A Guide To Colloidal Silver

Discussion in 'Breeders Paradise' started by EverythingsHazy, Mar 27, 2015.

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    Poontanger

    Poontanger Well-Known Member

    Thankyou Flower-gurl, what color was your CS when it was finished, & did U check the PPM's ?

    Don't suppose you know how many amps the charger was pushing out ??, as ive read the the lower the amps , the longer it takes , but the silver particles are finer & make a better quality CS
     
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    flower-gurl

    flower-gurl New Member

    Happy to help! My CS was almost clear, with a very, very slight grayish tint. I don't have a tester, so don't know the PPM of the finished product.

    The specs of the phone charger I used are 5VDC and 260mA: My knowledge of electrical things is limited to "don't touch" - sorry I can't help more than that. You can check the photo in my previous post - I tried to get a shot of the charger adapter's specs for you.
     
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    lovemfrosty

    lovemfrosty Member

    Thank you so much for writing this guide Hazy! Sorry for all the text but I blame you for showing me this was easy to make at home :weed:

    I just made a jar of CS for some clones I just cut so I'm a few+ weeks out from testing it.

    I wanted to add that most people have access to .999 fine silver locally that they can pick up same day, look for a store near you that sells silver bullion (they're everywhere) and you'll have all ever need and at cost, no eBay/amazon markup/waiting/watered down product. Also no paperwork & cash, satisfy that paranoia.

    After I found this thread I started digging around for more info on the topic of CS generation and I found this journal research article which suggests that you can control particle size of the silver colloids by using specific wavelengths of light. The shorter wavelength end for smaller colloids.

    More specifically, the size/conversion of the silver colloid appears to be controlled by some formula of the number of silver ions detaching from the anode (which is a function of lots of other things) and the amount/wavelength of photons available to collide with those ions to neutralize them, making them silver colloids. Journal article and quote below but clearly for the purposes of turning a plant we don't need to be so exact.

    I'm wondering what kind of light everyone has made their CS under?

    What I used

    - 2x 1oz .999 bullion pieces. [​IMG]

    - [email protected] USB wall transformer, the actual output of the transformer will vary based on the load, in this case the resistance of the water to the flow of current. The conductive properties of the water will change over time but the closer the electrodes the better the conduction (but its water so its a poor conductor), in short (that wasn't sort), I have no idea what my actual current usage was but it never exceeded 1 Amp (1000mA).

    - Veg tent & light (LED with moderate par rating)

    - 1qt mason jar 90% full or so of distilled water (0 ppm measured).

    I had the silver pieces half submerged, broad sides facing, about a quarter inch to a half inch apart and under the veg spectrum of my light in my veg tent. While I don't know the exact photon wavelengths emitting from the veg band, the lower half of the light's range appears to be about 370nm - 500nm.

    I checked and cleaned off the electrodes every 2.5 hrs with a paper towel and rinsed them after cleaning with fresh distilled water to remove any paper towel particulate that might contaminate the CS solution.

    Results
    I saw roughly a 1ppm/hr rise with the tds meter (I know, I don't know what to tell you) and passed the laser test after a couple hours.
    It wasn't until I saw a greater than 10ppm reading that my solution was noticeably yellowish.
    I brought the solution to 20ppm and its only slightly yellow.

    The journal article mentioned
    Is attached as pdf, I can't link until I post more, sorry.

    Excerpt from page 3
     

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    Poontanger

    Poontanger Well-Known Member

    Lovemfrosty, your saying , that , the 2 eligator clips, connected to the silver bullion, were not in anyway touching the water , only abot 2/3 , of the bullion was ??

    & im confused (not hard) about the lighting , are you saying, if you make the CS under a constant light source , ie , no dark hours , it does a better job , or the CS stays clearer, & is quicker ??
     
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    lovemfrosty

    lovemfrosty Member

    Yes, only the silver touches the water.
    Submerged half way or 2/3 should be roughly the same, mine was about half.

    I'm saying this article says you can control the silver colloid size by using specific portions of the light spectrum. Using a lower spectrum of light to make finer particles.

    I don't know for a fact if using a specific and limited band of light had any impact, I posted this to see what everyone else here thought and what kind of light their CS was made under/exposed to.

    But according to this article and a couple other sources I went through, electrolysis (that is your two silver pieces running current through the water) only ever produces ionic silver (which is not the same as colloidal silver). It's either the photonic or electrochemical after affects that turn the ionic silver into neutral colloids.

    You'll see in lots of videos or how-to articles on making CS for human consumption (I'm only dealing with plants) that they usually add a 'detergent' after the electrolysis to convert the solution to true colloidal silver (but now it has that detergent in it too, I ain't drinking that! and your plants probably don't want it either).

    However, if you have a sufficient amount of photons in the Blue through UV portion of the light spectrum flying around the room, crashing into these silver ions, they will break the ionic silver chunks into smaller silver colloids (which is done chemically in the detergent example).
     
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    Poontanger

    Poontanger Well-Known Member

    how long will CS last if stored in glass & kept away from light & exsesive heat, does a higher PPM last longer & how strong , ie ppm's is to strong for the job, as ive read were a dude made his to 10-12 ppm's & made sacks no probs but no pollen , on the other hand sum say CS @ 30 ppm's , just burns the plants, & almost kills them
     
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    Rob Roy

    Rob Roy Well-Known Member


    Below is an excerpt from an article by Jonathan Glauser. concerning his claims of shelf life. Your mileage may vary.

    What is the shelf life of colloidal silver?

    How long will colloidal silver last if stored properly? What is the best way to store it? The shelf life of colloidal silver has been proven to last over 10 years when stored correctly! This is dependent on meeting the proper storage conditions. Mountain Well-Being Colloidal Silver comes with a guaranteed shelf life of three years.

    What are the proper conditions to maximize shelf life of colloidal silver?
    It’s simple, to correctly store colloidal silver to last as long as you need, there are three key factors to keep in mind.

    1. Store colloidal silver at room temperature. Extreme temperatures can shorten the shelf life.
    2. Keep colloidal silver out of direct light and store it in amber or cobalt colored glass containers. Plastic containers will definitely shorten the shelf life.
    3. Keep colloidal silver away from strong electromagnetic frequencies, such as appliances or computers. Each silver ion and particle have an electric charge that keeps them colloidal (or suspended) in the liquid. They can lose their charge more quickly when exposed to strong electromagnetic fields.
     
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    Poontanger

    Poontanger Well-Known Member

    Thankyou Roy
     
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