nfhiggs
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Yo
You get better efficiency and the strips run cooler that way.
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T-Time
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Soft driven they are more efficient. They are run at 450-500W so even softer then 0.8375A as it's more then enough for that space.
john073
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Thank you for the information i am looking at getting 12 or 14 of the f series 3500k 8800 lumen strips with the 240w mean well drivers, as i see it, if i have more drivers there is not a single point of failure so if 1 driver fails then not so many strips will be down till i can get a replacement driver.
Will 14 strips be good enough for a 5x5 grow tent?
Thanks
T-Time
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It's best to ask those questions in this thread https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-leds-how-to-power-them.801554/page-190
There are people with much better understanding on those things that will be able to help You as they helped me before.
480W sounds mid/low for that space. It's not how many strips you get, it's how you drive them.
There are people with much better understanding on those things that will be able to help You as they helped me before.
480W sounds mid/low for that space. It's not how many strips you get, it's how you drive them.
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john073
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Thanks i lifted the questions there.Thanks for all the help
john073
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You still do great grows, i can only hope to be so successfull. ThanksNo problemo. Best of luck with that. Sorry I couldn't help more. I'm not an expert myself
kamikaza
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Hey T-Time
i just read your jornal - nice grows, and impresive set up!
i wonder about one thing - why don't you use drip emitters for the coco RTW system?
i used to grow at that method for some time, and i always used it. eazy to regulate the water flow with the digital timers, and if you only use mineral nutes (as you usually do in coco RTW) they are unlikely to get clogged.
https://www.ebay.com/p/50-Netafim-PCjr-Drippers-Button-Emitters-Micro-Drip-Trickle-Pot-Container-Water/684984374?iid=222509393460
I grow in soil now, but i still use drip emitters system for watering.
i just read your jornal - nice grows, and impresive set up!
i wonder about one thing - why don't you use drip emitters for the coco RTW system?
i used to grow at that method for some time, and i always used it. eazy to regulate the water flow with the digital timers, and if you only use mineral nutes (as you usually do in coco RTW) they are unlikely to get clogged.
https://www.ebay.com/p/50-Netafim-PCjr-Drippers-Button-Emitters-Micro-Drip-Trickle-Pot-Container-Water/684984374?iid=222509393460
I grow in soil now, but i still use drip emitters system for watering.
T-Time
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Thanks Guys 
@kamikaza - Can't see any real advantages of those TBH. Not saying there arent any.
I set my system once and it runs for nearly whole grow cycle without me messing with in any other way then adding one or two waterings when they get thirsty. Most of the time it's between 4-6 feed times per day of around ~200-250ml of water each time. Timer is running for only one minute at the time. What it creates is a dry to wet cycle that ladies seams to like.
If I would use drip emitters I would have to run the pump for at ~1h every time with the biggest emitters (4-6gph) to get to that or smaller emitters and run the pump constantly. That creates heat in the tank and wasting energy and I can't see any advantages of the system. Maybe if you have a lot of plants (like You do
). If You would kindly tell me what's so special about them, that would be super
Nice garden BTW
@kamikaza - Can't see any real advantages of those TBH. Not saying there arent any.
I set my system once and it runs for nearly whole grow cycle without me messing with in any other way then adding one or two waterings when they get thirsty. Most of the time it's between 4-6 feed times per day of around ~200-250ml of water each time. Timer is running for only one minute at the time. What it creates is a dry to wet cycle that ladies seams to like.
If I would use drip emitters I would have to run the pump for at ~1h every time with the biggest emitters (4-6gph) to get to that or smaller emitters and run the pump constantly. That creates heat in the tank and wasting energy and I can't see any advantages of the system. Maybe if you have a lot of plants (like You do
). If You would kindly tell me what's so special about them, that would be super Nice garden BTW
kamikaza
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If it's works, great! but i think there are some advantages to drippers.
first - you don't want the water to flow too fast each time you water. if it drips slowly, the water has time to spread all over and around the pot, and there are no 'dry pockets' that may happans if water flow fast from one source, and rush down immidietly
second - you get more control and an even water distribution at all of your pots. as there is more pressure at the begining of the pipe then in the end of it, and in the bottom row then in the upper one.
if using drippers, it's even pressure at all the water exits, and you are avoiding one plants getting much more water then another.
At the scale i grow now, i found it easier in soil. but when i used to grow in coco, (HPS times..) i used 1 or 2 liter per hour drippers, 2 or 4 of them for each pot.
I used to add watering when they get thirsty just like you do, up to 1 watering every 2 hours at 12 hours light on. that's 6 watering per day, of 3-8 minutes each. i aimed at 15% daily run off, and medium moist all the time.
first - you don't want the water to flow too fast each time you water. if it drips slowly, the water has time to spread all over and around the pot, and there are no 'dry pockets' that may happans if water flow fast from one source, and rush down immidietly
second - you get more control and an even water distribution at all of your pots. as there is more pressure at the begining of the pipe then in the end of it, and in the bottom row then in the upper one.
if using drippers, it's even pressure at all the water exits, and you are avoiding one plants getting much more water then another.
At the scale i grow now, i found it easier in soil. but when i used to grow in coco, (HPS times..) i used 1 or 2 liter per hour drippers, 2 or 4 of them for each pot.
I used to add watering when they get thirsty just like you do, up to 1 watering every 2 hours at 12 hours light on. that's 6 watering per day, of 3-8 minutes each. i aimed at 15% daily run off, and medium moist all the time.
T-Time
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Actually those would be great for regulating a flow between few levels. Those might be a fix to the problem I was scratching my head on for a while.
I don't care for the dry pockets as in those 11L dirtpots with coco that's nearly non existent. They're not that expensive I'll get some and see how they perform.
For any clogging problem I'll stick my pump into paint strainer bag. I'm not worried about nutrients itself clogging them up but other particles in the tank, like piece of coir or leave that's somehow got in the tank. It wouldn't clog the pump but might clog drippers.
I don't care for the dry pockets as in those 11L dirtpots with coco that's nearly non existent. They're not that expensive I'll get some and see how they perform.
For any clogging problem I'll stick my pump into paint strainer bag. I'm not worried about nutrients itself clogging them up but other particles in the tank, like piece of coir or leave that's somehow got in the tank. It wouldn't clog the pump but might clog drippers.
T-Time
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Harvest day came a day earlier then expected. I started noticing some bud rot and had to act quickly.
Couple day after boiling roots plants and that's when bud rot started to appear. Not much, maybe lost 10grams if even that.
Harvest was split between two days and took about 10-12h total. Sucks!
Next time I'll be leaving 4-8 branches and have to be more strick about it if I don't want to cut popcorn buds every time 
.
I hanged Critica+ 2.0 and Skunk XL is in container. Don't think there will be much this time, I think I've keep it too dry for too long in week 3-6 and they didn't bulk as much they could. Lesson learned. I've pulled one-way valve that was restricting the flow and will be running pump without it.
Few snaps that I took while harvesting and some already drying and hang from today.
Youngsters are taking it veeeery slow. I think that the trait Critical+ 2.0 has as last time it was the same. Have to up my game with garmination as only 11.5/18 seeds pooped out :/
On the other note, new stuff arrived today
Bacctor and Myccor from TNT , biochar and pressure compensating drippers. There's some changes I'll be making to the tent very soon to improve the whole system.
TBC.....
Couple day after boiling roots plants and that's when bud rot started to appear. Not much, maybe lost 10grams if even that.
Harvest was split between two days and took about 10-12h total. Sucks!
Next time I'll be leaving 4-8 branches and have to be more strick about it if I don't want to cut popcorn buds every time .I hanged Critica+ 2.0 and Skunk XL is in container. Don't think there will be much this time, I think I've keep it too dry for too long in week 3-6 and they didn't bulk as much they could. Lesson learned. I've pulled one-way valve that was restricting the flow and will be running pump without it.
Few snaps that I took while harvesting and some already drying and hang from today.
Youngsters are taking it veeeery slow. I think that the trait Critical+ 2.0 has as last time it was the same. Have to up my game with garmination as only 11.5/18 seeds pooped out :/
On the other note, new stuff arrived today
Bacctor and Myccor from TNT , biochar and pressure compensating drippers. There's some changes I'll be making to the tent very soon to improve the whole system.
TBC.....
Humple
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Another wet-trimmer, I see. We seem to be in the minority!Harvest day came a day earlier then expected. I started noticing some bud rot and had to act quickly.
Couple day after boiling roots plants and that's when bud rot started to appear. Not much, maybe lost 10grams if even that.
Harvest was split between two days and took about 10-12h total. Sucks!
I hanged Critica+ 2.0 and Skunk XL is in container. Don't think there will be much this time, I think I've keep it too dry for too long in week 3-6 and they didn't bulk as much they could. Lesson learned. I've pulled one-way valve that was restricting the flow and will be running pump without it.
Few snaps that I took while harvesting and some already drying and hang from today.
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Youngsters are taking it veeeery slow. I think that the trait Critical+ 2.0 has as last time it was the same. Have to up my game with garmination as only 11.5/18 seeds pooped out :/
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On the other note, new stuff arrived today
Bacctor and Myccor from TNT , biochar and pressure compensating drippers. There's some changes I'll be making to the tent very soon to improve the whole system.
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TBC.....
Humple
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I guess I can't say with certainty what really is more prevalent, but based on comments I see online, it seems to me that dry trimming is more popular. Some folks claim it results in a better end product, but I'm very happy with my wet trimmed bud, and the hassle of dry trimming isn't worth any marginal (and questionable) improvement.
T-Time
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As far I can understand it (not an expert) mycorrhizal fungi help your plant to eat nutrients, transforming them into quicker to digest form. They do have some beneficial in it but only as a supplement. So with mycos , plant can eat faster. You sprinkle the rootzone once transplanting and that's it.
Bennies are for protecting your root zone. They can fix some nitrogen and phosphorus(?) as well. Add those every two weeks and You're golden
Hope I didn't messup anything
Bennies are for protecting your root zone. They can fix some nitrogen and phosphorus(?) as well. Add those every two weeks and You're golden
Hope I didn't messup anything
lukio
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Sup T!
Still looking great in here, man. Another successful crop
Love the tnc stuff, it does seem to settle in rez if it's not circulating and I reckon It could clog up those pressure drippers so keep an eye on it. Im hopefully wrong!
I'm back from my travels next week, remind me to send you a link to a thread that explains using small coco pots and multiple feedings a day. I believe regular small feeding in small pots is better than drowning a large pot because of the more regular air exchange in the root zone.
It's deffo worth a read.
Still looking great in here, man. Another successful crop
Love the tnc stuff, it does seem to settle in rez if it's not circulating and I reckon It could clog up those pressure drippers so keep an eye on it. Im hopefully wrong!
I'm back from my travels next week, remind me to send you a link to a thread that explains using small coco pots and multiple feedings a day. I believe regular small feeding in small pots is better than drowning a large pot because of the more regular air exchange in the root zone.
It's deffo worth a read.
Humple
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Looking forward to seeing what you do with your next round, brother. You're still RiU's best bud-porn photographer, by a mile. Of course it helps that your buds are so damn sexy to begin with!Sup T!
Still looking great in here, man. Another successful crop
Love the tnc stuff, it does seem to settle in rez if it's not circulating and I reckon It could clog up those pressure drippers so keep an eye on it. Im hopefully wrong!
I'm back from my travels next week, remind me to send you a link to a thread that explains using small coco pots and multiple feedings a day. I believe regular small feeding in small pots is better than drowning a large pot because of the more regular air exchange in the root zone.
It's deffo worth a read.
