A tax analogy, who's really paying their fair share?

beenthere said:

BUSTED!

You told us all you would produce a tax return, you knew it would only prove you wrong so you tried to slide by by posting a pic of a pay stub, you're a liar and got caught, just like your butt buddy, Obama.

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if i look back, i bet that i will see that i never made any claims about "marginal" or "effective" tax rates. as i recall, you brought that up after the fact. i believe my original claim was simply about paying 22% or 25%.

if i look back, what do you think i will see?

will i see my erection? will you see my erection? do you want to see my erection?

see4 said:

This coming from a guy who shows us nothing and provides nothing of value, and only tries to create drama from others. You never look at yourself, you only reflect. You provide no valuable information to anyone. You are on a pot forum and have never provided valuable growing advice.

What exactly are you after here? Besides what you think is the truth?

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You keep talking out of your ass, see4.

Lets clear thing up right now, Buckie said he pays a higher effective tax rate than Romney's 13%

Bucky grossed 28k, so I'll ask you, did Bucky pay a higher effective tax rate than Romney, yes or no?

BTW, look me up in the vertical growing and advanced marijuana cultivation before you start throwing out more BS accusations.

beenthere said:

Speaking of stupid!
I believe you owe an apology.

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I suppose I could apologize for my harshness. But I did not explicitly state you are too stupid, I implied that you are either one or the other. So if you are being difficult, then ok, I apologize, if not, then well, youre too stupid and you will forget this conversation every happened.

UncleBuck said:

i hang lights for a living as well.

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not like this you don't plus I don't hang lights anymore, I draw the CADs indicating where they are hung.

beenthere said:

You keep talking out of your ass, see4.

Lets clear thing up right now, Buckie said he pays a higher effective tax rate than Romney's 13%

Bucky grossed 28k, so I'll ask you, did Bucky pay a higher effective tax rate than Romney, yes or no?

BTW, look me up in the vertical growing and advanced marijuana cultivation before you start throwing out more BS accusations.

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You are right, I should not have said you don't provide any advice. I haven't looked hard enough.

So based on his pay stub, he pays a much higher effective tax rate than Romney. Furthermore, based on his own admission he has been taxed at 25%. What proof do you have that he has not?

echelon1k1 said:

not like this you don't plus I don't hang lights anymore, I draw the CADs indicating where they are hung.

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Could you CAD a good wheel? Say like a 24"?

beenthere said:

BTW, look me up in the vertical growing and advanced marijuana cultivation before you start throwing out more BS accusations.

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the pic (which i believe you took from the internet) of your vertical grow room looks completely different from the pic of the growing bud (which i believe you took from the internet) judging on background.

the apparent differences between the two pics leads me to believe they are lifted from the internet, and you are lying.

this would not surprise me. you lie A LOT. it is habitual and pathological with you.

so we're gonna need some proof pics.

see4 said:

Could you CAD a good wheel? Say like a 24"?

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I suppose, but you don't want to pay $3K for a piece of paper....

UncleBuck said:

if i look back, i bet that i will see that i never made any claims about "marginal" or "effective" tax rates. as i recall, you brought that up after the fact. i believe my original claim was simply about paying 22% or 25%.

if i look back, what do you think i will see?

will i see my erection? will you see my erection? do you want to see my erection?

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You already played that card my friend, I made it clear we were talking about "effective" tax rates and you continued with your BS.
You were the one that claimed to pay more than Romney's 11-13% and you also knew that rate was his effective rate.
Fact is, you can't stand you were proved wrong and everyone knows it,
I'd call that being a little punk, or being PUNKED!

echelon1k1 said:

not like this you don't plus I don't hang lights anymore, I draw the CADs indicating where they are hung.

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i work with all aspects of lighting, from the bulb/lamp all the way to the electric box.

we do the same work, really. nothing different but the ladder.

UncleBuck said:

the pic (which i believe you took from the internet) of your vertical grow room looks completely different from the pic of the growing bud (which i believe you took from the internet) judging on background.

the apparent differences between the two pics leads me to believe they are lifted from the internet, and you are lying.

this would not surprise me. you lie A LOT. it is habitual and pathological with you.

so we're gonna need some proof pics.

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very good point. very good point indeed.

if he shows us a current picture of his plants with something on paper in the picture saying Hi Buck and See4. we can then see what he is actually growing, if anything at all.

beenthere said:

You already played that card my friend, I made it clear we were talking about "effective" tax rates and you continued with your BS.
You were the one that claimed to pay more than Romney's 11-13% and you also knew that rate was his effective rate.
Fact is, you can't stand the fact you were proved wrong and everyone knows it,
I'd call that being a little punk, or being PUNKED!

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i'll take a look back at the thread, nigga.

i'm just enjoying that you are so worked up tonight. it gives me an erection, an i like having erections.

your anger nourishes me.

echelon1k1 said:

I suppose, but you don't want to pay $3K for a piece of paper....

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I plan on buying a CNC machine in the not too distant future.

see4 said:

very good point. very good point indeed.

if he shows us a current picture of his plants with something on paper in the picture saying Hi Buck and See4. we can then see what he is actually growing, if anything at all.

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not only that, his pictures were differently sized before. and as i already noted, completely different background between the two pics, even though one was his empty growroom and the other was a growing plant.

he just lies too much for me to believe him. i'll even take etchy on his word about a grow pic, and have nothing negative to say about the bud itself, just the trim job. etchy only really distorts and imagines stuff. beenthere just tells lie after lie though.

it's sad, but it does give me an erection.

see4 said:

I plan on buying a CNC machine in the not too distant future.

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make sure you've got a good CAD program and a lecko that knows his shit when it comes to PLC.

see4 said:

You are right, I should not have said you don't provide any advice. I haven't looked hard enough.

So based on his pay stub, he pays a much higher effective tax rate than Romney. Furthermore, based on his own admission he has been taxed at 25%. What proof do you have that he has not?

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See4, this is what you and UncleBuck can't understand or refuse to admit, you DON"T and CAN"T get an effective rate from a pay stub, period.

All this anger and name calling you directed at me, was from your own ignorance on the subject.

beenthere said:

See4, this is what you and UncleBuck can't understand or refuse to admit, you DON"T and CAN"T get an effective rate from a pay stub, period.

All this anger and name calling you directed at me, was from your own ignorance on the subject.

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Ok, let's take this argument, what you just said, at face value. How can you derive from what he has stated and his paystub that he does not pay 25% tax? Show me the proof. Do it. I dare you.

I'm not angry, not in the slightest, the name calling stems from you. "It's not me, it's you"

beenthere said:

See4, this is what you and UncleBuck can't understand or refuse to admit, you DON"T and CAN"T get an effective rate from a pay stub, period.

All this anger and name calling you directed at me, was from your own ignorance on the subject.

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i'll look back, but i bet i claimed my effective tax rate to be around 22% overall.

25% was the marginal rate i was paying on income above $30-$35k or so.

do you not understand this, ferry?

echelon1k1 said:

make sure you've got a good CAD program and a lecko that knows his shit when it comes to PLC.

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I have AutoCAD, but I was thinking about getting either Bryce or Houdini. I have no friggin clue what a lecko is or what PLC is.

see4 said:

I have AutoCAD, but I was thinking about getting either Bryce or Houdini. I have no friggin clue what a lecko is or what PLC is.

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Yeah everyone uses AutoCad, great program. We use it for sunrooms.