400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy

mazand1982

Well-Known Member
I have a quick question for all of you 400w users. I am looking to upgrade to a 400 in the future, but the shipping to where I live has been ridiculous on the 400w systems I have looked at so far. I found this earlier but didn't pursue it because I kept looking at grow specific lights. I am beginning to see this as my best option though and am looking for others' opinions on it before making a purchase. Have any of you ever used anything by econolight, and do their systems last? I would likely buy this light http://www.e-conolight.com/e-wpdh40qz.html and purchase a grow specific bulb elsewhere to use in place of the bulb it comes with.

Also, would it be better to purchase both MH and HPS bulbs or just a HPS or CMH bulb? I have grown with CFLs and a 150w HPS before, but am looking to upgrade to a larger light that could cover a couple decent sized plants as well as light for some of my indoor veggies. If this does not seem like a good idea, what would you suggest instead? Heat is not an issue as I can remote the ballast myself and it will be in a decent sized closet (6' x 2.5' x 6' lwh) with good ventilation.

kawizzr ur best bet hands down for the upgrade you are talking about in my opinion is going with htgsupply.com...they offer a plethora of items at a bottom line price with good quality...i personally purchased the 400 watt hps system that comes with ballast,hood, and bulb for like $120....i also got the MH conversion bulb that goes into the s51 HPS ballast. ive been vegging with the MH conversion bulb and flowering with the HPS, great company, great prices and it was delivered in 3 days...i dunno about the econolite but i DO know htg is a fully accredited company that anyone on here will validate as a solid company...good luck
 

Illumination

New Member
kawizzr ur best bet hands down for the upgrade you are talking about in my opinion is going with htgsupply.com...they offer a plethora of items at a bottom line price with good quality...i personally purchased the 400 watt hps system that comes with ballast,hood, and bulb for like $120....i also got the MH conversion bulb that goes into the s51 HPS ballast. ive been vegging with the MH conversion bulb and flowering with the HPS, great company, great prices and it was delivered in 3 days...i dunno about the econolite but i DO know htg is a fully accredited company that anyone on here will validate as a solid company...good luck

That is my setup as well and I run a cmh bulb in it with great results.... HTG awesome prices good products and customer service second to none...will make sure you are pleased...call them with a large enough purchase and they usually knock off additional $$'s .... am a very pleased htg customer

Namaste':leaf:
 

KawiZZR

Active Member
kawizzr ur best bet hands down for the upgrade you are talking about in my opinion is going with htgsupply.com...they offer a plethora of items at a bottom line price with good quality...i personally purchased the 400 watt hps system that comes with ballast,hood, and bulb for like $120....i also got the MH conversion bulb that goes into the s51 HPS ballast. ive been vegging with the MH conversion bulb and flowering with the HPS, great company, great prices and it was delivered in 3 days...i dunno about the econolite but i DO know htg is a fully accredited company that anyone on here will validate as a solid company...good luck
Thanks mazand and illumination, I have heard good things about htgsupply but hadn't gone through and checked what the end price would be for one of their systems as other sites with similar ones wanted an extra hundred plus for shipping. I just checked a couple of minutes ago though and shipping from them is only around 20 bucks. Why on earth would other sites try to charge five times that for shipping? I'm glad I looked back at their site and I will probably be ordering from them in the next couple weeks. Of the many upgrades they have available, are any of them extremely worthwhile? The only thing I can think of is I'll probably order an extra bulb of each type with it. Also would you recommend the MH/HPS combo or the CMH setup? The CMH one is only 15 bucks more and supposed to be better, but I've heard mixed reviews of them in comparison to the traditional MH/HPS route.
 

Illumination

New Member
I have a quick question for all of you 400w users. I am looking to upgrade to a 400 in the future, but the shipping to where I live has been ridiculous on the 400w systems I have looked at so far. I found this earlier but didn't pursue it because I kept looking at grow specific lights. I am beginning to see this as my best option though and am looking for others' opinions on it before making a purchase. Have any of you ever used anything by econolight, and do their systems last? I would likely buy this light http://www.e-conolight.com/e-wpdh40qz.html and purchase a grow specific bulb elsewhere to use in place of the bulb it comes with.

Also, would it be better to purchase both MH and HPS bulbs or just a HPS or CMH bulb? I have grown with CFLs and a 150w HPS before, but am looking to upgrade to a larger light that could cover a couple decent sized plants as well as light for some of my indoor veggies. If this does not seem like a good idea, what would you suggest instead? Heat is not an issue as I can remote the ballast myself and it will be in a decent sized closet (6' x 2.5' x 6' lwh) with good ventilation.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTGSupply-400-Watt-Ceramic-Metal-Halide-Grow-Light.asp
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I found this old Sun Valley Sperti, I think it was made for an old tanning light. Has anybody seen one of these? Can I use it for growing? It is 425 watts I don't know what kind of bulb it is though?
Im pretty sure thats a tungsten halogen light, and if it is, it's completely the wrong spectrum for growing and produces a lot of heat. Sorry
 

mazand1982

Well-Known Member
Thanks mazand and illumination, I have heard good things about htgsupply but hadn't gone through and checked what the end price would be for one of their systems as other sites with similar ones wanted an extra hundred plus for shipping. I just checked a couple of minutes ago though and shipping from them is only around 20 bucks. Why on earth would other sites try to charge five times that for shipping? I'm glad I looked back at their site and I will probably be ordering from them in the next couple weeks. Of the many upgrades they have available, are any of them extremely worthwhile? The only thing I can think of is I'll probably order an extra bulb of each type with it. Also would you recommend the MH/HPS combo or the CMH setup? The CMH one is only 15 bucks more and supposed to be better, but I've heard mixed reviews of them in comparison to the traditional MH/HPS route.

kawizz, i went with the hps watt ballast, i got the cmh bulb by itself and i think it gives off 38,000 lumens which is pretty high (or maybe even more than traditional and its dirt cheap)...the one thing u wanna take into consideration is that the hood it comes with gets hot in a small space unless u cool it, or purchase the cool tube option...just get the hps ballst and conversiion mh bulb id say but whatever u like...maybe small upgrade on the bulb
 

mazand1982

Well-Known Member
2 and 6 weeks in.
Just started my flush on the 6 weekers.

kish,looking good.... the ones on the right were only 12/12 for a total of 6 weeks??how tall are those in perspective? they look huge,m lol...mine are at 3 weeks flower and they barely have the little afro of white hairs...
 

kish101

Member
kish,looking good.... the ones on the right were only 12/12 for a total of 6 weeks??how tall are those in perspective? they look huge,m lol...mine are at 3 weeks flower and they barely have the little afro of white hairs...
Thanks man.
I let them veg for about 5 weeks before i put them under 12/12 and i usually start seeing hairs with in 5 days.
The one on your front right is my Shishkaberry and she is at 2'3'' tall.
The one in the middle back is my Jack Herer(green house seeds) shes at 2'
and the one in the middle front is my Stellar (which is my cross (Shishkaberry x Super X(fucking incredible x atomic haze)) shes at 2' as well.
 

odlaw

Active Member
ive had the ice kush going for 3 rounds now i luv it
im getting a ww clone ready at moment to be a mother bonsai and im gunna try grafting the ice kush, cream caramel(just popped ) and a few other strains as i get em to it
 

kish101

Member
ive had the ice kush going for 3 rounds now i luv it
im getting a ww clone ready at moment to be a mother bonsai and im gunna try grafting the ice kush, cream caramel(just popped ) and a few other strains as i get em to it
Do you have any pictures of the finished product, hows the high
Grafting, I've heard of that, how abouts you do something like that
 

convict156326

Active Member
hey im back for round 2. although i hopefully will have to go to another club mid way, as i am possibly getting my buddies 400 hps soon.
have 9 cred sprouted, 5 jackie-o sprouted. starting more seeds this week, going to be sending at least 20 plants into sexing. so that i can throw away to get down to the legal limit. have a friend who also has his card going to post his liscence on my wall as his grower. but just untill sexing cause he will need it for himself.

would put up pics but they are just pics of seedlings with cotlyden leaves still
got around 30 grams dried from the cred strain, not alot, but got it fast. and even after smoking other herb, when i spark that bowl late at night, and think. damn... i grew this.. i swear ti just puts all the other buzz down and brings me to a whole new level of calm, and relaxation.
bah. im stoned and i ramble when i type.

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KawiZZR

Active Member
kawizz, i went with the hps watt ballast, i got the cmh bulb by itself and i think it gives off 38,000 lumens which is pretty high (or maybe even more than traditional and its dirt cheap)...the one thing u wanna take into consideration is that the hood it comes with gets hot in a small space unless u cool it, or purchase the cool tube option...just get the hps ballst and conversiion mh bulb id say but whatever u like...maybe small upgrade on the bulb
Think I'm going to just get the HPS and maybe a spare bulb. How is the socket that comes with it? I can't tell from the pictures on their site but it looks like it wouldn't be too hard to hang naked, might help keep temps down a bit that way. How close can you get plants if you use the hood it comes with? Also, how far do you get good penetration from it? Sorry for all the questions, just want to avoid as many potential problems as possible when move up from the 150.
 
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