9/7 repub debate thread

[BendBrewer]

Ron Paul wouldn't do any of these things as President and hence why nobody actually fears him. He couldn't. He does not have the support in Congress to get any of his more radical ideas passed into law no matter how much you agree with them. He just doesn't. Now be happy and get over it.

 

[deprave]

thats because It is beside the point, you believe in some crazy conspiracy theory that Ron Paul will cause a crisis.....sorry Ron Paul will not create a doomsday scenario its absolutely ridiculous.

 

[deprave]

Ron Paul wouldn't do any of these things as President and hence why nobody actually fears him. He couldn't. He does not have the support in Congress to get any of his more radical ideas passed into law no matter how much you agree with them. He just doesn't. Now be happy and get over it.

he doesn't have support in congress? is that why his audit the fed bill they were unanimously in favor of it?

 

[UncleBuck]

Ron Paul wouldn't get rid of the minimum wage before getting rid of the irs, a return to the gold standard, and a true free market...

so in other words, he wouldn't get rid of min wage because he will be absolutely incapable of getting rid of the irs or implementing the pipe dream that is the gold standard.

in other words, we'd elect him to sit there and doodle turtles in the oval office all day. maybe speak into the back of a fan and pretend like he is in star wars.

 

[UncleBuck]

thats because It is beside the point, you believe in some crazy conspiracy theory that Ron Paul will cause a crisis.....sorry Ron Paul will not create a doomsday scenario its absolutely ridiculous.

ron paul says it himself. he wouldn't have tried to prop up the economy, he would have let it crash and trusted the magic of the free market to make it all better.

if you think things are bad now, be thankful that we don't have old codgers like ron paul making decisions.

 

[BendBrewer]

Pretty much. Look how much trouble Obama has implementing his policies and he has a Party in DC that supports him. President Paul would not. So how is he going to pass his ideas into law? He can't. It's pretty simple.

 

[deprave]

so in other words, he wouldn't get rid of min wage because he will be absolutely incapable of getting rid of the irs or implementing the pipe dream that is the gold standard.

in other words, we'd elect him to sit there and doodle turtles in the oval office all day. maybe speak into the back of a fan and pretend like he is in star wars.

I will refer you to ronpaul2012.com for some of them plans, or listen to Ron Paul yourself...he has a lot more to do and say then the other canidates...Mitt Romney doesn't even know how much his plan of '56' SUPER AWESOME PLANS IN FULL TECHNA-COLOR cost .. One such great plan is for every regulation added we must subtract a regulation...you see its all rocket math science mitt romneys plan, to do 56 things that have been suggested before and done before, its truly revolutionary...Corporations are people too...Walmart is our friend guys...we can all work there it will be the JOB MACHINE JUST LOOK AT CHINA...

 

[UncleBuck]

I will refer you to ronpaul2012.com for some of them plans, or listen to Ron Paul yourself...he has a lot more to do and say then the other canidates...Mitt Romney doesn't even know how much his plan of '56' SUPER AWESOME PLANS IN FULL TECHNA-COLOR cost .. One such great plan is for every regulation added we must subtract a regulation...you see its all rocket math science mitt romneys plan, to do 56 things that have been suggested before and done before, its truly revolutionary...Corporations are people too...Walmart is our friend guys...we can all work there it will be the JOB MACHINE

that's the spirit.

once pointed out that the man with no chance of getting elected would be utterly unable to implement his plans if (in some bizarro world) he were to get elected, just attack romney.

i barely even noticed.

 

[deprave]

Romneys plans are the plans that will change nothing...Ron Paul's philosophy is the only thing that can give us any notable change..so again...beside the point..even if you had a descent argument its still not the point.

 

[deprave]

So stopping Obamacare do you believe that is our number one priority for jobs? Do you even draw that connection somehow? Apparently everyone but Ron Paul thinks that of the GOP canidates....They also all think that we need a fence and guns at the borders while Ron Paul thinks we need to stop the drug war and then we wont have the problems at the border.

 

[BendBrewer]

What part don't people like about making individuals responsible for their own HC coverage?

I can't get an answer to that one.

 

[tomahawk2406]

Romneys plans are the plans that will change nothing...Ron Paul's philosophy is the only thing that can give us any notable change..so again...beside the point..even if you had a descent argument its still not the point.

change is the most loosely used word in american politics.

 

[UncleBuck]

What part don't people like about making individuals responsible for their own HC coverage?

I can't get an answer to that one.

me neither. oddly, when people call it socialistic, i ask them how long the heritage foundation and republicans have believed in socialism. i never get an answer.

the answer though, as to what part don't people like, is that obama proposed it and the people who pull their puppet strings tell them "obama bad!"

 

[deprave]

well the fear would be mandatory government health care would be probably be classified as fascist actually not socialist.......but thats not what it is, not even close, maybe in some extreme fantasy that would be the threat...but yea its not actually mandatory health care anyway...its going a bit overboard..the truth is Ron Paul doesn't want any mandates whatsoever, he supports freedom and equal treatment for all..so No he doesn't support the parts of it that have mandates but to say obamacare is related to jobs like the other candidates are saying lol I don't get that, I can't believe they droned on for so long about obamacare, fucking cold blooded sellouts.

 

[deprave]

aside from talking about fantasy scenarios were obamacare was some kind of socialist system or something.....it might make sense to talk about obamacare if it actually changed much but the only thing that happened was a few more people got Medicaid and some backroom deals like the corn-husker kickback..so If obamacare actually changed something I would say it would be relevant discussion but really its neither here nor there, there is much more pressing issues...some more people got Medicaid for like a trillion dollars, better then no medicaid I guess

 

[deprave]

so obama care happened, a few more people got medicaid? good on them? but so what? whats next?

[video=youtube;JLdZxDjFsYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdZxDjFsYI[/video]

 

[londonfog]

he doesn't have support in congress? is that why his audit the fed bill they were unanimously in favor of it?

that was not even a full audit...they said no to a full audit and gave him a partial audit of what would be looked at...and what good is a audit if you don't look at everything

 

[budlover13]

that was not even a full audit...they said no to a full audit and gave him a partial audit of what would be looked at

But he was still at least somewhat supported.

 

[londonfog]

But he was still at least somewhat supported.

again what good is a audit if you are not looking at everything...they did that to shut him up...and it worked

 

[BendBrewer]

aside from talking about fantasy scenarios were obamacare was some kind of socialist system or something.....it might make sense to talk about obamacare if it actually changed much but the only thing that happened was a few more people got Medicaid and some backroom deals like the corn-husker kickback..so If obamacare actually changed something I would say it would be relevant discussion but really its neither here nor there, there is much more pressing issues...some more people got Medicaid for like a trillion dollars, better then no medicaid I guess

My employer got a tax cut from it. Why do you hate tax cuts for small businesses?

You know what I would pass as HCR if I was President? It would be a one page bill and would solve a lot of problems with the system.

"If you don't have HC insurance or a stack of cash, don't go to the hospital if sick or injured. They can now deny you any treatment if you don't have insurance or cash."

Problem solved.