leanings. They know that a mainstream righteous society detests them so they try and hide, but not very well.
 

hanimmal

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Yes I get it, throwing a lifeline to people that deserve it is a noble thing. It’s easy to get caught up in the animosity here. This guy does not deserve it. He disparages everyone that he interacts with. And then says he’s being taken out of context or not understood. He deserves exactly what he is getting.........carry on lol. There seems to be a lot of pretend liberals here but they are quickly weeded (hehehe) out as to their true racist leanings. They know that a mainstream righteous society detests them so they try and hide, but not very well.
I would agree and give up if this was 2013 when I did just that being over trying to talk to people on here about the things they feel are ok to say. But it is 2019 and I now know that at the very least we have been under attack by at least the Russian military for 5 years.

I have seen my family take on the same language/conspiracies that online trolls were pushing and shook it off as they were just having fun being assholes. I then saw everybody turn on each other in 2016 at the same time Trump got elected.

I started posting again to understand it and to do my part to help out people that don't understand why they think the world is so scary when in reality we are mostly doing ok, because they are being manipulated into thinking only about the worst parts of humanity that affect them the most.
 

Fogdog

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I would agree and give up if this was 2013 when I did just that being over trying to talk to people on here about the things they feel are ok to say. But it is 2019 and I now know that at the very least we have been under attack by at least the Russian military for 5 years.

I have seen my family take on the same language/conspiracies that online trolls were pushing and shook it off as they were just having fun being assholes. I then saw everybody turn on each other in 2016 at the same time Trump got elected.

I started posting again to understand it and to do my part to help out people that don't understand why they think the world is so scary when in reality we are mostly doing ok, because they are being manipulated into thinking only about the worst parts of humanity that affect them the most.
I think he's just a cynical nazi troll asshole playing people.
 

hanimmal

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I think he's just a cynical nazi troll asshole playing people.
Either way, if they are there my be someone who is thinking that what he is saying makes some sense and thinks if they ask a question they will get roasted (which they will lol). But a lot of people just have been in such a bubble their entire lives they don't really understand what they got passed down to them was some pretty racist shit. To them it is just logical, but they don't really it is because the racist that push that propaganda are cherry picking facts to sell them their agenda.

And even more important maybe is to wait the racists pushing the racist and evangelical agenda to wake up that they are being used by Russians to hurt the country that they live in, worse than any poor brown people ever could.
 

Budley Doright

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I would agree and give up if this was 2013 when I did just that being over trying to talk to people on here about the things they feel are ok to say. But it is 2019 and I now know that at the very least we have been under attack by at least the Russian military for 5 years.

I have seen my family take on the same language/conspiracies that online trolls were pushing and shook it off as they were just having fun being assholes. I then saw everybody turn on each other in 2016 at the same time Trump got elected.

I started posting again to understand it and to do my part to help out people that don't understand why they think the world is so scary when in reality we are mostly doing ok, because they are being manipulated into thinking only about the worst parts of humanity that affect them the most.
I’m not sure why I’m here, bored I guess lol, it’s gotten pretty fucking cold here so I’m hunkered down till I head south, great way to waste away the grey days of winter hell. It’s also quite entertaining to watch the defence of the indefensible and then the crying after their ridiculed. It’s gratifying to expose the lies some try and perpetuate to again defend the idiots/criminals they worship.
PS I do enjoy the debate and conversation that does happen here on occasion and most threads start that way, but some quickly devolve into humorous untruths.
 
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Fogdog

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Either way, if they are there my be someone who is thinking that what he is saying makes some sense and thinks if they ask a question they will get roasted (which they will lol). But a lot of people just have been in such a bubble their entire lives they don't really understand what they got passed down to them was some pretty racist shit. To them it is just logical, but they don't really it is because the racist that push that propaganda are cherry picking facts to sell them their agenda.

And even more important maybe is to wait the racists pushing the racist and evangelical agenda to wake up that they are being used by Russians to hurt the country that they live in, worse than any poor brown people ever could.
I get the need to put down propaganda lies whenever they are published. Its not all Russian, although there is quite a bit of that. Republicans have been pushing their own propaganda hard for a couple of decades.
 
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